this sort of old school stove and chimney to let the world know what has happened. it's ripe with symbolism. >> one of the things that makes such great theater, carol. >> what confused us, when the smoke started coming out of the chimney, we're thinking what color is it. it looks graeish, and it grgrew -- darker. we were confused. >> look, it's part of the -- again, we use theater, the great sense of drama pointiancy. that's what it's all about. that's what ritual is about. and last night they overwhelmed us, the boom of smoke. no question about it. we were trying to figure out how they created so much smoke. this morning, a tough read. a little reticent. had to step in the fray there. >> declare it black. >> had to go forward. >> eight years ago, when we finally got the white smoke, we