Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with indepth reporting and investigations. The cleanup was after the Helsinki Summit saying he meant to say wouldnt instead of would although in that cleanup the president said it could be others meddling and since then calling the russia story a hoax and investigation rigged. The difference between the president s reluctance to call out russia and the security teams willingness to was noticeable. Striking enough to call out this question from dni coats. In the runup to the Helsinki Summit,s u. S. Officials, nato ambassadors to russia said the president would raise the issue of maligned activity with the president. He didnt address that. You said to make the issue of meddling a priority. How do you explain the disconnect between what you are
speech and his officials were so clear in the russia involvement. I think the fact the president continues to acknowledge this is exactly why the intel chiefs had to do this. When you have a threat from a foreign adversary, attack, you need the United States to speaker with one voice and that voice usually comes from the president of the United States, to say, this is who we are, this is what our values are. This is important when there is misinformation, part of the attack is a misinformation campaign. The president , consciously or not, is actually doing putins work for him. He is echoing and amplifying divisive messages putin is hoping to sow and delegitimizing rhetoric. So i think that part of fight willing back is for these intel chiefs is to make this public statement. Phil, you worked for the cia and fbi in your long career. Does it really matter whether or
not the president is echoing what the National Security apparatus is saying as long as you have chris wray, dni coats, nielsen, all pointing at russia, saying were aware of this, working on this, doing everything we can to make sure the sanctity of the voting process remains. Timeout, anderson. 95 of the americans couldnt name one of the people who spoke today. Cant name the National Security advisor and cant name the cabinet members. They can name the president of the United States and he has at least two major responsibilities here well beyond the intel that people like me who used to be on the inside would ask him to do. Number one, what is the message to vladamir putin after we see this happening only a week after helsinki, the president told vladamir putin why dont you visit the white house. I can tell you the consequences on vladamir putin are nothing. If the russians continue to this, the answer to trump is, sure, ill go visit the white house and we dont have to talk about it. One final point and more significant, the domestic message the president has to send, in new york you live in new york, anderson, time and time again they say the new York Police Department and fbi have secret work to do. If you see something say something. The governor and mayor had a message to the people. And the facebook intervention they talked about this week, what has the president said to the American People and who is the messenger to the American People. I dont see one, anderson. If this were so important, should the president have been there or echoed this at least tonight saying, you know, ive i totally agree with what my intelligence chiefs said and as opposed to talking about it as a hoax . Of course, anderson but it is clear the president does not agree with what the intelligence chiefs are saying. You saw the clip a few moments ago he called this a hoax and they are saying this is a major
danger to the United States. One of the most revealing lines is when john bolton said, the president has made very clear what his priorities are. By that, i think bolton meant he has a priority focusing on russia. In fact, the president has made very clear his priority is not to focus on the russian threat, he only views this through his prism of his own political selfinterest. He doesnt care about getting to the root of the russian interference in the 2016 election or in the future, all he cares about is saving his own political skin, which is why he and other senior officials have now taken to referring to the Mueller Probe as a rigged witch hunt delegitimizing the investigation and essentially doing vladamir putins work for him. I talked to Michael Hayden and director clapper, all saying having the president be the one on top of all his National Security apparatus directing all of their efforts. We heard from each of these people individually. Chris wray testified in congress what the fbi is doing to try to
counterrussia in the upcoming election and dni coats and others express concerns. People who worked in Intelligence Agencies and the fbi all say it is critical for the president to be the one setting the agenda and giving it all a sense of urgency and coordination. Do you agree with that . Absolutely. One of the things after 9 11, in light of the 9 11 commissions recommendations was to break down barriers in terms of sharing intelligence, create the office of the director of National Intelligence in order to bring all these different perspectives these agencies have so that good policy can be made. That is made at the top by the president of the United States. Many things, covert actions abroad, have to be authorized by him in writing with a finding its important to National Security. So, in many ways, these Agencies Cannot Act effectively without him getting on board and without him creating a coordinated strategy and tell them exactly what he wants them to do. Did it jump out to you that hes not fully aware what happened at the summit or talk about it . Not understanding or having been reliably been briefed by the president exactly what he said to vladamir putin, i find that surprising. It is. Let me make this real to you. If there is a conversation between the president and putin about Election Interference and putin makes specific representations about what he will or will not do. Lets take it further, say theres a conversation about syria and russian engagement in syria and putin makes representations to the president. Who will verify what putin says to the president . The director of the National Intelligence. The dni coming out of helsinki should be saying, putin said this, mr. President and this is what putin said after speaking about russian interference. Instead, what he told us, you just reported to us he doesnt know what happened. I have spoken quite a bit about what happened in helsinki, what do you think about what dni coats said . Its deeply disturbing. This is a president accused very credibly of colluding with russia in 2016. Evidence is piling up including the recent cnn report Michael Cohen is prepared to testify donald trump knew in advance about the meeting between the russians and the Trump Campaign. You have a president suspected of working with russia to affect american democracy. The same president is in an off the record meeting with the russian president where nobody including the National Security knows what happened. This is not diplomacy as usual,
very unusual and disturbing and worrisome given the unique vulnerability of donald trump to russian pressure. Thanks very much. Next, the revelation of manaforts trial, not how little money he had but how little he had when he went to work for donald trump, riches to rags tail. And youll hear it when we come back about. Also Breaking News on alleged spy maria butina. What it might say about how russian intelligence operates in the u. S. But just one can behr through it all. Behr premium plus, a top rated interior paint at a great price. Family friendly, disaster proof. Find it exclusively at the home depot. Where were changing withs . Contemporary makeovers. Then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. Who has the upper hand now . Start winning today. Book now at lq. Com. Just for a shot. With Neulasta Onpro patients get their dayr
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too. These are the details prosecutors are putting out for the jury. As much as the defense shows the bad guy her exact quote was he approved every penny of everything we paid. Not only that, the bookkeeper describes in details how manafort lied to the banks. Prosecutors show a side by side of documents. One where the book keeper told one bank that manaforts company lost more than 1 million in 2016. Manafort, he sent the same person at that same bank a different Financial Statement saying his Company Actually made 3 million by around the same time period. Prosecutors are priming this jury with a lot of evidence for charges to show he committed tax fraud, too. And saying now gates will testify. They floated will he or wont they, they werent sure. They finally said they will call gates, today or tomorrow. And will manafort testify . Thats something the judge
brought up. They want to bring in evidence manafort was ever audited by the irs. The judge said, if you want that evidence or testimony to come in, it would be much better if Paul Manafort testifies, the next big question. Appreciate it. Still Breaking News what that russian woman arrested for conspiracy and acting as a russian agent, forever she acted as charged and some info on her skillset with politician, a hint, she wasnt exactly subtle. What are you learning . She wasnt exactly subtle. She is innocent until Proven Guilty but an alleged russian
spy. She didnt use the kind of Spy Technology we would expect, communicating on twitter and whatsup, with those her own age and older men. She was so flirtatious, men walked away wondering what her ulterior motive was, what she wanted from them. This gives you the various ways moscow runs its influence operation, thats what experts said when i asked about her spy tactics. Look, vladamir putin has a number of seasoned operatives he can plant in the u. S. To run operations for him. He also will tap people like maria butina through other people he knows to gain information and access in the u. S. Thats what prosecutors say is going on in this case, anderson. Did she talk about ties to russian intelligence at any point . She did. This is one of the allegations that has come out against her from some of her classmates who wish to remain anonymous, there were a Couple Instances she
actually was intoxicated according to sources who were familiar with this and talked about her ties to the russian government and talked about her ties to russian intelligence and talked about how she ran a Gun Rights Group from moscow and sort of had the buyin to russian intelligence. This was so alarming to some people she said it in front of, on two separate instances, her classmates reported it to Law Enforcement. What does her lawyer say . He says she was completely innocent, an American University student, not a spy. Shes pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiracy as well as acting as a Foreign Agent in the u. S. But he also said in other interviews he believes sexism and this antirussian sentiment given the Political Climate now has tainted the case against her. He hasnt fully made these arguments in court but shes back in september and we will
hear more in the courtroom. More Breaking News who Robert Mueller wants to talk to now in his investigation, a name that goes back to the russians in the campaign and you might be surprised to it. Also, theres new insight on whether the president wants to sit down with the Special Council or not. Could there be a method behind the choice legal experts call not a great idea. The legal team weighs in when 360 continues. My car smells good. Its these new freshfx car Air Fresheners from armor all. Each scent can create a different mood in my car. Like tranquil skies. Armor all, its easy to smell good. Bundle and save big, but now its time to find my dream abode. Right away, i could tell his priorities were a little unorthodox. Keep going. Stop. A little bit down. Stop. Back up again. Is this adequate sunlight for a Komodo Dragon . Yeah. Sure, i want that discount on Car Insurance just for owning a home, but im not compromising. Youre taking a shower . Water pressures crucial, scott its like they say location, location, koi pond. They dont say that. But its tough to gete enough of their nutrients. Ond. New one a day with natures medley is the only complete multivitamin with antioxidants from one total serving of fruits and veggies try new one a day with natures medley. Do you think the president wants to sit down or part of a strategy . Its probably both. Donald trump is nothing if not selfconfident. Hes testified a lot and given a lot of depositions in civil cases. Hes mostly done better than badly in those cases. Everybody focuses on the tim obrien case in the New York Times but actually done well. Hes never been charged with perjury in what he said in those depositions. He has done well. Most of those cases have wound upsetting rather than going to a resolution. I think hes confident in handling a deposition. I think its part of his brand not to be afraid of anything. I think he wants to be perceived as someone who has nothing to hide and will testify. I think there is really, at least a measure of candor in what hes saying that he does want to testify. This seems to be how donald
trump has approached a lot of situations in his life believing he can if he talks to somebody he can convince them. He can be very charming when he wants to be. Is that something hes had all his life . It absolutely is a quality hes exhibited all of his life. I only found really one example of an interview where he just couldnt bring anybody around, and it was one of the early ones he did with time magazine. He bumped into a reporter who actually reminded me temperamentally what people say about Robert Mueller. He was a pretty upstanding straight ahead guy and trump just couldnt win him over. For the most part, he is able to win people over. He gets them relaxed and charms them and i think he even surprises them when hes not super aggressive. He could attempt that. As mentioned he has experience testifying in depositions. He even images himself as a lawyer himself he has spent so much time with attorneys he feels expert. If there is an interview with mueller, theres not going to be a judge there. He can filibuster. Youve interviewed the then candidate trump, he talks and talks and that could eat up practically the whole interview. I think he knows that. Just a prosecutor sitting there is not going to be able to say to him, stop talking. He is in many respects going to be able to control what happens if there is an interview. Again, that doesnt mean its necessarily a good idea for him. He has a lot of tools at his disposal. I spoke to Alan Dershowitz last night, saying he always tries to get clients not to do an interview in this situation, its a Perjury Trap Waiting to happen. If youre not lying, how is it a perjury trap . A perjury trap has always been a meaningless expression to me. If you tell the truth, youre not going to be perjured . Dershowitz says if theres Somebody Else who believes theyre telling the truth, a different version of events what the president is saying prosecutors can go with that persons version. Have too much respect for mueller that they would simply bring some sort of action. Remember, theres not going to be a criminal prosecution out of here. All thats going to come out of this is some sort of report. The mere fact that two people have different recollections of an event does not create an create a perjury trap. That happens all the time. The fact that theres a legal trap is a bogus argument. According to the times, if the president sits down with them he can convince them their own inquiry is a witch hunt and obviously Shows Confidence in his own ability to sway people. Of course, hes ever
consecutive. I think in this case the stakes are much higher than the stakes hes faced in any litigation prior. There is that factor to consider. Believe it or not he does imagine himself to be the actual president of the United States. He doesnt act like it a lot. He does, i think, have in mind his legacy. That could move him to resist ultimately cooperating as much as Robert Mueller would have him cooperate. Hes going to be more careful than usual, uncharacteristically careful, i think. Remember, too, what i think hes really trying to convince is the public, not so much the mueller people. Hes been pretty effective. Look how republicans have shifted over the course of the Mueller Investigation. His people have come around on mueller to feeling its a witch hunt. I dont think he really believes he will convince mueller hes engaged in a witch hunt, i do think he believes at least his supporters will feel that way if they dont already. Lastly, i want to ask you about the reporting that the mueller team is seeking to interview this russian pop star behind the introductions setting up the trump tower meeting. How likely is that it that would actually happen . Why would some russian citizen do that . The pop star who is the person that engineered the infamous tower meeting. He spends a lot of time in the United States and grew up in new jersey. Hes english. He will not get within a mile of this. His father, who financed the Miss Universe in moscow in 2013, he will stay farther away. Im not surprised the mueller team is trying to get to them but i wouldnt hold their breath. As we mentioned, President Trump is on the Campaign Trail again, on the rally with a crowd where people who believe in Conspiracy Theories, call themselves q anon. Well hear what they have to say. What does help for heart the beat goes on. It looks like emily cooking dinner for ten. The beat goes on. It looks like jonathan on a date with his wife. Ladiladi. Entresto is a Heart Failure medicine that helps your heart. So you can keep on doing what you love. In the largest Heart Failure study ever, entresto was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. It helps improve your hearts ability to pump blood to the body. Dont take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. Dont take entresto with an Ace Inhibitor or aliskiren, or if youve had angioedema with an ace or arb. The most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. Ask your doctor about entresto for Heart Failure. Yeah entrust your heart to entresto. The beat goes on. Chicken thats right, chicken . candace new Chicken Creations from starkist. Buffalo Style Chicken in a pouch bold choice, charlie just tear, eat. Mmmmm. And go try all of my Chicken Creations chicken
what they told us was quite interesting. Waiting in line in a driving rain, very motivated trump supporters, wanting to see the president in person in wilkesbarry, pennsylvania. We are q. Reporter some of those people wearing and holding the 17th letter of the alphabet. Reporter youre holding a red, white and blue q. Why do you have it . Its shift. Reporter you are wearing a shirt that says it means where we go one we go all. Q anon is the people that believe in what trumps trying to do to change our country. Reporter that is a generalization. More specifically what q anon is, is a Fringe Movement in which many baseless Conspiracy Theories are discussed on the internet, organized on the idea of anonymous but wellconnected persons nicknamed q. Your shirt says the storm is here. What does that mean to you . Ive been following the posts since october 28th. Reporter on the internet. The person other persons who say theyre q. Right. What is q . An entity of 10 or less people that have a problem with the government . Have high security clearance. Reporter how do you know that . Im telling you this is what i appears to be. Appears to be. This is what youre guessing. You dont have proof there isnt. Weve all been gathering online talking as americans and uniting. Reporter do you think it makes you comfortable talking with other frustrated people . Yes. Reporter maybe theres no evidence of it. Stuff talked about it on the internet. There hasnt been
nonevidence yet . Reporter and a major this is press is the enemy. You dont believe in the First Amendment . I do. You guys are weaponized. Reporter what is that . I dont know anybody in the cia except a couple people over the years. What does it mean . Conspiracy theorists. Reporter do you think im weaponized by the cia . Maybe not to your knowledge. Thats unfortunate. Reporter you believe there is a deep state . Yes. Reporter what do you think that deep state is doing . Running this country . I think they were and theyre petrified now because theyre losing their control. Reporter donald trump is the president. Hes running the country, right . Yeah. Hes having to fight against them. Reporter he said he could do it all himself. You think hes fighting with the deep state a year and a half in his term . I think he was fighting before he was elected. Reporter who is in the deep state . The clinton and bushes and obamas. Reporter you think the clintons and bushes and obamas are running this country as we stand here in the rain . No. Theyre trying. Reporter the anonymous q is
a hero to many, one man hoping to believe in q looking straight into our camera. Is it possible youre believing in bogus information . Lets see, q, lets see. Did you get large numbers of people lining up at the Rally Support the q . What sort of numbers did you see . Reporter i dont think there were large numbers, anderson. A lot of people we talked to had no idea what it was. Other people wanted to see donald trump and other people wanted to see the president of the United States with their children. It seems like a relatively small number. I will tell you its catching on and i would anticipate at future rallies we will see more People Holding big qs and clothes with qs on them. Do they think the president supports q anon. Reporter Sarah Sanders was asked about it and did not give any indication at all the president supports it. Each and every person i talked to who follows this does believe
donald trump is a supporter even though he hasnt said so. Appreciate you being there. Joining me now is will summer, reporter for The Daily Beast writing for q non since its inception. Do you have any idea how many people believe ins the Conspiracy Theories . I certainly dont want to paint people they were saying its relatively small number of people who went to this rally. Hard to tell how many people believe in it. You wouldnt want to say everyone at the rally, a Diehard Trump supporter. At the same time, the numbers at these rallies were seeing, maybe a couple dozen believers. Thats pretty bizarre in april there was a rally in d. C. , a
couple hundred people showed up. They were chanting the qanon slogans. You know, whatever it is, did is remarkable that so many people have become convinced of this. From what i understand, they have people believing the qanon thing. Have a different belief in what the Robert Mueller investigation actually is . Yes. They have come to believe that Robert Mueller is in league with trump and an ally of his, and its a ruse to cover up that hes really investigating Hillary Clinton or barack obama. Why would trump be attacking the Mueller Investigation . Thats all part of the ruse . I understand a rival to q has now emerged. People who go by the letter r . Q kind of disappeared in july, his followers are very devoted. They were left bereft and
someone named r showed up. They said, maybe this is the new guy to follow. And they posited that r was jfk jr. Who died nearly 2 decades ago. Does this have anything to do with the pizza gate foekds . There are republicans that Hillary Clinton and others are running a Pedophile Ring in a pizza parlor in the basement . Absolutely. A key part of qanon is not just that trump is fighting against the deep state or the clintons. Hes fighting against Global Pedestrian Fire networks all over the world. They have no evidence for this, its crazy stuff. I understand that some people believe that the president has
given them secret signs that the way he holds his hand or puts some fingers together hes forming the letter q during speeches . Yes, theyre obsessed with getting some sort of validation from trump that q is real. Theyll look at videos and saying, maybe hes moving his hand in a way that hes mentioning q. Theyve been asking a lot of white house reporters to ask trump about q. They seem to feel that this if trump was asked about it, theyre convinced he would say, oh, yeah, its all real. Does anyone seem to know who the person q actually is. Or if its a one person or groups of people . Qs identity is very mysterious. Maybe a foreign operative, theres a lot of theorys going around. Really nothing that i think is worth considering. I think perhaps its just a troll or a couple trolls in the basement somewhere and this whole thing has gotten out of hand. Can you explain again the core belief. The whole International Pedophile ring linked with the deep state. And Robert Mueller is yeah, its very confusing. I mean sort of the and its constantly growing. Something will happen in the news and theyll claim, oh, the deep state tried to shoot down air force one. Sort of the gist of it is that trump has teamed up with the military and sort of various virtuous world leaders, including Vladimir Putin and kim jongun to take on this global cabal of democrats and hollywood elites and bankers and all this kind of stuff, who they claim are essentially responsible for all the evil in the world and soon trump will have all these people arrested. William sommer, i appreciate your reporting. Fascinating stuff. I want to check in with chris to see what hes working on for Cuomo Prime Time at the top of the hour. Like every other fringe group, they can believe whatever they want. Its what they do in the name of
those beliefs that raises concern just like Fringe Groups on the left and others on the right. That was a good interview to have. Were going to be taking on the news tonight from a legal and a political perspective. Weve got governor kasich on the show. Weve got former a. G. Mukasey on the show. Were going to be testing out different theories of Whats Going On with the russia probe and what needs to happen in the next set of elections. Then were going to take a look at what the pope said about the Death Penalty and what it means to be prolife and how a lot of people who may think theyre prolife may not meet the standard according to the pope. Interesting. About 8 1 2 minutes from now. Up next, the search is on for this man who police say shot and killed a famed cardiologist. According to investigators, he held a grudge against the doctor, carried out a brazen execution on a bicycle in broad daylight. The police are looking for information about this person. More details ahead in a moment. You shouldnt be rushed into booking a hotel. With expedias addon advantage,
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a grudge hes held for more than 20 years. Thats when the suspects mother died during surgery while being operated on by hausknecht. On the morning of july 20th, dr. Hausknecht was riding his bicycle down this sidewalk. His wife said investigators told her that the gunman emerged from this scaffolding headon and fired at him three times. It was a brazen attack. It occurred at the height of morning rush hour on this busy street. Perhaps the gunfire was muzzled by the sounds coming from this construction site. But police say it was a well thought out and planned attack. So much so that it allowed the gunman to ride away on his own bicycle this way as if nothing had happened. Chief acevedo tells cnn evidence found Inside Pappas home shows the murder was painstakingly planned. This man was actually studying this doctor, studying what he was doing for a while, and it took great planning and ultimately great skill to do what he did. And im just thankful that we now know who he is and now with the help of the public and our great investigators, well find him. One way or the other, were going to find him. Reporter Joseph Pappas spent 30 years working in Law Enforcement as a constable in houston. He started a real estate business several years ago. Thats where he paid our bill. Reporter Joe Donaldson owns a legal Courier Business and he says he spoke to Joseph Pappas just before the murder. Pappas hired donaldson to file legal documents in a houston courthouse. The documents transferred the deed for his houston home to a woman in ohio. Donaldson says after leaving, pappas called him multiple times that morning to make sure the documents were filed. He was very nervous. He opened the door to a crack looking out. Then he opened it a little more. Then he opened it fully and was looking up and down the street, seeing if anyone else was there. Reporter for days Joseph Pappas stayed around his houston home. One neighborhood even says he was seen mowing his lawn this
past Sunday Morning before disappearing when police first checked on his home on tuesday night. Ed joins us now from houston. What are investigators worried about given his Law Enforcement background . Reporter multiple things. He might try to, you know, carry out a similar attack or want to you know, hes very skilled at being able to handle the firearm, that sort of thing. But one of the other concerns is he might somehow still have access to Police Radio Scanners and be able to monitor the manhunt for him. The police chief here in houston tells me that that is one thing they are concerned about and that theyre looking into it and how they handle the search for him. And theyre assuming hes still Armed And Dangerous . Reporter yeah, absolutely. The police chief says that, you know, no reason to believe he isnt Armed And Dangerous at this point given what hes already done. The other thing is that they have talked to somebody close to pappas, who told police that he received a text from pappas several days ago that he might