white house and he was running our country. people in iowa want to get back to that. look, no disrespect to ron desantis, nikki haley and vivek ramaswamy, but they've never done this job. donald trump has. so the pressure in iowa is not on president trump, it's on these other three candidates. can they demonstrate any ability to get close to donald trump in the actual result because if they cannot, maria, this thing is game, set and match because donald trump, in my view, is going to win new hampshire, he's going to win south carolina decisively, and we're just going to run away and get the whole nomination. maria: well, he could get the nomination locked up then by middle of march given the calendar of these primaries. but who's the most -- who has the most to lose here? let's walk through what we're seeing in iowa. nikki haley is at 20%, and the rest follow her. obviously, president trump with a commanding lead, but what walk us through your thoughts in terms of nikki haley and ron desantis. where do they go now? >> well, i think ron desantis