religion, that the state should not be sanctioning this and they perceive themselves as losers in this. they perceive themselves as people who have voted as they did -- the majority of people did in california against gay marriage and they've now had it imposed on them by the courts. so on the loser's side of it, those people are going to classify themselves clearly as losers. all right. let's move on to another hot topic of the year. the nsa leak. paul, who do you think the winner was in the nsa leak? >> well, that's a great question because, you know, snowden, who has been vilified widely because he stole so much intelligence information from the united states will claim vindication here because here's this federal court decision that came obviously, seemed to indicate that he had released and exposed a very, very dangerous level of surveillance by the u.s. government. on the other hand, the nsa
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