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the dossier. and special counsel robert mueller's investigation reaching even deeper into the white house and closer to the top. senior adviser stephen miller becoming the highest ranking active staff to talk to the special counsel's team. we begin, though, with the president's former body man and bodyguard, keith schiller, and what he said to the house intelligence committee. cnn as manu raju has that. what have you learned about what shirley said about this apparent offer of bem in russia. >> he testified that he thought this offer from russia to send five women up to trump's hotel room back on a 2013 trip was a joke. he said it occurred around lunchtime and when he walked then private citizen trump up to his hotel room later that night and mentioned it to him he said trump laughed it off. he said he stayed there for several minutes after trump went into his hotel room and then he left. he didn't know what happened after that. now, shurl said he dunt know who the russian was who made that offer but said it was someone in a group that was at a meeting with trump. ago alar of is a russian pop star who is close to putin. he helped set up that meeting with donald trump jr. at trump tower. a lawyer told me tonight that his client had no knowledge of the offer for -- to send up these women to his hotel room but lawmakers asked this because they wanted to know if russians had any dirt on trump as alleged this that steele dossierment while some of those allegations in the dossier have been corroborated, some of some of the most salacious ones about trump's trip to moscow have not yet, anderson. >> what else did schiller have to say in testimony. >> he was pressed for hours behind closed doors about a wide range of issues, trump russia connections, about advisers meeting with russians. and he really claimed that he did not know much since he was in charge of security at the time. he was not involved with policy matters. plus he was asked repeatedly about what he knew about the firing of fbi director james comey. remember, it was him, anderson, who delivered the letter about the firing to the fbi. he said he was not involved in those deliberations. and i can tell you, anderson, some lawmakers left pretty frustrated, wishing they learned more about exactly what happened. >> appreciate that. now a cnn exclusive. another milestone in the russia investigation. robert mueller's team have reached into the president's current inner circle. pam brown joins us now with who is talking and why it may be significant. what have you learned? >> we've learned that the white house senior policy aide stephen miller has now been interviewed as part of robert mueller's special counsel probe. so this brings the probe really into president trump's inner circle at the white house because miller is the highest level aide, that we know of, who has been interviewed by mueller's team. and he's been there by trump's side from the campaign days up until now, and he really has a front row seat to trump's thinking. so, of course, mueller's team wants to talk to him. and he was also there during the firing of james comey during that decision-making. and so as we know, anderson, that specifically is part of the possible obstruction of justice probe. >> there's also, inld, investigators are also looking into the meeting where george papadopoulos said kd arrange a meeting between trump and putin. >> that's right. so there was this meeting back in march of 2016, a national security meeting with george papadopoulos, that volunteer for the campaign who recently was charged with lying to the fbi in the russia probe, said that he could set up a meeting between vladimir putin of russia and donald trump. and we're told that stephen miller was there at that meeting and that robert mueller wants to talk to anyone who was at the meeting to learn more about what happened there. so it's believed that that was also part of this interview as well, along with the comey firing. because as we know, anderson, stephen miller drafted that initial memo during a weekend in bedminster just before the announcement was made giving the explanation for firing james comey which sources tell us was actually very similar to rod rosenstein's memo which was actually cited as the reason for firing comey. that has been handed over to the special counsel's office. but all of this, there's really an array of issues that we're told that came up during this sbeer view with stephen miller, anderson. >> appreciate the details am to say there's plenty to talk about with the panel would be an understatement. the president's confident, a long time bodyguard testifying about the most slowsive allegation, the trump dossier. steve, this offer of -- alleged offer of the women to then citizen trump, would you be more surprised if the russians hadn't tried to do something like this? >> yeah, frankly, anderson, i definitely would have been more surprised. this is standard operating procedure for the russians. you have to remember in 2013 this is before obviously trump was a candidate. but nevertheless, he was what the russians i think would have considered an american oligarch, so somebody from their own world view somebody with money, somebody with power and somebody who you just never know one day what they're going to end up being. that normally triggers the very low threshold for the fsb, which is is the internal russian intelligence service for the beginning of collecting all sorts of information, anything they can get their hands on or set up that could be used in a compromising situation in the future. so this would have been done -- if it hadn't been donald trump, i don't know how many senior american millionaires, billionaires came through moscow at that time, but they all would have had this type of collection. and it's very aggressive and it's very assertive. and the fsb has been doing it since lesson in's time. they're just very good at it and they just would have done it as a routine thing. >> what do you make of keith schiller admitted to as much? >> i think to be fair this is exculpatory towards donald trump. the argument here -- i mean, the dossier said that there was this sorted sexual encounter between donald trump and people sent by russian intelligence. schiller says no, didn't happen. didn't see it. didn't see anything like it. he said that there was this offer. but based on what's publicly available, schiller is the only version we have, and his version is it didn't happen. and in the absence of proof to the contrary, i think that's what the state of the evidence is. >> and also, jeff, we should point out schiller said that he actually stood outside donald trump's door after he walked then mr. trump up to his room. he stood outside his door for a certain amount of time and then ended up going, the idea being that if somebody had come immediately afterward, he would hve known. >> that's right. and, you know, much in the schiller -- much mountain dossier has been proven true, but this is something, this very inflammatory accusation, has not been proven true. and to the extent schiller knows or is believed, it's been proven untrue and that's an important part of the story. >> what if anything do you think this says about the dossier itself? because to jeff's point, some has been proven to, the meetings but obviously the most salacious stuff, no evidence at this point. >> look at the couple of the pieces of the puds elwe have. the interview with donald junior about the reasons for his meeting with that russian lawyer and we learned that his initial explanation was incorrect. the fact that the national security adviser for the incoming president lied to the vice president about his conversations with the russians about sanctions. now contacts with the russians from the president going back to 2013. my point, anderson, is we don't know a lot about the dossier. what we do know is we have just snippets, three or four snapshots of the relationship between trump people and the russians going back four or five years. the trump -- the mueller team is going to have 50,000 more pieces, like the financial records that implicated manafort. i think we're seeing the bits and pieces that have led the mueller team to say this is a significant slefgs, but we're seeing maybe 1% of what's going on here, around son. >> so whether the allegations are true or not, you say it's connecting the dots on the relationship that were forged during this time that you would be most interested in. >> that's right. for example, one simple question you would have is the relationships developed during this exchange going back to 2013. were any of those relationships continued over the years and were any of those the kinds much people who might have contacted the trump campaign about information related to hillary clinton. the complexity here and jeffrey toobin knows this better than i but the complexity as an analyst in these cases is you're dealing with dozens of interviews, foep calls, e-mails. some of those interviews will have discrepancies. people either leave stuff out or they lie. you've got to overlay that over four, five, six, seven years. that is a really complex timeline and we're just seeing the kinds of bits that the mueller team has to places on that timeline to determine what happened. >> steve, during the days of the kr gb, the soviet union, rooms were bugged. would that still be the case for somebody like a high profile person like donald trump in moscow in 2013? >> oh,a you. absolutely. i mean, anderson, the technology has only gotten better, just like the internet and everything else technological related has and the basic skill set they have to have that is absolutely there and they train it. the resource they put towards this are incredible. but to phil's point, if i could. the points of information that we're beginning to see as we pull this whole picture together are indeed critical. and phil rightly points out that's an important piece of this. but i would hafb to add that because we still have the salacious part of the steele dossier unconfirmed, and by the way, i'm not sure how long schiller stood outside the door. we don't know what happened the rest of the evening. >> right. >> nothing may have happened. but the bottom line is that you have to remember the steele dossier is a bunch of stand alone, raw intelligence reports. it is not one tomorrow that, you know, must be read in its entirety and believed or rejected in its entirety. there's a bunch of individual reports in there, many of which have indeed started to look more and more true. so you need to look, i think, at each individual report there and weigh it on its individual merit because it all comes from individual intelligence sources that basically mr. steele managed to steel outside and get outside of russia to contribute to this report. so it's not a monolithic thing. parts of it might turn out to be true. parts of it might also not turn out to be true. you can't discount one for the other. >> to pam's reporting on stephen miller and this draft letter that he wrote. you said all along this was problematic for the white house. >> absolutely because, you know, the core of the accusation, to the extent there is an accusation, for obstruction of justice, is that the argument made public that the reason donald trump fired james comey was because he feels too mean to hillary clinton, that argument, the accusation goes, was bogus, was want true. the real reason he was fired is because he was getting too close to the president on the russia investigation. and miller is a central figure in creating the public explanation for why comey was fired. so it's extremely important to determine how that public explanation was put together and whether there is a basis to challenge that or whether it really is does seem like it was the real reason why comey was fired. but, you know, just because miller has been interviewed once doesn't mean he's not going to be interviewed again. i mean, these are complicated questions, and these are meticulous investigators. so we pay a lot of intention, as we should, when an important person is interviewed, but that doesn't mean that they are -- miller given how important he is, i would imagine will be back for further interviews. >> thank you all. appreciate it. coming up next, two other big breaking stories. u.s. senate candidate roir moore, staunch defender of the ten commandments, now allegedly a child molester. details and reaction on capitol hill in a moment. whoooo. i enjoy the fresher things in life. fresh towels. fresh soaps. and of course, tripadvisor's freshest, lowest... ...prices. so if you're anything like me... ...you'll want to check tripadvisor. we now instantly compare prices... ...from over 200 booking sites... ...to find you the lowest price... ...on the hotel you want. go on, try something fresh. tripadvisor. the latest reviews. the lowest prices. if you have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's, and your symptoms have left you with the same view, it may be time for a different perspective. if other treatments haven't worked well enough, ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio works by focusing right in the gi-tract to help control damaging inflammation and is clinically proven to begin helping many patients achieve both symptom relief as well as remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. while not reported with entyvio, pml, a rare, serious brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections, or have flu-like symptoms, or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. there's breaking news tonight. repercussions on many fronts up to and including control of the united states senate. roir moore the republican candidate from alabama denying allegations that he initiated a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl that he first approached outside of a courtroom in 1979. cnn's martin savage is in gad den alabama. he joins us now. matter? >> reporter: you know, anderson, if this is true, if these allegations are true, they're truly shocking for a number of reasons. number one, because, of course, roir moore is involved in a very high profile senate rags. we're just weeks away from the ballot there. roy moore for a long time has wrapped himself strongly saying that he believes deeply in conservative and christian values which if these stories are true would call that all into question and this is the courthouse where it all allegedly began. leigh corfman says she was 14 years old when she first met roir moore. it was 179 want. he was 32 years old at the time. corfman was at the courthouse with her mother nancy for a custody hearing. even now 38 years later both women remember moore introducing himself and offering to sit with lee while nancy attended a hearing. they told their story to the "washington post." >> the momma said thank you very much for looking after my little girl and left them alone. >> corfman told the post moore made plans to see her a few days after the hearing. >> he picked her up around the corner from her house, took her to his house, which is in a very wood i, rural area about 30 minutes away. took her into the house. at least twice that occurred. and gave her alcohol and on one of the occasions, you know, undressed her, undressed himself and, you know, touched her over her bra and underwear and guided her to touch him over his underwear. >> remember, corfman was 14 years old at the time. she said she was uncomfortable after that incident and asked moore to take her home. she never reported his behavior to the police. but she's not the only one with a story about roir moore. wendy miller told the "washington post" when she was 14 moore approached her at the mall and told her she was pretty. two years later he allegedly started asking her out, but she said no. debbie gibson told the post she was 17 when she met moore. she went out for a few dates and gibson says they only kissed, nothing more. glory is she was 18 when she met moore. she says they dated on and off for a few months and that moor would buy her alcohol even though she was under aiming. she also says they only hugged and kissed. all four women tell the "washington post" they were initially flaertd by his attention, but as they grew older and moore's prominence in alabama rose, they found his behavior troubling. >> they see he's running for such a high office, u.s. senate. they also feel that it's hypocritical of him to be, you know, saying things like homosexuality should be illegal when in their experience he was, you know, looking for teenagers to date at the mall when he was in his 30s. >> moore calls the post story, quote, completely false and a desperate political attack. his campaign has called the story fake news and points the paper has endorsed moore's opponent. but the "washington post" stands by its reporting. and leigh corfman told the post she has no political agenda and has voted republican in the past three presidential elections. >> a "washington post" reporter was in alabama doing some reporting on roy moore's supporters when these rumors were emerging that he had had relationships with teenage girls. two of us spent weeks in alabama pursuing these leads that we got, and as we say in the story, none of the women were eager to go public. they were all off the record when we first spoke to them and it took multiple interviews before they agreed to speak publicly because in the end they felt like they needed to do it. >> martin, i mean, roy moore certainly is not backing down from these allegations. he has some new tweets tonight. what did he say? >> no. in fact, let me just read to you some of what he's been putting out the. the obama clinton media lab dogs have just launched the most vicious and nasty round of attacks against me identify ever faced. we have the duty to fight back against the forces of evil. then one more our children and grandchildren's futures are on the line. so rest assured, i will never give up, never give up in all caps, the fight. i covered roy moore for a long time. this is very typical from him. but when you talk to supporters, they say, look, here is a man who has espoused so much his clis an faith. if these accusations are true, they say, as a christian, he needs to admit that regardless what the political implications may be. anderson. >> the age of consent in alabama is i believe 16, is that right? >> right. yeah. what's troubling here is, of course, he's having a relationship with what appears to be a sexually tinged relationship with a 14-year-old. but then on top of that there seems to be a pattern that he was drawn at least for some time as a prominent person in the community to very young teen age girls, much longer than he was. >> appreciate it. leigh corfman has just responded. a member of her family oirk the following statement. i've learned in all my years not to get into a shouting match with someone like moore. president trump has to weigh in. the day after moore won the primary, quote, spoke to roy moore of alabama last night for the first time. sounds like a really great guy who ran a fantastic race. it's important to note when the president hit send roy moore was already a national figure. to his critics he's a purveyor of intolerance. more now from our randi kaye. >> i believe in the second amendment. >> former alabama judge roy moore, bold enough to display his gun at a political rally. just this year the former chief justice of alabama, who quotes the bible about his often as he does the constitution, suggested that the september 11th terrorist attacks may have occurred because god was upset at the united states' lack of morality. >> we distance ours from the one that asked us in his hands to -- >> beside the bible he likes to quote his own poet tri. >> oh sweet land of liberty your house is on the sand. >> a decade earlier in 2005 during an interview on c-span, moore said homosexuality should be illegal, comparing it to bestiality. >> just because it's done behind closed doors, it can still be prohibited by state law. do you know that bestiality, the relationship between man and beast, is prohibited in every state? >> years ago moore earned the nickname the ten commandments judge for yet another controversy. in 2003 during his tenure as chief justice of alabama, a federal judge ordered moore to remove a monument to the ten commandments he had installed at the supreme court of alabama. moore refused and was later removed from office. he was elected to the befrmg again in 2013, only to be suspended in 2016 for ordering judges to defy federal orders and not issue marriage licenses to same sex couples. more himself once denied a woman in a less beyon relationship custody of her three teenagers, referring to her private behavior as an inherent evil. >> now the man who promises to restore virtue and morality to this country is having both of those very things of his questioned. randi kaye, cnn new york. >> well, when we come back, how congressional republicans are responding to the bombshell allegations against roy moore. crohn's disease. you're more than just a bathroom disease. you're a life of unpredictable symptoms. crohn's, you've tried to own us. but now it's our turn to take control with stelara® stelara® works differently for adults with moderately to severely active crohn's disease. studies showed relief and remission, with dosing every 8 weeks. stelara® may lower the ability of your immune system to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. some serious infections require hospitalization. before treatment, get tested for tuberculosis. before or during treatment, always tell your doctor if you think you have an infection or have flu-like symptoms or sores, have had cancer, or develop any new skin growths, or if anyone in your house needs or recently had a vaccine. alert your doctor of new or worsening problems, including headaches, seizures, confusion, and vision problems. these may be signs of a rare, potentially fatal brain condition. some serious allergic reactions can occur. do not take stelara® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. we're fed up with your unpredictability. remission can start with stelara®. talk to your doctor today. janssen wants to help you explore cost support options for stelara®. the roy moore news probing tonight. senate republicans were attempting to focus on their tax plan. here is a look at the kind of uncomfortable moment. >> leader mcconnell, on the record accusations against roy moore, sir? >> senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and other gop republicans did say that moore should step aside if the allegations are true. what else are republicans saying about these allegations? >> well, arn son, republicans up here on capitol hill really pep period with questions very quickly about roadway moore, called this deeply disturbing and horrifying and like you said the majority of republicans that we spoke to today had the same course, that he should step aside if these allegations hold up. including we're hearing that tonight from senator ted cruz, important because he is one of the very few republican senators who actually endorsed moore. senator cruz tonight said, quote, these are serious and troubling allegations. if they are true judge moore should immediately withdraw. however, we need to know the truth and judge moore has the right to respond to these allegations. john mccain said we don't need -- are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. mccain saying in a statement he should immediately step aside and allow the people of alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of. in the meantime we also heard from the number two senate republican judge john thune today and he said, look, we're basically looking into the laws, what the laws on the books allow for in alabama when it comes to replacing a candidate, but of course, this is as judge moore is digging in tonight. >> roy moore has obviously been posing difficulties for members of congress particularly since he won his primary back in september. >> he has. he certainly has not been embraced by those establishment republicans up here on the hill. they have literally been running away from questions for months about what they think about his more controversial past. and certainly these allegations do not add anything else for them. one other thing for them to have to respond to. he was up on capitol hill in the last few weeks launching something of a term offensive. meeting with senate republicans. he appeared at their republican caucus luncheon in the past few weeks and he told republicans in the room i think i can win. these are the very establishment republicans that he really has run his candidacy against. i talked with one republican out of that meeting, a senator, and he said i asked him twice what do you think of roy moore? will you be in support of him now given that he is the nominee in this race. twice the senator said i don't know him. i need to know him better. so that was a big nonanswer. >> all right. appreciate that. joining me now dana bash, david gur gon and scott jennings. what happens now? roy moore is obviously defiant saying he will absolutely not step aside. can he be replaced by republicans? >> the alabama republican party can remove him from being a candidate. he can't be removed from the ballot at this point. the absentee battle have already gone out and, you know, sort of that is set in stone. if the alabama republican party decides to remove him, then that would mean that if anybody does actually check the box for him, then it wouldn't be counted. but it's really unclear at this point if that's going to happen, particularly because, as you mentioned, roy moore is so incredibly defiant. i think you have to remember that you mentioned this and you showed that very, very awkward moment of the senate majority leader being asked about this. roy moore being told by mitch mcconnell or pretty much anybody else in washington we don't want you to come here, if this is true, means nothing, because they didn't want him to come here in the first place. and it was controversial, as someone was just talking, even after he won the republican primary. so him being defiant is just kind of par for the course no matter what the allegations. >> david, the calls for moore to step aside by a number of republicans came with the same caveat, if it's true. the allegations, they all happened 35 to 40 years allege, so this will likely end up being their word against his. are republicans playing both sides? >> absolutely. anderson, this is becoming a nightmare for republicans, especially if it drags on. there's no way he can prove his innocence. there's probably no way the "washington post" or the women can prove his guilt. and so it's a he said she said kind of situation. but it does mean that if he continues to stand, the chances of the democrats picking up that seat go up considerably. and what would that mean? this vote is december 12th. the person who wins is then sworn into the senate quickly. you could have a new democratic senator in the midst of a tax battle when the republicans need every vote they've got. they could lose a crucial vote. and if moor stays in there, it's going to really hurt the republican brand across the country. maybe not in alabama, but across the country. the best thing that could happen from a republican standpoint is for steve bannon, steve bannon of all people, to stand up and say this is important for the party. we believe you, roy, but for the good of the party -- >> it's not going to happen. >> i'm stepping aside. >> not going to happen. >> scott, do you agree with that? >> it may not, but let me tell you one other thing. there is somebody waiting in the wipgs, you know, who might be willing to run if they work it out. and that's jeff sessions. maybe he'd like to get out of the justice department and go back where he was really comfortable. >> wouldn't that be a twist? >> i totally agree with mr. gur again. i think this is a lot about steve bannon. i mean, look, he right now is making the argument to donald trump, his former boss and to the republican party that he and he alone should be able to vet and choose the republican nominees to the united states senate in 2018. this was his first project and it has tonight blown up on the republican party. so what he does tonight to me is going to tell us a lot about how the republicans are going to deal with this. i agree with mitch mcconnell. i agree with chairwoman ron that mcdaniel at the rnc that he should step aside if these alleges have even a shred of truth to them. as mr. gergen said, no one is going to be able to prove it one way r on the other. but for the republican party i would encourage everyone not to look at this true the tribalism. look at it through the question that joanna gold berg asked tonight in the national review. it worth saving a candidacy like roadway moore's over fighting an issue like this? no. is fighting it out over this candidacy worth sacrificing my agenda? we need a republican in the united states senate, someone who can win, and that's the question in this race and all the races in 2018. donald trump has to have a republican conservative senate to enact policies. roy moore puts that in jeopardy. it's not worth saving. >> isn't it very possible that, i mean, clearly roy moore is trying to rally this as this is liberal media or the obama clinton nexus trying to bring him down. democrats trying to bring him down, liberals trying to bring him down and i guess the media trying to bring him down. is it possible this will rally his supporters and make them more fervent in bringing out the vote? >> that's a really good point. the answer is maybe, but when you're talking about -- if it were the primary, again, and if we hadn't had the primary vote, then it was republican versus republican, the answer may have been yes. and although you don't really see a lot of democrats coming out of alabama in the last 20 plus years, this is a general election, and i think it could just have the opposite effect to ally democrats who don't actually vote or republicans who don't luke this fwie to vote against him. the other thing i just want to say is my signals tonight from bannon world is don't hold your breath that he is going to say, you know what? for the good of the party i think that roy moore should back down. it's slightly different but the same kind of atmosphere iks. he was the guy and the only guys in trump tower the night the "access hollywood" tape came out who said fight fight fight fight fight fight. when a lot of people people said you know what? this is terrible for the party, terrible for the country. you're going to lose. back out. >> david, i mean, you know, one thing that struck necessity is just how quickly senate republicans came out and condemned more today. what does that tell you about where their collective heads are at? >> well, that's an interesting question because i think a couple of things influenced the rapidity with which they responded. one was tuesday night and the election results and them recognizing they've got to appeal more to the middle in order to hold the house and the senate. but secondly this wave upon wave of accusations against men who have been toppled from very powerful positions i think has created a sense that all these guys do it. and so i think he starts out, roy moore starts out with people almost automatically imagine lg oh, yes, i bet he did that and that's what i think put the pressure on the republicans to move. i think they recognized that the context has changed a lot. >> yeah. >> i would just say we live as a republican party through candidate's like this in 2010 and 2012 but tonight we're well beyond someone claiming they're a witch like christine o'donnell did or even to do a ken or some of the other candidates that came along and failed. we're well beyond that. tribalism cannot prevail. if you want a majority in enacting the president's agenda, you have to have candidates that win. candidates that have these problems are not going to win and it's bad for the overall prospect of the president being able to enact an agenda. that's where republicans have to be. >> scott, appreciate it. david ger den, dana bash as well. up next sh the neighbor accused of assaulting senator rand paul and given him broken ribs goes to court. the mystery deep enz. was it really just about lawn clippings? 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>> anderson, renee bu say, senator paul's neighbor of 17 years, was arraigned. he appeared before a judge. he pled not guilty and was given a pretrial date about a month out from now. but there's no doubt he did this, that he actually attacked senator rand paul while rand paul was mowing his lawn, that he broke six of his ribs and caused all of this pain. through his attorney he says he's very remorseful out of this and said it stems from a minor dispute between two neighborhoods who have this long-standing feud over their shared lawn, as simple as that sounds. >> what is the senator saying about this? >> you know, that's what's kind of odd. the senator is not saying much. he's convalescing at home. he's tweeting about his condition. but he's also retweeting a couple of conservative news articles that raise the specter that this was some kind of a political attack by his democratic neighbor on him, and he's pushing back through his spokesman the idea that this has anything to do with a long-standing dispute between neighbors. in fact, his spokesperson put out this statement today, anderson. it says as to reports of a long-standing dispute with the attacker, the pawls have had no conversations with him in many years. the first conversation with the attacker came after senator paul's ribs were broken. that was not a fight. it was a blind side, violent attack by a disturbed person. these guys have lived next to each other for 17 years. they haven't, apparently, talked in a long time. many, many years. i read part of that statement to renee bu say's attorney, matt baker and this is what he had to say about what happened. >> this has absolutely nothing to do with any politics. they had not spoken to each other in years, but i still think that you can have a -- i'm certain that you can have a personal dispute without having spoken. >> neither side is willing to say what exactly this was about or what the dispute was. will you? will you tell us this was over a lawn care item or how lawns were taken care of? >> that's basically it. it has to do with the maintenance of each other's property and the disagreement that two neighbors -- two adjoining neighbors have had over that. >> it sounds like a simple matter, but it's a very serious situation based on the injuries. the charges could actually be elevated, anderson. >> it certainly seems like there are some still some pretty sizeable pieces of the puzzle of what actually happened missing here. >> thatere's a lot of strange things. they've lived next to each other now for suspect years. by paul's own account they haven't spoken in many many years. that seems rather odd. we know that the capitol hill police came to bowling green, kentucky. they interviewed mr. bu say about this. they are trying to determine if there was a political motivation involved. the fbi is also asking about this. so we are just waiting to see what kind of investigation will come forward from the feds. but right now this remains a local criminal misdemeanor matter in the state of kentucky. anderson. >> drew griffin. thanks. when we come back, breaking news. more allegations of sexual misconduct. this time the focus is on comedian louie ck. we'll hear from "the new york times" reporters who broke that story next. alright, off you go. casual fridays at buckingham palace? 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>> let me think about it. >> i love you. >> i love you, too. >> even in the best of times, "i love you daddy" might be controversial. the movie about a divorced man -- >> is that your girlfriend? >> no, that's my daughter. >> who's teenage daughter starts dating a much old er film director. >> isn't that weird? >> it's not that weird. he likes young girls. >> yes, he does. >> china. >> but now, the premier and a promotional appearance on "the late show" have been canceled after a new york times report that the film's star and director exposed and fondled himself in front of women in several incidents. >> you know, sexual perversion is a problem. you can't stop it. people got to do what they got to do. >> reporter: it's the kind of behavior louis c.k. frequently jokes about in his standup act. >> i'm getting kind of a rape-y vibe from this girl. do you think i'm going to rape you in the off chance that hopefulful hopefulfully you're into that [bleep]? >> reporter: indeed, the comedian has built a tv show, an army of fans and a reputation as a comedy ground breaker with his coarse talk about sensitive matters. >> china is a minor. >> reporter: but the accuser's names are saying his jokes about sexual misconduct aren't just fiction. in numerous instances, they say they were invited to private places, such as hotel rooms, where he stripped off and masturbated in front of them. then they say they felt pressured to keep quiet. and act like nothing was wrong. >> i mean, everybody's a pervert. i'm a pervert. everybody's a pervert, who cares. >> reporter: cnn has not independently confirmed any of these allegations. we have reached out to louis c.k. for any comment. we have heard nothing yet, and his publicist told "the new york times" the comedian will not answer any questions. anderson? >> tom, thanks. joining me now, the two "new york times" reporters who broke the story. along with jody canter. me lee na, the two female comedians you start off your report with, can you explain what transpired? >> these two women were in aspen for a big comedy festival. it was a big break for them. after their show, louis c.k. invited them to hang out in his hotel room. it was kind of a normal thing to do. the bars were closed, they wanted to celebrate. they joined him, they didn't think anything untoward might happen. when they got there, they still were in their coats and hats. they didn't even take any of their winter clothing off and he immediately said he asked if he could take his penis out. before they realized what could happen -- they thought it was a joke. they laughed it off. then he did that, took all his clothes off and started masturbated. >> in front of them? >> yeah. they were in shock. he did it in front of them. >> this is not, according to your reporting cara, there are other women -- this seems to be a pattern. >> certainly our reporting showed that. we talked to a number of other women who said louis either asked if he could masturbate in front of them or they were on the phone with him talk ing about -- one woman called him up to invite him to her comedy tour show and she realized he was steering the conversation into private territory and then she realized soon that he was masturbating on the phone. another woman we talked to said when she was working on "the chris rock show," and he was too, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her in the office. >> there was an apology -- he made two apologies. was it to the two comedians from aspen? >> he made a couple of apologies to women that -- >> years later? >> yeah years later that this happened. he spoke to -- he sent messages to one woman, the woman he talked to on the phone and he said to her in a facebook message that he wanted to apologize to her for that phone call, which he said ended in a sordid fashion. and to another woman he called and said he owed her a very late apology. in her case, that was ten years after he asked her, on the set of a tv pilot if he could masturbate in front of her. >> did any of these women feel this had ramifications on their careers? because lui luis c.k. has a very powerful manager or agent who represents kevin hart and others? >> he's powerful in and of himself as a performer and he has really powerful people behind him. several women we spoke to said they feared that talking about this might have repercussions for their careers. even having any interactions with him in the form of the apology, they felt uncomfortable that this might come back to haunt them. >> the case of the two women at the aspen hotel who louis masturbated in front of, they heard -- they began telling everyone that they met afterwards. they were in shock. they thought, do we go to the police? we're not sure. there has to be something we can do, can we generate outrage and shame? they began telling people. they soon heard that louis c.k.'s manager was very angry that they were doing so. and they were new to the comedy scene. they were about to move to los angeles. this was a big player there and they felt like, we've angered this person, we can't possibly you know, submit our material to his shows. for many, louis c.k.'s manager represents some very top people. >> they felt like they were arriving into a scene with a lot of enemies. >> my understanding, according to your reporting is that even some of the people they told, some of the men they told seemed to kind of have a negative reaction. >> well, louis c.k. has a real stature in the comedy world. he's a comedian that is revered by other comedians. he's ground breaking. his comedy is very funny. and when they were having that experience and sharing their story with what happened to them in that hotel room, they said that people were backing away as though it was dangerous to even hear that story. >> he's also -- i mean, uses -- has talked about this in his act, hasn't he? >> he rue routinely talks about it. some people felt he was using this comedy almost as a mask for what perhaps, you know, real life misconduct. he jokes extensively about his impulses, as we've seen. about masturbating. in his new film, there's a scene where a character mimics aggressive masturbation at length. >> in front of other people. >> in front of other people. so it does seem to be something -- it's just -- he traffics in it in his comedy. >> it's just such a -- there was the incident with harvey weinstein allegedly doing this in front of a female reporter in a restaurant in a hallway. but it's such an odd thing that he would talk about it openly in his act. one of the apologies, didn't he say something about, i was going through a difficult time? >> yeah, that was one of the women who he -- the woman who he spoke with when he was speaking with her on the phone, he said i was going through a dark time, i was going through a tough time. i apologize for it. it seems from those messages that he was saying it's behind me now. but, of course, we don't know if that's true. >> because louis decided not to comment for our story. >> cara buckley, appreciate it, and melena ryzik, thanks very much. thanks for watching 360. time now for don lemon and cnn tonight. i'm don lemon, and we begin with breaking news. the republican candidate for the u.s. senate in alabama fighting back against explosive allegations that he had a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl when he was in his 30s and engaged in questionable conduct with other teenagers. roy moore slamming that report in the "washington post," calling it a desperate political attack by his opponents. top gop senators on capitol hill up in arms tonight, saying if the allegations are true, moore must drop out of the senate race. and more breaking news tonight on two fronts. in the russia investigation, a cnn exclusive. top white house adviser steven

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