>> that's what i want to see. the american media said many times that russia was not hitting the isil or so-called islamic state but that it was hitting the moderates. then why would isil get angry if it didn't receive any -- >> because you're supporting president assad who's their enemy. >> well, i mean, these people on the plane, they were innocent. so planting a bomb on a plane is a crime by any standard. >> absolutely. agree 100% with you. but that's how terrorism works. >> and that's for the claims by the isil, i would not give too much credence to these claims. because it just shows how evil they are, you know? they are ready to take responsibility for a horrible crime, even if they didn't commit it. the fact that they pronounce