russia. what does it tell you? >> it's worrisome. very much so. ms. yovanovitch is a career diplomat. a career employee. bob livingston, former member of the house was also lobbying for her removal. it was clearly a political effort to stop her for reasons i can't even explain. and i would say to mr. sullivan and others, before you remove a professional diplomat who served this country under presidents of both political parties, there should be cause. in this case, there never was. >> given that ambassador sullivan there, deputy secretary sullivan basically said that if the president did it, it would be wrong, i find it interesting what some republicans, including republican senators are starting to say. i want to take the case of rob portman from ohio who says it's not appropriate for a president to engage a foreign government in an investigation of a political opponent. so he's saying he doesn't think what the president did is right.

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