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The new normal. Eight People Killed in a texas Shopping Mall rampage. A 5yearold child among the injured. It is just unfathomable to see the carnage. What will it take for americas leaders to act . The state from uvalde, democrat roland gutierrez, will join me on his efforts to change gun laws. Tough talk. President biden and Speaker Mccarthy set to meet with the nations Financial Stability hanging in the balance. America is not a deadbeat nation. We pay our bills. Reporter will we, when the bill comes due next month . Top democrat dick durbin will be here to talk about that and a crisis at the Supreme Court. Plus power struggle. New setbacks for russia and a growing threat in the middle east. A Special Cnn Exclusive as the House Intelligence Committee heads overseas. Republican chairman mike turner and ranking democrat jim himes join me. Hello. Im jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is once again shaken. Eight people are dead and at least seven others injured outside dallas, texas. The victims of a murderous rampage at an outlet mall as a sunny, saturday afternoon, Family Shopping Trip became an all too familiar scene these days in america of carnage. I never imagined in a hundred years i would be thrust into the position of being the First Responder on the site to take care of people. The first girl i walked up to was crouched down covering her head in the bushes. I felt for her pulse. Pulled her head to the side. She had no face. And she had no face. The Good Samaritan also tried to help a mother who was killed while trying to protect her child with her body. So when i rolled the mother over he came out. I asked him, are you okay . He said, my mom is hurt. My moms hurt. I didnt traumatize him anymore. I put him around the corner and sat him down. He was covered head to toe like somebody poured blood on him. Reporter the allen, Texas Shooter is dead, killed police say by a local officer at the mall who was there on an unrelated call and heard the shots and confronted the shooter. Photos obtained by cnn show what appears to be the gunman in black body armor with an ar style rifle on the ground. Officials still havent confirmed anything about the shooters weapon, name, identity, possible motive, how long he was shooting people before he was stopped. Officials refuse to answer questions at a press conference last night. A striking lack of accountability to members of the public for whom they work. Members of the public who are shocked and grieving and fearful for their own safety. These leaders always seem to have prayers not so much answers. Joining us now is a texas lawmaker who knows Gun Tragedies all too well. He is the State Senator who represents uvalde, texas, roland gutierrez. Senator, thanks for joining us, unfortunately, again, you represent uvalde the scene of the Robb Elementary School shooting that killed 21 people last year almost all of them children. Your reaction once again to scenes of horror from a mass shooting once again in texas . Thank you, jake. First off, that gentleman that you just had, that footage, hell never be able to take those images from his mind. Ive seen hundreds of hours of body cam of what happened in uvalde. As much as you dont want people to see that in america, you know, what happens, literally, their face is gone. Ive seen two images like that in the Uvalde Victims where the little girls faces are just gone. The rest of the children, the bodies riddled, damaged, mangled like you cant believe. People need to really wake up. I mean, wake up to whats happening here. It is almost it has almost become some normal event for everybody. This is happening in your communities. It can happen anywhere in the United States. Certainly it is happening a tremendous amount in texas where Republican Leaders have just allowed people to run free with ar15s and any gun they can get their hands on. It is very sad where were at right now. Honestly nobody in the news media should do anything that goes against the wishes of a family. But do you think by censoring these images, by keeping them from the American People, we in the news media are doing a disservice to the public whom we serve . I think that certainly families need to be part of that decision. That said, i had a still photo in my file that i wanted to show to members of the texas senate and walk around with because i was so disgusted in their ability to do anything and have bills on the senate floor about common sense gun safety solutions. I ended up shredding that photo because i didnt think it was appropriate. I didnt think i needed it wasnt fair to that family whose little girl had died in such a horrific way and i had not asked them. As you know i signed a nondisclosure agreement, jake, to not divulge or distribute that information. But on the senate floor i felt that people should see these images, one of those leaders in texas told me, roland, there is a reason we dont look at the body cam footage. Jake, ive seen hundreds of hours. I had to see it because i needed to see the Police Failure that happened in uvalde. We were lucky yesterday. Imagine that. Nine people dead and the representative from that area says, oh, the police acted. It could have been worse. I dont know how many times i need to hear that. How many times do we need to hear that . You are supporting raising the minimum age for gun purchases to 21 years old, strengthening background checks, raising a red flag law that would hopefully keep weapons out of the hands of people who are a danger to themselves or others. Is there anything you think could have prevented this . Law enforcement hasnt been generous with the details yet. We dont know the age of the person. Ive seen images on the internet this was an ar15. I cant confirm that yet. That is the other distinction here in texas. You look at tennessee, california, chicago, every yao he vent thats happened every event that happened over the last year and we get the information almost immediately within two hours. We are told who the person is, what kind of gun, age, so on and so on. And here in texas here we are yet again at another incident where we are waiting a day because i would imagine theyre scared to tell us it was an ar15. We already pretty much know that. We are in a situation in in this state as if your a he living in Communist Russia the government and people like them and the Law Enforcement agencies refuse to tell us the truth as to what is going on here. It is a sad State Of Affairs we are living in. This is not the texas miracle greg abbott likes to call it. We are living in the texas nightmare. It is a nightmare that they created, the chaos they created, jake. State senator gutierrez, thank you so much as always for coming on and talking about these very difficult issues. Really appreciate it. Thank you, jake. What exactly would it take to get lawmakers here in washington, d. C. To act to try to keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have them Top Senate Democrat dick durbin for illinois joins me. Will either side avert catastrophe in the latest washingtgton standoff . Stay with us. Excuse m me . Do the r research, todd. Listen to me. Kayak searches Hundreds Ofof Travel sites to f find you great deals on flights, cars and hotels. Theyre lying to you. Whos they . Kayak . Arr open your eyes compare Hundreds Of Travel Sites at once. Kayak. Search one and done. This is our latest hearing aid packed with 20th century technology. Why beige . You know, so its almost invisible. U mean like this . How diyou do that . 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It is not clear if the president is willing to negotiate or whether the negotiations would wrap up before the u. S. Is likely to breach the debt limit in early june. Joining me now to discuss the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Dick Durbin of illinois. We have so much to talk about. Obviously lets start with the horrific news out of texas, eight People Killed after a gunman opened fire at a shopping center. Congress passed the first significant Gun Legislation in decades after the uvalde shooting. It is still obviously far short of what you think is needed. Do you think there is any appetite for any more potential bipartisan efforts to build on the law, perhaps expand the Red Flag Laws to keep guns out of the hands of people who are a danger to themselves or others, or is the message to americans who are tired of living like this simply that thats it. There is Nothing Congress is going to do . There is something more that america can do. It is called an election. If people across america are fed up with these Mass Shootings and killings and the terrible things that are happening even to our children as a result of it, theyre going to vote accordingly. We need to have that kind of revolution in thinking across america that this is unacceptable. This was not dictated by the constitution. It is a Point Of View and position of political position which makes no sense when it comes to the safety of america. Lets turn to the u. S. Supreme court, which is an area youve been focused on a lot in the last few weeks. Justice Clarence Thomas accepted years of free luxury trips from a gop donor, sold real estate to him, accepted free rent from him for his mother, allowed him to pay for his grand nephews private School Tuition much of this not disclosed at all. We also learned from the Washington Post that Justice Thomas wife accepted Tens Of Thousands of hidden payments from a Conservative Judicial Activist Leonard Leo who has been very instrumental in shaping the court. Some of your fellow democrats on capitol hill say this seems to go beyond ethical lapses and rises to the level of corrupt behavior. Is that a word you would use, corrupt . Well, i can tell you that the conclusion most people would reach is that this tangled web around justice Clarence Thomas just gets worse and worse by the day. I dont know what is going to come up next. I thought i heard it all. But disclosures about his activities just embarrasses me. The question is whether it embarrasses the Supreme Court and the Chief Justice. Chief Justice Roberts has the power in his hands to change this first thing tomorrow morning. He could announce a Code Of Conduct for the court that finally means something. He could announce the court will be subject to at least the minimal standards that apply to all other federal judges. This is the roberts court. History is going to judge him by the decision he makes on this. He has the power to make the difference. You said Justice Thomas actions call into question his objectivity when it comes to future cases. I understand this stuff should have been disclosed. It is pretty difficult to argue it shouldnt have been. But can you point to any specific action you think Justice Thomas has taken on the court that you think was influenced by any of this . Of course you can Connect The Dots and draw your own conclusions but when you have leonard leos organization sending money to thomas family, instructing Kellyanne Conway to make sure you dont disclose the justices wifes name in the process though money is going to her, you have the organization sending the money filing an amicus brief in the shelby case on voting rights, you have the votes 54. Connect the dots and say wait a minute that stinks. That sort of thing shouldnt be happening at the highest court in america. It destroys the integrity of the court. Weve seen other justices including sotomayor and gorsuch vote in the way that was good for the Publishing Company that paid them millions of dollars for their autobiographies. This is something that goes beyond Justice Thomas, right . This should be something all of the justices recuse if they have a reason to do so and all of the justices disclose everything. I dont sense any momentum on the court from any of the justices not just thomas. I keep calling on chief Justice Roberts to make a move and Say Something and solve this problem. He has the power to do it for the roberts court. Other justices can speak out as well. I will tell you, i am blind to the political or judicial philosophy of the judge. They should all be living by the standards that the rest of government lives by in terms of disclosure and avoiding conflicts of interest. So because of the separation of powers i believe you are not willing to subpoena the Chief Justice john roberts. You have indicated it is unlikely youll be able to pass any legislation that would impose an ethics code on the court, and youve said you dont think the Justice Department should investigate Justice Thomas actions. In essence arent you kind of throwing up your hands and saying the Supreme Court isnt really accountable to anybody but themselves . There is nothing you can do even though you are the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee . Not at all, jake. Let me tell you the bottom line is this. Everything is on the table. Day after day, week after week, more and more disclosures about Justice Thomas. We cannot ignore them. The thing well do first obviously is gather the evidence. The information we need to draw our conclusions. I am not ruling out anything. I say the judicial conference which has received some information from the Chief Justice, is undergoing its own investigation as i understand. So there are active efforts under way as there should be. We need to change the image of this court at this point it is at the lowest ebb in history. Are you willing to subpoena leonard leo or harlan crowe . Obviously you wont subpoena Supreme Court justices. Everything is on the table. One of the reasons that you are a little hamstrung is because your colleague Dianne Feinstein democrat of california is still out sick. Senator Schumers Office says she told him she is returning this week. Her office has not confirm that. As you know Senator Feinstein has missed dozens of key votes. Leaving all the rest in limbo. Questions about her ability to perform her job were being raised years before her recent bout with shingles which we obviously hope she recovers from soon. At what point do the tens of millions of voters currently lacking full representation in the senate from california, at what point do they matter more than the feelings of a colleague whose health has been in question for a long time . I can just tell you Senator Feinstein is my friend and colleague of many years. She has gone through a lot. She lost her husband last year and had real medical issues that are problematic for her at her age at this point. I hope she returns and i hope it is this week. We need her. It is a challenge in the Senate Judiciary committee to do our business. For example, you raise the question of a subpoena. I havent reached any conclusion on that. But if we go down that path we need a majority on the committee. Right now with her absence it is a 1010 committee and the majority is not there. A proxy vote doesnt count in that circumstance. So it is a complicated situation. I hope she does what is best for her and her family and the state of california and makes a decision soon as to whether she is coming back. I mean, all due respect, sir. You and your fellow democrats were very ginger and polite when it came to Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg and not pushing her to retire when you had a democratic majority in the senate. How did that work out for you . How did it work out for roe v. Wade . Well, i can tell you that you can play these out and try to guess what the Court Opinions resulting from it will be. The bottom line is, though, we have in the past had members of the senate, i can think of a handful as i sit here, democrats and republicans, who have been absent because of medical conditions for lengthy periods of time. I want to treat Dianne Feinstein fairly. I want to be sensitive to her Family Situation and her personal situation. I dont want to say that she is going to be put under more pressure than others have been in the past. The bottom line is the Business Of The Committee and the senate is affected by her absence. President biden will meet with house and Senate Leaders at the wows this week to try to avert this catastrophic u. S. Default. 43 Senate Republicans including republican Leader Mcconnell signed a letter yesterday vowing to oppose raising the debt ceiling without, quote, substantive spending and budget reforms, unquote. Are you confident at all that a deal can be reached to prevent a default . To think they are playing the default card with the United States economy is irresponsible. It is basically irresponsible. We put 13 billion through the federal Deposit Corporation into one bank last weekend to keep it afloat for fear it would trigger recession. If they play this card and bring us to the brink on the default and not paying americas debts for the first time in history itll have a devastating impact on the economy. Businesses will fail. Jobs will be lost. Families will see 401 k s diminish in value. This strategy from my Point Of View is totally irresponsible. I hope those 43 people are thinking about the consequences in their states and this nation if they go forward. Senator durbin, democrat of illinois, good to see you. Thanks for joining us to today. Thanks, jake. You dont see this much. The Top Republican and top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee together working together taking their committee overseas. Well talk to them about what they are learning about a growing threat to the u. S. , next. Baby to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. We went to safelite. Com. Theres no one else wed trust. Their experts replaced our windshield, and recalibrated our cars advanced safety system. They focus on our safety. So we can focus on this little guy. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. Haha it was me the whole time. Whoohoo well done, maam. 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Joining me now the top two members of the House Intelligence Committee, the republican chairman mike turner of ohio and the ranking democrat jim himes of connecticut. Gentlemen, thank you so much for doing this. We really appreciate it. Chairman turner, let me start with you because you both met with israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. What can you tell us about the meeting and did you express any concerns to netanyahu over his push to overhaul israels legal system, weaken it, not to mention including extremists in his cabinet . All this has caused tremendous unrest domestically in israel. Right. Our trip comes just on the heels of speaker Kevin Mccarthy being here. Our focus largely being from the Intelligence Committee on the relations between the United States and israel and how we can help strengthen the Security Situation in the area. We also stopped in jordan and egypt and in talking to all three countries all were very much encouraging the United States on a policy basis to have a stronger role thinking there are real opportunities to increase the Security Situation here but at the same time painting a picture that there are serious threats in the area and that the United States should be playing a role. Congressman himes, Benjamin Netanyahu recently told cnn a credible Military Threat is the only way to stop iran from its Nuclear Weapons program and the like. Netanyahu vowed to do everything in his power to prevent that country from developing Nuclear Weapons. Negotiations on Irans Nuclear program have been on the back down burner for months if not years. Do you think the white house needs to treat this as a higher priority and based on your conversations overseas how close is iran to building a Nuclear Weapon . The Prime Minister as every time i met with him, probably three times, was very, very focused on iran and probably said nine or ten times that it was intolerable for him to imagine an iran with a Nuclear Weapon. That is not news of course if youve spent time around beebe netanyahu. We know where he is on the jcpoa the reality is whatever you thought of the deal when it was in effect the iranians were not making, enriching more uraniuim. Now they are. The problem of course is that with iran so brutally abusing its own people i think the prospect for negotiations arguably further than ever before. Were in a little bit of a fix right now because we dont have a lot of leverage. The Prime Minister is of course where he always has been which is enormously hawkish. There is not a lot of diplomatic tools available to address the challenge of the possibility of a nuclear iran. Jake, one thing he made clear is that he does think that iran can be deterred. They do believe there will be Military Action against them, a surgical type strike to diminish their ability to pursue Nuclear Weapons, that could have a Chilling Effect and stall their programming. He doesnt want that opportunity to be missed of the understanding that israel and or the United States together or separate might be willing to take Military Action to forestall iran making The Next Step to a nuclear state. You alluded in the previous answer about leadership opportunities, perhaps even Leadership Vacuums in the region. China as you know recently brokered a major deal between iran and saudi arabia and the Washington Post is reporting the construction has resumed at a suspected Chinese Military base in the uae. Do you think china is now playing a more active Leadership Role in the middle east than the United States is . Well, all three countries that were in, jordan, israel, and egypt indicated their own steps to diminish chinas foot print or their ability to make inroads in their country. Specifically citing diminishing their technology, access to their data, or telecommunications systems. They did all cite chinas increased influence in the area as a need for the United States to step up its influence. Everyone is watching this very closely and seeing this as an opportunity for the United States to not only play a greater role for security but also a greater role in keeping china at bay. One thing was very clear. All three countries. The leadership of all three countries was very, very clear with us. That they view the u. S. Alliance as indispensable and that they would much rather work with us than with the chinese or quite frankly with the russians. We heard an interesting story today from the president of egypt, you know, and this is an illustration of how complicated this region is, he said when the United States conditioned some of its arms sales and shipments to egypt and at the same time with pushing egypt to step up its work against terrorism he said to us, what do you really want me to do . That is what initiated some conversations he had with the russians about weapons. Then we got angry about that. That just illustrates how complicated this region is and how challenging the diplomacy and our Strategic Thinking about the region necessarily is. So what youre alluding to there has to do with the classified documents that leaked from that operation in massachusetts suggesting egypt planned to supply rockets for russias war in ukraine before changing gears and arming ukraine instead after pressure from the u. S. You did confront him over that then, Congressman Himes . So that didnt come up directly and needless to say neither mike nor i are going to get into, with a foreign leader, what may or may not be United States intelligence. I can tell you and i think the chairman would agree that based on president ccs tone today i am very doubtful he was ever considering arming the russians. Egypt needs to import a lot of wheat. Apparently governments fall in egypt if there is not enough relatively cheap wheat. They used to import that from ukraine and russia. On one hand i dont really believe he was seriously considering sending arms to russia. On the other hand he cant afford to alienate the nation that provides the commodity that allows his country to eat. Chairman turner on the matter of russia, obviously this last week the kremlin is accusing both the United States and ukraine of directing alleged Drone Attacks on the kremlin in an attempt to assassinate putin. The white house said it doesnt know who is behind the attack, called the accusations of american involvement ridiculous. Ukraine denied it as well. Who do you think is behind the a alleged drone attack on the kremlin . The claims are clearly ludicrous and also the, i believe they are an attempt to distract everyone in russia from the fact that Vladimir Putin is losing horribly in ukraine and he needs to withdraw. He needs to allow ukraine to restore their territorial borders and the integrity of their country. I do think as we met with each of the leaders of these three countries that they do see what russia has done in ukraine as diminishing russia overall, as both a power or an influencer around the world. They see them now with this Brutal Campaign in ukraine and the fact that theyve not been successful as impacting russias overall reputation. So the Treasury Department, Congressman Himes, the Treasury Department says the u. S. Could default as early as june 1st if congress doesnt raise the debt ceiling and the director of National Intelligence Aviril Haynes told the senate the russia and china would try to exploit the fall out from a u. S. Default showing we are not able to function as a democracy. Is this a National Security threat this debt crisis and have any World Leaders expressed concerns about it, Congressman Himes . So it has not come up in the meetings we had in jordan and israel and egypt. But of course the russians and the chinese would seek to exploit it. You know, the United States has never really come close to defaulting on its debt before so it is hard to imagine what that might look like and of course could be catastrophic. Frankly the full faith and credit of the United States is the bed rock on which the full Financial System is built. If that comes into question, all kinds of things could happen. The u. S. Dollar could its position is the global Reserve Currency that could be eroded. People may choose to invest in the United Kingdom or European Union rather than the United States. Im not sure either the chairman or i know what the solution looks like in the coming weeks but there better be a solution. Chairman turner do you think the House Republicans would consider a temporary extension on the debt ceiling so President Biden and Speaker Mccarthy have more time to try to hammer out some sort of deal . As Speaker Mccarthy said the house has done its job. We voted to raise the debt limit. The president is doing this unrealistic position where he is saying that spending has nothing to do with debt. Of course you dont get debt unless you are spending more than youre bringing in. The president needs to come to the table and negotiate with the speaker and come up with a plan that the American Public, overwhelmingly the polls show, the American Public want washington to rein in spending. The president needs to make some concessions. Do you agree with your colleague there Congressman Himes that it is a National Security threat not solving this problem . I think if the president fails to negotiate with congress and has continued out of control spending that threatens our economy that it is a National Security threat. He has the ability to sit down and do that and for us to come to a deal and agreement. That is what the American Public wants and what i think theyll require from congress and the president. I think he needs to get on with it. The chairman and ranking democrat on the House Select Committee on intelligence, congressman mike turner of ohio and congressman jim himes of connecticut, thanks so much for doing this interview. We appreciate it. Thank you, jake. Thank you, jake. A new poll shows Warning Signs for both biden and trump. Well dig into that next. Plus is Governor Ron Desantis looking to reset his campaign and could it work . My panel is here. Stay with us. wheezing asthma isnt pretty. 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Obviously there is no appetite in congress for the kind of sweeping measures democrats would like to pass. What about Something Like aggressive Red Flag Laws where people can try to keep guns out of the hands of people going through crises. Is there any possibility of bipartisanship there . I think there is, jake. One thing i am seeing every day in cess esis a renewed interest in addressing this national trauma. This goes well beyond the carnage we see, bodies stacked up behind an outlet mall. Look at all the people flying the mall, the trauma that reverberates around our country, the Mental Health crisis rising in our young people who are forced to bear the burden of gun violence in our country which is now the number one killer of children in the United States of america. This is a uniquely american problem. We dont have to live like this. I hear from people every single day in a Swing District like mine. Republicans alike who are ready to do something about this problem. I am ready to work on it as well. What do you think . It is terrible. And it is tragic. And i think that i dont think there is a frontal way with gun control that politically will work in any time soon. So if there are ways to work the problem i think it is going to be in the realm of Mental Health, Red Flag Laws are an important thing. I am very much in favor of those. Part of the problem is these Mass Shootings are a form of social contagion where people are, have a switch flipped. When they see this and they copy cat and we saw similar things with Political Assassinations In The 60s And 70s and then it sort of stopped. I dont think we can wait for it to stop but understanding it is a socially complex thing and doing things that can help rather than hurt i think that is the approach to take. This is shameful. The number one killer of children. That is obscene. If it was the flu we would find a vaccine. This is an example of the corrosive impact of money in politics. The Tennessee Legislature actually went out of session without passing Gun Legislation despite the fact the mothers from that school where the shooting occurred were there every day for the last two weeks begging them to just take up legislation. What do they do . They actually went out of session a week early because the gun lobby pushed them and said dont you dare consider any legislation i have to say i respectfully disagree money is the issue here. I think this is a cultural issue. People feel an attachment to guns that is beyond a 5,000 the nra is bankrupt. It is voters who care about gun rights. They still put pressure on so this is policies the American People support according to a recent fox poll in april. 87 support universal background checks, 81 raising the age to 21 for the purchase of all guns. 80 Mental Health checks, Red Flag Laws. Those dont seem like unreasonable intrusions on the constitutional right. If it was really money in politics or the impact of the gun lobby the reality is democrats had control of the house and senate and the white house last congress. It didnt pass, Gun Control Legislation didnt pass. It is not so easy as we want to portray it. I also think the reality is that this year there have been 13,000 deaths by gun violence. The vast majority, 95 of them, are inner cities. We have some of the strictest control laws in the country. We are not being tough on crime in general. I think we can have a much stronger impact if we get serious about getting tough on crime in inner cities. Last congress we did pass a once in a generation Safer Communities bill to combat this. I personally cosponsored eight different pieces of common sense Gun Control Legislation that has the majority of americans backing it and republicans refuse to bring it to the floor. We can preserve the Second Amendment and protect our children. This is not a zero sum game. Mark is right in the sense that the ar15 Mass Shootings get attention for obvious reasons but it is the one offs in the inner city that are actually more deadly and bigger threats to the survival of america. What have republicans done about it . Their Debt Ceiling Proposal defunds the police, cuts Tens Of Thousands of Law Enforcement jobs. Stop it. Come on. To be fair they havent been specific about any of the cuts which is not a compliment. In reality what are the republicans doing about it . The democrats are out there with bills that will increase Law Enforcement on the streets, funding the police. There have been plenty of studies that Show Crime Rates are higher in red states than blue states. Lets talk facts if were going down that road. I am not saying money in politics is the only reason. Right. Im saying with the numbers you just showed about the will of the American People, there should be more you would think, republicans should be more willing to come to the table and pass legislation with democrats i want to change the subject if i can because we have a lot to discuss this morning. There is a new poll out from abc news and the Washington Post regarding Mental Sharpness. Do biden and trump have the Mental Sharpness to serve . 32 of the American People say biden does not. 63 im sorry. 32 say he has the Mental Sharpness. 63 say he does not. Me not being so sharp this morning. Then donald trump 54 say yes he is sharp enough to be president and 43 say no. You know, that is not a good number for President Biden. Twothirds of the American People say he is not sharp enough to be president. And yet he is doing the job. He is getting record victories. We got Gun Legislation. We just had a great jobs report on friday. This is why we have a campaign. This will be tested in the context of this campaign. You also in that poll have people, the majority of people who think that donald trump should face accountability for his actions. So look. We know this is an issue. The white house knows it. The campaign knows it. We are off to a great start. Were raising money. He has a great record to run on. It is not surprising that individuals would have concerns. President biden would be one of the oldest president s ever elected. The oldest. Not even close. 86 at the end of the second term. People tend not to believe what theyve never seen. As the first woman to represent my part of the country i can tell you that for certain. Here is the thing. This election is going to still be a referendum on whose vision for america people want. Do they want the extremism of Todays Republican Party allowing our children to be obliterated in classrooms rescinding our rights or do they want a pragmatic, steady hand at the wheel, that is increasing jobs, improving infrastructure, and growing and expanding our freedoms . In districts like West Michigan we saw what the answer was in 2022. That all sounds great. Great talking points, ra ra, democrat stuff. Well get good republican stuff. What a profoundly unserious moment america is living in. We got one guy who is the likely nominee on the republican side who is that a majority of americans think should be charged with crimes including trying to steal an election. And we have another nominee who does not have all of the marbles to be president any more, that is too old to run for office. The party is taking enormous risk putting this guy out there an owe the campaign trail. When one fall, one bad moment, could erase all possible trust in the guy. Much like a replay of 2016 where we had two candidates that were so unpopular, they each had a chance to lose to the other. They are so unfit i think the Polling Supports what jonah is saying. People want neither. Perhaps you have another idea for a better republican mom. I think the reality is the polling shows on the policies, it is the lowest part so far of his presidency. So i think americans are asking for someone different. This is just in case, mark used to work for Vice President mike pence. Thank you for being here. Great to have you. Well be right back. I can hear. Breyers Natural Vanilla is made with 100 grade a milk a and cream. And only sustainably farmed v vanilla. Better starts with breyers. May lead to severe vision loss and if youre taking a multivitamin alone, you may be missing a criticaliece. Preservision. 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