sanders have been pushing, the medicare for all. you like your health insurance with your company? we'll take it away and the government will run it. that is not polling well. it is a good piece in the "new york times" about this. "the new york times." they have the headline. democrats, stop helping trump in the 2020 election, it is too important. >> i think again looking at this if you look back at 2016 i think the strategists were saying the same thing about the republican party when you had someone come out of nowhere with no political experience and donald trump started getting traction. sometimes the coverage doesn't actually reflect the connectivity and having worked firsthand in iowa, i saw this where people didn't necessarily see the traction that we were gaining on some of those issues. so i think it's interesting to watch some of the metamorphosis of these candidates as they grow. i don't disagree they'll have to have a better answer on healthcare.