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Putin weighed in on other important matters in his country, but not this. Though we have heard from a kremlin spokesperson, we heard from the russia ambassador to the u. S. , and warning the u. S. That there is going to come a time when it is going to realize that it made a grave mistake. Although for its part, the Trump Administration has warned right back that if russia does retalia retaliate, which we expect it to do by expelling u. S. Diplomats, then this Administration May well take additional actions. And yesterday President Trump had a phone call with Justin Trudeau of canada, and in the readout the white house said that this behavior is the latest in its ongoing pattern of destabilizing activities around the world. So we have heard from the white house through the press secretary. They put out this strong statement, not signed by the president or in the president s name t was, like i said, from the press secretary, we heard from other administration officials, using very strong terms in strikie i describing r behavior. The question remains will we see trump weigh in on this action that he was the final decider on, and if he does weigh in, what exactly will he say . How aligned will he be with those around him . The reason we even have to ask this question is because it was only days ago that the same National Security team around him told him in all capital letters not to congratulate Vladimir Putin on his election win, but trump did just that. And he also didnt even bring up the poisonings in the uk on a phone call with putin. So how bought in is he on this action . Supposedly he was the one who decided to do this. Again, at the recommendation of his National Security team. But i think there are plenty of people out there wanting to hear from him on this directly. And thats the thing, there is a lot of bipartisan support for these recent moves by the administration. But youre still seeing this difference. One that seems to be more of a new development, at least in terms of the intensity and the significance of what were seeing. But there is quite a difference between the rhetoric that we have seen coming from the president as it pertains to russia and Vladimir Putin from the very beginning of the time he came into the white house. Yeah, there has been this difference among even certain members of his administration, and him. Nothing wrong with that. People are always going to differ in their thoughts on something, how it should be handled, and in the way they present themselves, but at times with this administration, it has been quite stark. Remember, only recently secretary of state Rex Tillerson when he was secretary of state put out a statement in his name excoriating russia over this poisoning attack. The next day, we saw him fired and that raised questions because of prior things that trump and members of his administration said, was he fired because of that statement . So it is strange to even have these questions. But they exist for a reason. And so when you see his National Security team recommend something and then he do just the opposite, it makes sense that the next time they make a recommendation for this action to punish russia over this poisoning attack we see the story leak out to us as if somebody who has a stake in these discussions wants the world to know that this was recommended to the president , perhaps just in case he decided not to take action, brianna. Michelle, thank you so much for that. Lets bring in our guest, michael anton, joining us from outside of the white house. Thanks so much for being with us, michael. Youre welcome. Thank you for beihaving me. The readout has some tough words for russia for sure. Why cant the president say that directly to vladimir pewtealadi the president used tough rhetoric before, in speeches in poland and europe, he used it in a widely mocked tweet that was 100 accurate when he tweeted several weeks ago his administration has been much tougher on russia than the past administration. I think the record bears that out. The record doesnt bear that out, michael. The record does bear it out. We have tightened all the existing sanctions, taken a bunch of new actions, the start of this administration, the russians had four consulates active in the United States, we closed two of them, thats a 50 reduction, we set we reduced the cap of diplomatic personnel in this country by more than 200 people, we just pngd by name 60 operatives yesterday, diplomatic perm for persona non grata, largest action ever taken. This is also a coordinated action with as of last night, 23 countries with more countries continually joining. The russians really have never faced a coordinated multinational diplomatic rebuke like this that they have faced and that is not 100 owing to this president s action, but certainly owing to his leadership in marshaling the countries together to all act in concert. That tweet was a while ago. And what youre talking about are some recent actions. No doubt there have been this has been welcomed by democrats and republicans. These recent actions. There does remain this disconnect, though, between these more recent policy decisions of the administration and the words of the president. Why doesnt the president just articulate the criticisms and concerns about russian aggression that his administration is taking action on in. The tweet was about three weeks ago, maybe a month, wasnt particularly long ago. The closure of the San Francisco consulate and the reduction of the personnel cap by 200, a very big number, that took place in september. The approval of were talking about his rhetorical michael. Thats not what i asked you about, michael. You said why have the actions only gotten tough recently . Im taking you back through thats not what i asked. Im saying why is he using michael, michael, thats not what im asking. The rhetorical restraint, as you know, thats not his style, thats completely counter to his style. Why is that his style when it comes to russia . This administration is actually rhetorically tough on russia in a number of different venues. The actions are what matter more than the rhetoric. What youre referring to is the phone call and other interactions with president putin which have been cordial. The president values the leader to leader relationship. He wants to see relations improve if the russian government chooses to take another path and he thinks maintaining cordial relations at the top is the one viable way to see the relations improve if the russians choose another path. As yet they havent chosen another path. Were hoping that showing a tough face and remaining tough in action will bring about a change of heart on the part of the russian government. So far that hasnt happened, but the door is still open for them to have that change of heart and act differently. So go easier rhetorically on a foe like russia, but rhetorically be tougher talking about allies like mexico or australia . I dont know exactly what youre referring to. You might be referring to some leaked transcripts of private phone calls where the president did deliver tough messages to allies. But the president this president delivered a combination of tough and positive messages to allies, adversaries and countries in the middle alike. The United States has interest that we have to defend. We have unbalanced trade relationships with some allies. Hes been willing to call this out in a way that hasnt been called out in decades. Thats an were seeing results because of that. Were getting nafta renegotiated, making progress on renegotiating the u. S. Korea free trade agreement. These things are positive steps that require a little tough language to get going. And also requires an acknowledgement of truth that has been denied or ignored for far too long. It is a mistake to focus on the fact the president had two face to face interactions, one in hamburg and not a meeting, a hallway conversation at the apec summit in vietnam and a few phone calls. He kept the interactions cordial, tried to keep them positive, but hes also been willing to bring up with Vladimir Putin serious concerns, so the call from last week, they talked about strategic stability in the Nuclear Realm and the president was pointed in his criticism of some of putins recent Nuclear Saber rat ling and what he thought was unhelpful rhetoric about the potential arms race, he was pointed about that. I think it is inaccurate to say his rhetoric toward Vladimir Putin or personal conversations is always positive. He brings up u. S. Concerns. He did not bring up russian interference in the election. He didnt bring up the uk poisonings. I want to ask you, michael come on, now, they had a 45 minute out of 2 1 2 hour meeting in hamburg, 45 to 50 minutes spent on meddling in the elections. The president felt that putin said all he was going to say, denied it several times and the reason he didnt bring up the poisoning in the conversation with putin is because this u. S. Action was in motion at the time they had the conversation. As President Trump often has said, he doesnt telegraph his moves or punches when hes about to make a move. He let the process play itself out, knowing he was getting close to taking this action, rather than warn the rugs or gi russians or give them advance notice. Th there was a white house statement, there was a white house statement that came out days ago. I will say that. I want to ask you about Something Else. Jim acosta had this question for your colleague raj shah after this announcement was made. Lets listen. Would this president consider sanctioning Vladimir Putin or his cronies to punish him and the russian government for what happened in the uk and for meddling in the 2016 election . Well, the United States has issued sanctions on key russian oligarchs in response to the meddling in the 2016 election. So i wouldnt close any doors or i wouldnt preclude any potential action, but the president doesnt telegraph his moves. The sanctions that were announced on march 15th by the administration were against people who were listed or entities listed in the mueller indictment. Russian internet trolls, folks involved in that online operation, the man who bankrolled that. And a few Intelligence Officers as well. Thats not a crackdown on russian oligarchs. So why did raj shah say that there was. He was referring to one of the provisions of a congressional law that requires us to submit a two reports really, one unclassified report and a classified annex to capitol hill that outlines the activities of russian oligarchs and russian both government and private sector figures, suspected of or known to interfere in that was a list of oligarchs that treasury put out. Those werent sanctions. It is a list that is a precursor to further action. These actions take a while to develop. We cant just sanction people spontaneously. Congress passed you guys passed on imposing those sanctions that congress i think youre misunderstanding what happened. Thats a different provision. One of the other provisions, what it does youre not talking about the list of oligarchs put out by the administration. Youre confusing the two. Im trying to explain it to you. One of the other provisions of the law says that the United States will be required to sanction third countries if they do business with certain russian entities. It leaves it to the executive branch to define which of those russian entities. We did that. We published that list. As a result of publishing that list, countries that were contemplating doing business with these russian entities backed off. So it is true that the deadline to sanction those countries or the certainly not the deadline but the first Effective Date passed. The reason no sanctions were issued on that date and they would not have been sanctions against russia, would have been sanctions against third party countries, those countries did not engage in any transactions with the russian entities. The law acted as a deterrent with the way it was intended to. Countries backed away from doing business with the russian entities that the executive branch identified. You said it may be a precursor to further action. So it may be. Now, what the administration chose to do, not in line with what congress was certainly supporting, are you saying that perhaps thats not accurate either. Look at the statements that how is that not accurate . Look at the statements that the author of the senator bob corker put out saying that hes satisfied that the administration has complied with the law thus far. If other countries do business with russian entities, we will sanction those countries. So far they havent done it. In part because they have been deterred from doing it by the law, one of the things the law was intended to do. Michael anton, thank you very much for joining us. Youre welcome. Thank you. And breaking news, officials in Louisiana Holding a News Conference on whether or not there will be charges against two Police Officers in the 2016 shooting death of an unarmed africanamerican man, alton sterling. Stay with us for that. Im leaving the track behind, but im not standing still. And with godaddy, ive made my ideas real. I made my own way, now its time to make yours. Everything is working, just like it should searching for answers may feel overwhelming. So start your search with our teams of specialists at Cancer Treatment centers of america. The evolution of cancer care is here. Learn more at cancercenter. Com experts if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, Little Things can be a big deal. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not an injection or a cream. 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And joining me now to discuss is cnn legal analyst joey jackson and Cedric Alexander, deputy mayor of rochester, new york, also served as the citys police chief. So, cedric, alton sterling shot by police in july of 2016. The Louisiana Attorney general has had this case since last may. For months, elected officials have called on landry to finish his investigation to make this announcement. Did this investigation take the appropriate amount of time in your opinion . Well, two years is a long time since the time of this shooting. And when you have that long period of time that takes place, all it really does, quite frankly, is leave citizens feeling as if nothing is being done. When in fact everything could be completed as part of this investigation. But to your question, it is lengthy, but, of course this is a very sensitive case that has been watched locally and across the country, but considering the fact and the circumstances around this, it certainly creates some question having to wait two years to find out whats going on here. Joey, the Louisiana Attorney general only got this case because the Justice Department gave it to him. They found they didnt have enough evidence to move forward. Does that tell you anything about what state prosecutors are announcing . Well, lets talk about this. Good to see you, good morning. Good morning, doctor. You know, there are different standards of proof in a federal case than there would be a state case. Under the federal governments theory, in the event you were going to show a civil rights violation, you are to show willfulness, you have to show that with regard to the killing. Some would argue the tape shows exactly that. The federal government disagreed with that. However, when it goes to the state, the state has so many more tools available to them in the event they wanted to pursue charges. Like what . Take out the element of intent for one minute. And say, for example, there was a conclusion reached by the state that there was no intent to kill at this point. They were merely attempting to protect themselves. Clearly the state could proceed under a theory where the officers acted recklessly, consciously disregarded the risk of their behavior. You could argue they acted negligently, they were careless, et cetera, they escalated the confrontation. Understanding the dynamic between federal government and not Going Forward because they were thinking they couldnt prove intent, you have to understand the State Government could still, if they wanted to, move forward on the theories that the officers acted carelessly and irresponsibly. Whether they do that remains to be seen with this press conference, there are a lot more tools at the state level to pursue charges if they wanted to and if the evidence pointed in that direction than they would be at federal level. Cedric, it is a case really, as so many cases do, that has gripped this local community. It has been under the National Spotlight as well. The state police are mobilizing ahead of this announcement. If you were in law enforcement, in baton rouge today, what would your concerns be . What hold on a moment. Lets listen to the announcement right now. Throughout the encounter, the officers attempted several nonlethal techniques to gain compliance and control of mr. Sterlings hands. Their efforts to do so were a direct result of the information relayed to them by the Baton Rouge Police department dispatcher. And that was that mr. Sterling was armed with a firearm. Therefore their attempt to gain control of mr. Sterlings hands, well founded, and reasonable, under the circumstances, and under louisiana law. Further more, the officers concern that he was armed and dangerous was in fact subsequently verified and correct. The seminole question presented is whether officers how why s h and Blane Salamoni our job was not to determine whether the Baton Rouge Police departments policy was followed, or if certain tactics or language was more appropriate than others. After a thorough and exhaustive review of the evidence, the facts that can be established beyond a reasonable doubt, the law and jurisprudence in the state of louisiana and the obligations of prosecutors under the code of professional conduct, the Louisiana Department of justice cannot proceed with a prosecution of either officer lake or officer salamoni. This decision was not taken lightly. We came to this conclus aftion r countless hours. Thats the conclusion there. What do you think as you hear this, no charges. You hear landry saying that there were several times they tried to use nonlethal actions to get a hold of his hands and they had reason to believe he was armed because the dispatcher had told them that and he said this was well founded and reasonable. Their actions were. Under the circumstances, and under law. What did you think . Well, to be quite frank with you, im not surprised of the outcome of this investigation. As you just heard, the state ag clearly articulated all the evidence suggests that this was not some careless shooting or some vicious shooting. So unfortunate for everyone involved. But here again, i will go back to what i said earlier, when cases such as this, as the whole world watched, and it became very sensitive to the entire community in light of where the police and community is in baton rouge and in many cities across the country, it created a great deal of pause. Going forward, one thing is going to have to happen, that city mayor and that chief, both very capable and competent, will hopefully move that community toward healing because this is a time we have to begin to bridge these relationships and hopefully over the last couple of years they have been doing so, so that resolve can come to this and this community can heal and everyone can somehow find a way to move on with their lives. Joey, some people are not going to be ready to do that. They look at that video, and they see a man who is pinned down, you hear there landry saying his hands were not secured. He had a weapon, yes there did turn out to be a weapon, but a lot of folks look at that video and they say, no, this doesnt match what i am seeing here. And therein lies the problem. Look, people, of course, are going to go and theyre going to peacefully protest and they have the absolute right to do that. And why are they doing that . Because you see repeatedly where Police Engaging in behavior like this are clear, clear, clear. It speaks to a number of issues. Number one, i understand that the attorney general is opining about what he believes the evidence shows, thats a jury question. And in the event you want to ensure police accountability, Start Holding police accountable. There are members of a jury who could assess whether or not the conduct was reckless in any way, whether or not the comment was negligent in any way, but not to bring forth charges at all and clears them furthers the narrative and the divide that are police respecting communities or escalating matters . In speaking about that, what about investigations of the police . Should they be done by officials or should they be done by perhaps outside sources, where the public can truly respect and understand what they say. So i dont think the public is going to be at all pleased with this in any way, shape or form. Something, in my view, not surprising, but entirely disappointing and i think members of that community should have heard, evaluated the evidence and they should have been the one deciding whether or not this was criminal, not a unilateral determination made by a state official who is too closely connected in my view to the matter. If i can jump in here for a minute. In many ways i agree with my friend joey there. In some ways i do have to differ. I differ from the perspective is this, this is the process there in the state of louisiana. If thats their process, then the process maybe needs to be changed. But what we have in front of us now is a determination of due process that has been concluded. No, there are not going to be people in that community that are happy, but what has to happen, if theyre not satisfied with the process, how do we change that process because here again, as i said at the top of the show, two years is too long. It creates too much suspicion anytime an investigation takes that long. When a conclusion is not what a community assesses or appears what it should be, certainly does create continued anger and fear with people. But what i would say to that community as i said to many communities across this country is that now is the time, if you want to if people want to march and they want to protest, it has to be certainly in a peaceful and civil manner, so that your community and the rest of the country can hear you. But at the same time, that community is going to and its leadership is going to have to find a way to build and continue to build those bridges so that if something again similar to this even happens ever again, then a much better place than they were today. Briefly, how do you build those gaps and build the divide when you continually see investigators and state officials reaching gentlemen, im so sorry, i have been out of time for a moment here. Joey jackson, Cedric Alexander, thank you so much, joining us on this breaking news, the Louisiana Attorney general saying that theyre declining to press charges against the officer who killed africanamerican man Cedric Alexander in 2016. Well be right back. You cant judge a woman looking at her man. You cant judge a daughter by looking at the mother. You cant judge a book by looking at the cover. Taking one look. Try to read me like a book but i leave em all shook cuz you cant judge a book by its cover. You cant judge a book by looking at the cover [x2] a cockroach can survive heresubmerged ttle guy. Underwater for 30 minutes. Wow. Yeah. Not getting in today. Terminix. Defenders of home. Internet providers promise Business Owners a lot. Lets see who delivers more. Comcast business offers fast gigspeeds across our network. At t doesnt. We offer more complete reliability with up to 8 hours of 4g Wireless Network backup. At t, no way. 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He isnt ignoring this privately because we know that hes been polling his advisers, allies, whether or not he should respond publicly to these allegations. So far they have advised him against that. It is unclear how long he will heed that advice. We know hes complained about what he says is the wall to wall coverage of the allegations on cable news. And that his friend chris ruddy said it was a hoax, he believed it was meant to damage him politically and now the Washington Post is reporting that the president has even gone as far as to tell people that Stormy Daniels is not his type here. But back to whether or not hes going to publicly comment on this, it is hard to see just how much longer that lasts. People close to the president say they do not believe hell be able to exercise that restraint much longer. The lawyer has been taunting the president doing all these interviews, Stormy Daniels herself appearing on television, the president s favorite medium. Now the question is just how long does it take the president to actually come out and Say Something about these allegations. We saw a little crack, he said fake news was very i think he said voluminous yesterday in a tweet. We know what he was probably talking about there. I want to ask you about Something Else that is rob porter, the president s former aide, who left the white house after being accused of abusing both physicallymotionally his first wife as well as his second wife, we saw the alarming photos. Apparently hes in touch with rob porter. Reporter thats right, the New York Times is reporting the president has not only stayed in touch with rob porter, asking his advice on some issues, but floated the idea of having him return to the west wing. Now, it is not that surprising that the president kept in touch with porter. It is a little bit stunning given the allegations made against porter and the nasty departure that he had here from the white house, very frustrating not only because of those very serious allegations but also because the president believed that that departure was botched here by aides in the white house including the chief of staff john kelly. But the president has stayed in touch with him. He does this with people who leave the west wing or his orbit, dont often leave for very long and were seeing that here with rob porter. The thing you have to keep in mind is the context here, this is coming as the president s inner circle here in the west wing has continued to shrink over the recent weeks. Only the departure of rob porter, but hope hicks, keith schiller, johnny mcintee, several aides close to the president as well. Aides in the white house do not think it is likely that rob porter will return, given the seriousness of the allegations made against him. But it does go to show just how close he and the president were here. Kaitlan, thank you. I want to turn to the latest legal maneuver in the Stormy Daniels saga. The porn star is suing President Trumps long time lawyer Michael Cohen for defamation. Cnns m. J. Lee is joining us now on this story. What is the defamation suit all about . Reporter what Stormy Daniels is doing right now is staying on offense. As you know, she already has launched a lawsuit against donald trump earlier this month. And that lawsuit had to do with trying to get out of this nda. Make that void so she can speak out freely about her alleged affair with donald trump in 2006. Now that lawsuit has been amended to include Michael Cohen, cohen, of course, Donald Trumps personal lawyer, who was responsible for making that 130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels in 2016 to keep her quiet and to keep her from speaking about this affair. Now, what this lawsuit now says is that cohen is being accused of defamation, what Stormy Daniels is saying he is essentially calling her a liar even though hes not directly saying that. Here is Michael Avenatti, Stormy Daniels lawyer, talking about all of this on ac 360 last night. Mainly he made statements earlier this year whereby he basically said that the affair never happened, in not so many words, and made my client out to be a liar. So were going to test the voracity of his statements against those of my client. I also want to quickly note, you remember in the 60 minutes interview on sunday, Stormy Daniels said that she was threatened in a las vegas parking lot in 2011 and this had to do with her being quiet about the donald trump affair. Well, mine Michael Avenatti is saying since that interview aired, they have several new leads on who was responsible. He says that it wasnt directly Michael Cohen or keith schiller, Donald Trumps bodyguard, but the question remains are they going to be able to produce that kind of evidence, the hearing for this lawsuit is set for july of this year. Stormy daniels hinted at that in the interview. She said she would be able to identify that person again. We will see. M. J. Lee, thank you. Critics pushing back on the Trump Administration just hours after a controversial Citizenship Question is added to the 2020 census, whether youre a citizen or not, why it matters to you next. Im not a bigwig. Or a canythingo. But ive got an idea sir. Get domo. Itll connect us to everything thats going on in the company. Get it for jean whos always cold. For the sales team, it and the warehouse crew. Give us the data we need. In one place, anywhere we need it. Help us do our jobs better. With domo we can run this place together. Well thats thats your job i guess. You ok there, kurt . Were about to move. Karate helps. 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In the meantime, over at the interior department, secretary ryan zinke repeatedly said that diversity is not a priority there, and that he doesnt really care about it. This according to several Senior Department employees who have spoken to cnn. A spokeswoman says secretary zinke never said anything of the sort. Joining me to discuss, democratic strategist joe trippi and cnn political commentator paris denard, a member of President Trumps reelection advisory board. So you got the interior department, paris, about 68,000 employees, more than 70 of them are white. And so this is the backdrop of this discussion about what secretary zinke has said. What do you think about it . Well, i will say, just in general, i think that diversity is important. I think it is important. Diversity is important. I think what we do as a nation is we try to parse words and figure out are we talking about racial diversity, diversity as it relates to women . Heather swift, the spokesperson for the interior department, says shes known the secretary for a very long time, is a woman. And he just recently appointed two women, minorities, to high positions within the department. I think the last point is the racial makeup of the department of interior did not just come along in the year plus since the zinke administrationhas been there as a department head. This makeup, these careers, all the people that are there, the statistic that you cited happened long before the Trump Administration i dont know if thats exactly true about this statistics. He doesnt care about diversity thats the issue. Everybody has there say diversity of opinion, diversity of ideas, diversity of perspective, that a lost things the interior department oversees should have people in that department with a different perspective that are giving not just the diversity of race and yen dgender, he didnt caret it. Paris lets talk about what zinke is saying. Apparently allegedly said. Several people have told us this, okay. So it is not allegedly. He has said this and were told repeatedly that when this issue comes up, this is sort of how he responds to it. What do you think of that . I dont know. But what i do know is that the department of interior just gave a grant of 12. 6 million to africanamerican Historic Sites across the country. When you talk about diversity, and what these white people, if you will, are doing at the department of interior, i think thats something that is positive. If the secretary if these statements are true what the secretary is stating, i think what he could be saying is we are going to look at the best qualified candidate and go after that. If youre a white person and black person, equal footing, if youre africanamerican, you can get the job because youre the best candidate. You cant have diversity at you have to have diversity in leadership and cant have that if the leader of the organization doesnt care about diversity. It is not about it is about who has a better perspective on what a Community Needs if you dont have anybody from that community represented . Thats not true. Thats not thats not true. There are africanamericans that are there, there are minorities that are women that are there. I want to ask you about had a problem with this issue from the get go. I want to women and the Trump Administration, serving in i want to ask you about something very important that is, i new this morning, there are many questions that happened that you answer in the census, so theyre going to ask in the 2020 census, are you a citizen . There are concerns that, especially in this climate where there is a lot of uncertainty for folks who are undocumented, that what it means is that people are not going to actually answer the census. Then what youre going to have is places where maybe there are a lot of folks who are undocumented who are just not even going to answer the questions, its going to be underreported, and then you wont have an actual representation of whats going on in the country. I think we should answer the question and get an accurate number of who is in the country. Its important for statistical information, its important for the makeup to know how many citizens, how many people are here. This also reinforces the issue of daca and why we have to do something about immigration, because we want people to come out of the shadows. Im so sorry, joe, and i apologize, because you should have a chance to respond to that. I know you disagree very much. A lot, yeah. Thank you, gentlemen, i really appreciate it. We have breaking news. The facebook founder and Ceo Mark Zuckerberg has finally made a decision on whether or not he will testify before congress after a massive outrageous scandal outraged users. 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