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Autopilot and we will be able to fund our responsibilities. So here we are in the house, being blackmailed, being blackmailed to vote for an appropriations bill. Not happy at all. Chief Congressional Correspondent mike emanuel live on capitol hill. Mike, this now moves to the senate. They bought themselves a couple of days here. There will definitely be vocal opposition from the left there as well, right . Reporter martha, no question about that. You can expect possible 2016 president ial contender to be front and center. Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren came out early against the package because it would weaken doddfrank banking regulation. Warren urged her allies in the house and senate to stand up and fight. A vote for this bill is a developed for future taxpayer bailouts of wall street. When the next bailout comes, a lot of people will look back to this vote to see who was responsible for putting the government pack on the hook back on the hook to bail out wall street. Reporter to be clear, you will also expect to hear some opposition on the right. Oklahoma senator tom coburn who is retiring, is probably going through that 1600 page bill looking for what he would consider goodies and wasteful spending, martha. Martha no doubt. Dissatisfaction on the right with this whole thing as well. It took a very complicated alliance to get this through the house side, an interesting one, truly. Reporter march that mo question about. That we were essentially stuck here on capitol hill. You had the president and Vice President working phones to work on House Democrats. Chief of staff on the hill trying to twist arms as well. The change seemed to come when House Democratic whip steny hoyer split with nancy pelosi and urged his colleagues to support it. I have concluded that it is better for us to pass this cromnibus as euphemistically referred to, to defeat it. I urge my members to vote for this crummy bus. While some cromnibus. Some members objected to this and that we did it in bipartisan fashion and its a good bill. Reporter we should get a better sense of timing in the senate later this morning, mart. Martha thank you, mike. Bill the old cromnibus. Many conservative republicans are not happy with this. It delays the fight over executive action and immigration. Utah senator mike lee argues that the spending bill contains breaks for big business but not everybody else. Again we have special favors for wall street and for k street and no real special favors for main street or middle class americans. Well talk with karl rove about that and what Speaker Boehners grand strategy might be at work here and whether anything in wrong ton has changed after two elections. Martha has anything changed after two elections . Do you have faith in this next congress and what they will do . Send us a tweet billhemmer, marthamaccallum. Well see what youre saying about it. Bill democrats have lost 75 seats in the house over two midterms. Theyre down what, 14 senators. The same period of time. Yeah. Bill what will you get for that america . Well talk with karl rove. Four minutes past. Cia director john brennan defending the agency against a Senate Report critical of enhanced interrogation tactics. Brennan reminding people of the climate after 9 11 admitting mistakes early on and questioned the views of the report including whether the program led to useful intelligence. Cause and effect of relationship between use of eits and useful information subsequently provided by the detainee is in my view unknowable. But for someone to say there was no intelligence of value of use, that came from those detainees, once they were subjected to eits, i think that is, lacks any foundation at all. Bill lets talk about that with steven hayes, senior write letter, Weekly Standard, Fox News Contributor. Good morning to you. Good morning, bill. Bill you wrote a piece today called, tortured report. Democrats acting if they were in the dark on this the evidence suggests otherwise. Explain that. Why . No question. Look at comments people like nancy pelosi and Jay Rockefeller made in public, distancing themselves from the report and from the briefings about the details of the techniques that were use, just doesnt hold up. If you go back and look at cia provided timelines and public statements from people like Jay Rockefeller at the time in support of aggressive interrogations, it strains credulity to believe behind the scenes they were opposing these things but in public they were saying supportive things. Bill what do you think about brennan had to say . Is he trying to have it both ways . He is definitely trying to have it both ways. Think one second what john brennan is trying to say it makes no sense. On one hand he is saying, look, we dont know there is cause effect relationship between the use of these techniques and valuable information that was provided. But if you peel that back a little bit we could know that you had detainees formally resistant, uncooperative. They were put through the enhanced interrogation techniques and cale out on the other end and were later cooperative. Brennan would have you believe that was a mere coincidence. I think what brennan is trying to do is reconcile the president s view, the president s decision to stop the use of these techniques with the senates complaint that they didnt work at all and all of that against a backdrop that he knows that they worked and that the cia believes they worked. Bill he still needs people to work for them and under him at a critical time. Right. Bill rich lowery writes this on the screen about dianne feinstein. The Senate Intelligence committee spent roughly 50 million in the cia and could not find Michael Haydens phone number. It portrays general hayden as a liar and deceived the committee about the Interrogation Program yet the committee could not be bothered to interview him because it didnt bother to view anyone. He calls this depiction of the cia cartoonish are steve. Cartoonish might be kind. That is the major problem with this report, it was not an attempt ever to be a fair report and serious examination of the costs an benefits of these kinds of enhanced interrogation techniques. One of the things we discuss in the article we have out in the Weekly Standard this morning is the use of an email that senate democrats, the authors of the report, used selectively of the they take one part of the email that supports what they say but they totally omit a second part of the email that not only contradicts the claims theyre making about the effectiveness of these techniques but actually invalidates their argument all together but they just leave that out. That is not intellectually honest. That is breathtakingtual dishons nobody any good. Bill wow. Steve hayes out of washington. Appreciate your time. The nation dealing with the most powerful storm in five years that is slamming the west coast. Its a scene in someplaces along the coast. It is called the Pineapple Express and it is knocking homes right off of their foundations. The storm bringing Hurricane Force wind in some areas. More than nine inches of rain, stranded motorists left hundreds of thousands of people with no power in their homes. Here is what it looked like north of San Francisco. Crews rescuing people from nearly four feet of water there. For some folks all of this comes as no surprise. The water comes down from the hills. And, if it is high tide, comes from the delta. And we happened to be probably on the lowest part of the, the street. Tough spot to be sure. William la jeunesse reporting from malibu. William, this storm is really causing a lot of trouble obviously for people in california. Reporter it is a massive storm, martha. And we are really feeling the brunt of it right now. The rain started about two hours ago. Im here in malibu. Were here because of the rockslides and mudslides. That is always a threat. We had winds last night around midnight up to 71 miles an hour in l. A. County. Lets take a video from camarillo where i spoke to you from last week. Camarillo springs undermannedder to evacuation because of a mudslide there. There is so much rain coming down so quickly, up to an inch an hour, the ground just can not handle it. We have flash flood warnings in los angeles, Santa Barbara and ventura counties. This all began yesterday up north in San Francisco. About 100,000 people there went without power. They were getting around Sonoma County in kayaks. Fallen trees and Power Outages and traffic nightmare just not in San Francisco yesterday but coming in today, several freeways in los angeles are closed entirely. And you can imagine what nightmare that is for commuters. Martha . Martha its a nightmare. Is there any upside to this, is it a positive impact on the drought there or not really . Yeah. It is going to help a great deal. It is a slowmoving statewide soaker exactly what we need after two years of the driest years on record. Of course the key will be the snow pack. Were getting up to nine inches of rain up north and several feet of snow and that is really the water bank for california. That will be critical. They will be looking at those stations in the sierra mountains later today. But california, december, january, february, as we get 90 of the our moisture that is usable. Right now were getting it down here. Its a good thing. No fatalities, no injuries reported. Back to you. Martha william, thank you very much. Bill seeing some folks in kayaks out there, in the parking lot of a strip mall. Amazing. Martha terrible. Bill call it a early Christmas Gift for drivers. Prices at pump dropping by the day but could cheaper gas be bad for the economy . Stuart varney will sort through that in a moment. Martha talking about bad experiences at the airport, hopefully you didnt have as bad as these people. Why they were forced to wait for hours and hours just tapping their toes looking at their phones on the tarmac. Bill thank goodness for the phone. So interesting new fox polling showing divide other grand jury decisions in the Michael Brown case in ferguson and eric garner chokehold case in new york city. Why the majority agree with one but disagree with the other. Well debate it. Bill have you seen this on rice in america . A new poll shows voters are split how grand juries handle two deaths of unarmed black men by white police officers. Refusing to charge officers in the shootings death of Michael Brown in ferguson or the chokehold death of eric garner here in new york. A fox poll shows this. A majority of americans agree, 55 with the grand jurys decision in the Michael Brown matter. In the new york chokehold case, 57 however, say the grand jury got it wrong. Juan williams, fox news political analyst. And Mary Catherine ham editoratlarge for hotair. Com and Fox News Contributor. Good morning to both of you. Wow, juan, does this surprise you . No, i think it fits what weve seen in just on the street public reaction, interviews and of course, im here in washington, bill. What i hear from the politicians. I think its pretty clear that without any kind of consensus opinion as to what exactly took place in the streets of ferguson, you have had people say you have got to believe in the system and structure. That plays to the traditionalist views of republicans. That is what you see. But in the case of the videotape in the new york incident with the choking, i think there people were kind of surprised. If you look at the poll numbers, you will see that republicans are pretty split about that one and overall, the American People and whites in general think that it was the wrong decision. Bill mk, it is a split decision essentially. Quickly, does this surprise you . Im not surprised for this reason. What you see here is the American People i think evaluating these two cases based on the evidence that they have in front of them and doing quite a bit more soberly than much of the media has done. Two cases are not exactly the same because they happened around the same time and have the same demographics and you think people who are not in media trying to make that connection are noticing that. And i think, obviously garner was a more clearcut situation and that is why people are responding to it in that way. Bill lets broaden our discussion. Perhaps this is a a bigger issue. We asked the question about Race Relations in america since the president has been in office. 62 , almost 2 3, believe its worse. We also whether you asked or approve or disapprove, the majority, 51 disapprove of Race Relations in america under this presidency. Mk, why has it not gotten better . Well, i would probably be on the side that says it hasnt gotten better and probably based on race or belief, ideology have completely Different Reasons why it has not gotten better. There are many in the minorities in the country say all these conservative white people, they just dont like black people and why theyre mad at obama. A a bunch of white conservatives people say youre racist against him because you dont like his policy. Around people in the middle are happy to exploit that divide. Then youve got well, the most unifying of figures used as race liaison in the white house, mr. Al sharpton. I dont think theyre doing a lot of help there. Bill juan, youve written books on this stuff and i dont know back in 2008 and 2009 if you would even have an trouble to predict that numbers like this would come in on race in america today. Has the president , has the president failed on this, juan . You know, failed is an interesting word. First of all let me say i think there are some larger trend here we have to take into account. I think there are more minorities in the country than ever, more than 1 3 of the population easily and headed toward half. Secondly there are more immigrants in the country. I think politics as Mary Catherine was referring to have become rashallized because Republican Party is overwhelmingly white and Democratic Party stands as representative of the minorities in the country. I think on all those fronts, when you talk about, is it a difference over policy . Do you not like obama because he is black, obama has some responsibility in the poll that you have, bill. You will see most people think he shouldnt get more involved but you know what . Bill you know, juan, so many people in 2009 were saying it would get better. Democrats and republicans see it differently and perhaps not surprisingly blacks and whites see it differently. Mk, go. Yeah. I mean i think was one of those people who did not vote for obama but thought, you know it is good that people have a good feeling about america and after he was elected. Now i dont think that America Wasser retrievably racist country before he was elected and nice people changed their mind in days afterwards. The bloom is of at rose, part of it because the white house is happy to politicize these divides. That being said as juan said, it is not the president s job necessary to fix Race Relations in america but i thought he probably missed some opportunities. Juan, give you last word on that. I think if youre asking the first black president to get involved in every racial incident comes up youre asking too much. That willmott help. That is what people are saying for the most part. We dont really need you here. But it would be better with civil rights leaders who are more credible than sharpton and that bunch. There is all this call for obama to speak out because it looks like were rudderless on that front in many ways. Bill very interesting. Juan, Mary Catherine, have a great weekend. 20 minutes past the hour, martha. Martha we all of course remember 9 11. That was the question at the top of the cia director john brennan speaking yesterday when he asked reporters, when he faced reporters for their questions, why he says the context of time of 9 11 is very significant. Also trapped on the tarmac for eight hours, martha. What caused the travel meltdown. It was hot. And the way we were treated was like we were a heard of cows. Herd of cows. We were herded into this selection when we were allowed off the plane. Hi. Im new ensure active clear protein drink. Clear huh . Im not juice or fancy water. Ive got 8 grams of protein. New ensure active clear protein. 8 grams protein. Zero fat. Ensure. Take life in. Bill a trip they would rather forget. A united flight from San Francisco to sydney, australia. There was debris on the runway in sydney. They diverted the plane to canberra. That was okay until the passengers sat on the tarmac for eight hours of the plane eventually ran out of food and toilet paper. Just about everything. For a while we were watching movies but they shut the movie system down. It was a comedy of sequence and errors. Who do you blame . Bill well at least they had sunshine of the australian airport officials apologizing saying that safety though, still remains their top priority. Martha so folks planning to hit the road for christmas will likely be seeing lower prices at pump. Gas prices dropping yet again. National average dipping to 2. 60 a gallon according to aaa as the price of oil is been in free fall, dropping below 59 a barrel. That is low, folks. That is the lowest it has been in five years. So while drivers may like this, is the economy taking a hit . Joining us from our sister network, Fox Business Networks stuart varney. Do you think is is good or bad. When gas tumble is it good or bad . Im on the side it is wonderful. It is flatout plus for every singleets behind the wheel of a car or truck. You are putting money in your pocket. The average will go down some more because the price of oil keeps falling. Were at 58 a barrel today and falling. The price of gas is going to go below 2. 50 by christmas, if not further below 2. 50. You have actually got a gas war in progress today in oklahoma city. Where the cm foodmart is selling regular gas for 1. 88 a gallon and there are four or five other stations competing, pushing it down. Gas war. I havent seen it in years and years and years. Martha i think it is incredible. There is the other side of the coin. Martha right. There are some casualties, if you own a oil stock you have lost a lot of money. If youre a driller you will not drill so much in the future so you will lay some people off. Martha that will hurt Drilling Companies that make machinery and all down the line. Banks are getting worried because russia is in trouble financially because of low oil prices. Brazil is in trouble. A lot of banks lent brazil a lot of money. They could have a problem there. We have deflation, believe it or not, that prices are falling, not just for gas but other areas. Prices are falling. Thats not necessarily good for the economy. But look, if you add it all up, the pluses, the minus, i come down firmly on the side of the pluses. Kind of stimulating ultimately because people have more money in their wallets to spend on other things. Likely down the road we will likely start to do that. It shows were becoming more and more energy independent. Were Still Producing a lot of oil, saudi arabia, they hope things will even out for them, but we dont need them as much anymore and that is big plus,s,s it not. America is already the largest producer of natural gas in the world. This week we passed annual rate of Oil Production of nine Million Barrels a day. We havent been there in 20 years. Pretty soon well be higher than russia, higher than saudi arabia. Energy independent. Its a wonderful thing. Martha sound like it. Stuart, thank you very much. Martha, good as always. Martha dont miss vann any on the fox business network,. If you dont know where to find it, fox fox fox business. Com chl finder. Bill we always knoll where to find him. Martha we can track him down. Bill a hollywood power player playing damage control. She is apologizing for remarks she made about president obama. Martha a very uncomfortable story. The head of the cia defending his agency in the wake of that scary report on interrogation. The solemn rows of stars on the Memorial Wall at cia honor those who have given their lives to protect ours. Our intelligence professionals are patriots and we are safer because of their Heroic Service and sacrifices. Im an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. So my buddy here is going to help me find it. Here we go. Woo who, woah, woah, woah. Its out there somewhere spreading the word about americas favorite potatoes heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart associations go red for women campaign. If you see it i hope youll let us know. Always look for the grown in idaho seal. Bill we go 9 32 in new york. Fox news alert in the middle east. Were watching reports of an attack on the west bank. Apparently a palestinian man throwing a chemical substance believed to be acid at an israeli family. A man and four children are injured. The suspect allegedly posed as a hitchhiker and then attacked the family when they slowed down their vehicle. The attacker then shot in the leg by a witness and arrested. More on those developments as we get them here. 9 32. Cia director john brennan defending his agency in the wake of the scathing Senate Report, the democratic Senate Report and socalled use of torture or enhanced interrogation techniques on terror suspects. During those comments he reminded that the tactics were conceived when the nation was realing from the 9 11 attacks and that the cia was given the task of responding. The events of 9 11 will be forever seared into the memories of all americans who bore witness to the single greatest tragedy to befall our homeland in recent history. Our nation ached, it cried and it prayed. And in our pain we pledged to come together as one and to do what we could to prevent the usama bin laden and his killing machine from ever carrying out another attack against our beautiful country. Never again we vowed, never again. And as has been the case throughout its then 54year history, cia was looked to for answers. Not only to the questions on the threats we faced but also to questions about what we were going to do be to stop future attacks. Kt mcfarland former assistant deputy secretary of defense in the Reagan Administration and security analyst now. He tried to walk the line yesterday, defending his agency and at the same time disagreeing with a little bit with the president and his report. Im not a big john brennan fan but i think he did a terrific job. He was able to be part of the president s administration. He stopped these activities. He didnt call them torture. He defended his agency saying look at the historical context. The crucial part which the democrat torture report said that we got no information, brennan corrected the record and said we did get a lot of information. He didnt make the direct caution and effect link. He didnt say we got the information because they were tortured, but the people with enhanced interrogation gave up Important Information including information that led to the hunt of for usama bin laden. Martha we spent last few days going through this exercise. Im wondering what it was for . No recommendations were made in this report. Right. Martha why drag owl of this out and spend 40 million, and i still want to know how this cost 40 million. This was generated by Congressional Staff who get as salary doing their job coming to work every day. What we get out of this . I think we got all bad stuff. Hears why. We politicized intelligence. America is so politicized, washington is so politicized on every issue but one place it was always sacred was Intelligence Community and armed forces of the we never used those for political gain. Martha great point. Here is what this sets up, democrats being evicted from the senate and theyre smashing windows on their way out the door as i have said. What they will now do, having democrat report against a Bush Administration intelligence decisions, youre now setting this up for five, six years, from now when a new president , a new group comes into congress and they say, wait a minute. Lets go revisit those obama drone strikes where were those constitutional . Were those effective . Didnt those kill a lot of innocent people . Havent those in fact caused more problems . Maybe we should get all that information out in the public. So i think that the really the big takeaway and big legacy is this politicizing the Intelligence Community. Martha which is such a shame as you say, that should be the one thing as a nation we can get behind. That we need to give them the space to do what they need to do. As everyone remembers, they were charged with a very serious task. That was to find the people that did this to us and help move them into the direction that would eventually bring them into justice but another thing, bill mcgun points out in a New York Post piece this morning. Democrats had a long time to do this. If they wanted to bring forward legislation that would eliminate or outlaw wart boarding an techniques they were unhappy with, they had a long tie to do that. Why havent they done that . It is political thing. Do they criticize while they standoffs for people that say, i remember september 11th, i remember that i think anything was justified. The timing is suspicious. I think senate and congress has the right and responsibility for oversight. If there were, if there were some sadists or torturers, we should find them and frankly prosecute them. But do it privately. Dont do it for the world to see. Dont do it so the North Koreans and iranians and russians and chinese can come to criticize america for human rights violations. Department of justice three times had the opportunity to bring charges. They havent. Here again they said were releasing this huge report but were not going to bring any charges against anybody. That sends such a mixed message. Just spinning it forward for one moment here, look ahead to the 2016 president ial election. Debate environment, right, when questions are asked of Hillary Clinton or whoever the democratic nominee is, what would you do in this situation . How would you handle it . The backdrop could be more isis. Are at backdrop could be more terrorist attacks. What happens, let me ask this. God forbid it does happen, what if there is another terrorist attack . And somehow it is because jihadists were sharpening their blades thinking, lets go get americans because look how terrible they are. Where does that blame lie . Martha well see. Kt, thank you very much. Good to have you as always. Bill go navy. Beat army. Bill are we allowed to say that . Martha kt on the set. Better say nothing but that. Jack keane is not around. Bill well get keanes view next hour. Severe weather slamming the west coast. A powerful storm causing dangerous flooding. Evacuations have been ordered for some. The latest where a fierce storm is heading now. Martha . Martha republicans not in control of the senate yet but battles are already breaking out in congress. What is the gops gameplan come january . Well talk to karl rove about that coming up next. The senate would just do its job we wouldnt be here in this process. We wouldnt have these opportunities for people to shortcircuit the normal legislative procedures. Get fastacting, longlasting relief from heartburn with it neutralizes stomach acid and is the only product that forms a protective barrier that helps keep stomach acid in the stomach where it belongs. For fastacting, longlasting relief. Try gaviscon®. Martha fire on a luxury cruise ship. It was docked in st. Lucia. A crew member and two contractors were killed. More than 600 passengers were able to leave the ship without injuries. The insignia departed san juan, puerto rico, for a 10day cruise and was to finish in miami. The fire started in the engine room and was then contained. Say fight tooth and nail and fighting tooth and nail would have been to put our amendment on the floor. In three weeks, were all going to raise our right hand and swear to defend the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic, and that was an abdication of our duty. To fund something we believe is unconstitutional. Bill last night with sean hannity, republican congressman matt salmon blasting House Speaker john boehner. They scrambled together a majority to approve this trillion dollar spending bill by a whisper. The republicans take majority in january as you know. What will be the grand strategy for Speaker Boehner then . Karl rove, senior staff advisor for president george w. Bush and Fox News Contributor among many other things. From austin, karl, good morning to you. Welcome back here. I want to talk about the strategy for boehner. Steve scalise said tonight we set the stage for a battle with the president. What are republicans doing, karl . Well they, last night they basically funded the government for the balance of the fiscal year, except for the department of Homeland Security which they funded through february. And then in january and february, the House Republicans are going to come back and try and rein in the president on his executive order on immigration by putting riders on the department of Homeland Securitys funding bill. Look, i think there is a wide consensus within the republicans, both in house and senate, this ought to be done. There is a difference over tactics. Congressman salmon wanted to have the battle now. Speaker boehner wants the battle in january. Rather than having 45 republicans in the senate, there are 54. Rather than having 234 republicans in the house, there are 245. And he thinks that that will not only mean a stron also means a greater likelihood that democrats will come along with them. Bill wow. Very hard to see bill you think that boehners strategy will appease the conservatives who voted no last night . Im not certain it will, look, there is a group within that element, no matter what boehner does they will be uncomfortable and unhappy wit. There is a small group of them. Not all of them but a small group of them who are in permanent opposition. But i do thinking members like salmon and others will, will be more than placated by the republicans taking up in january and february similar measures in an effort to, when the dhs bill comes up, the dhs, dhs funding bill, department of Homeland Security funding bill they can rein in the president and do so with not only house voting for it, the house would have done that last night by a good margin but when you have 50 55 democrats in the senate as they have today, there is little or no chance of getting the 60 votes necessary to pass a measure with that kind of rider on it. Bill that is interesting so we wait in 2015. Take it outside of washington. Take it to the american voter. This bill was nearly 2,000 pages long. It is a trillion dollars plus. Remember all the battles weve been having past six years. Whats changed in washington . Well, look, we have had a broken Budget System since 2008. The last time that we passed a budget in the regular order with a subcommittees working it through and committees voting on it and everything getting done largely before the first of october, beginning of fiscal year was in 2007 for fy2008. Ever since then, particularly under the Obama Administration weve been funding government in, a couple of months at a time. That is a stupid way to go about doing it. Boehner wants to return the entire congress and entire government to what happened in the Republican House the last two years and that is that they considered these Appropriations Bills in regular order and passed virtually all of them before the deadline. They were not taken up by the Dysfunctional Senate under harry reid. As a result we find ourselves where we are. We haves pad, we have funded the got since 2009 by passing a whole series of very large bills every couple of months. Every time you pass a continuing resolution, it is not one or two pages long. Its a large document, funding the government for 45 days, 60 days, 90 days, 120 days. Bill youre arguing government is more effective now and working again, is that what youre saying . No, im not. Im saying this last acts of dysfunctionalty. Boehner wants to get it next year in 2015, when they wipe the budget goes from october of 2015 to end of september 2016 they do it as is required by law in regular order so that these budgets can be examined in detail by respective committees of the house and senate and done, have plenty of time to consider these things as the house did this year. The house, the house budget was passed in regular order on time, largely on time. And the senate just refused to take those bills up. Hence we find ourselves in a place where were four months into the, three months into the fiscal year, funding ourselves month to month to month. Bill take it back to the american voter. 75 house seats lost by democrat by the president in four years. 14 senate seats lost by democrats and president in four years. What is the american voter, karl, getting for its vote . Well, look, were going to see the results next year. My sense is that, look, House Republicans passed a large number of very constructive, positive bills have to do with reining in government spending, reforming government, encouraging growth of jobs in the private economy, reducing unnecessary regulation. Many passed on big votes with lots of democrats voting for them. All of them went to die in the u. S. Senate. The key test for the republicans is going be next year in a new congress is the house going to pass similar measures . Will they be taken up by the senate . Will they be considered and passed, sent to the president for his signature or his veto. That will be real test. In this bill last night, one of the reince why democrats were opposed to it, had too little spending, had necessary reforms of doddfrank, cut money for irs. Cut money for pet programs of the white house. They voted against it 72 of the them voted against it because they didnt conform to what they wanted to have. That is the way the system works. It women be even worse next year. Bill will make january interesting. Mitch mcconnell in the senate, argument youre making robly all likelihood pass from the house to the senate. Well see very interesting decisions by white house. Karl rove, thank you. In austin. Merry christmas. Bill Merry Christmas to you. One of the biggest power players in hollywood is now in some serious hot water after leaked emails show her joking about president obama with many people calling those remarks at the least racially insensitive. Bill also a time capsule, a bit of a mystery. More than 200 years ago by some very problem men figures in u. S. History. 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It shows bashing alist stars and taking aim at president obama, making racially tinged jokes about kinds of movies he would probably like. All of which have africanamerican stars in them. Very odd exchange in these emails. Will carr following the story from our west coast newsroom. What are we hearing from the sony executives in terms of apologies at this point . Well, good morning, martha. Both quickly came out yesterday and offered their own apologies. Now this firestorm started after emails between the two were leaked online between Sony Pictures cochairman amy pascual, and producer scott rudin. Pascual who is a big money democratic donor and rudin exchanged comments about president obama and derogatory statements about a numb per of celebrities. Of the pascual released this statement. The content of my emails to scott are inappropriate and not reflection who i am. Although this was private communication that was stolen i accept full responsibility what i rote and apologize to everyone who was offended. Rudin who produced movies like moneyball, the road din and captain still lips apologized as well. But many critics question if theyre sincere. Both are infamous for their tempers and being cunning and biting. These leaked emails are no surprise. Everyone knows that they have very big egos and get say what they want to say aget away wit. Reporter some conservative critics wonder if these were conservative executives if the backlash would be that much worse, martha. Martha we think there will be more of that. This hack something going on and on for sony. Its a nightmare for this company. Reporter thats right. It really seems like it is just the beginning right now of all the documents that were hacked for sony, only a small amount have been leaked online. Those weve seen seen so far contain negative comments about angelina jolie, leonardo dicaprio, tom cruise. And also celebrities Social Security numbers wound up online. It comes at the same time as release of the sony movie, the interview, a comedy condemned by north korea. The fbi says north korea could behind the attacks. Martha, that is still under investigation. Indeed. Will, thank you very much. Is there a new civil war among democrats now . Many going public against the president. We watched it last night. Chris stirewalt is standing by to react this morning. Martha and we will look at the growing pushback against a scathing Senate Report on the cias use of enhanced interrogation techniques in the wake of the 9 11 terror attacks when youve only have one hand, youre not doing anything as fast as you used to. Do you need help . What is that . Swiffer dusters. I can extend it so i dont have to get on the step stool. Its like a dirt magnet just like my kids. I think swiffer definitely gave me some of that time back. That its given me time toabout reflect on some of lifeseen biggest questions. Like, if you could save hundreds on Car Insurance by making one simple call, why wouldnt you make that call . See, the only thing i can think of is that you cant get any. Bars. Ah, thats better. Its a beautiful view. I wonder if i can see mt. Rushmore from here. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. Martha accusations of blackmail and intimidation flying around on capitol hill this morning, some democrats outraged over what they say was being pushed around, essentially, during the spending bill debate but not by republicans, by the white house. Welcome, everybody. Brand new hour of americas newsroom on a friday, im martha maccallum. Bill and im bill hemmer, good morning. Liberals blasted the president for supporting this republican bill. Charles krauthammer saying democrats are at war with each other. Watch. If youre a republican, you should simply sit back and enjoy this. People have been talking about the great civil war among republicans. Ive argued that its rubbish. The real civil war, especially after this election, is among the democrats, and were seeing it now. A rebellion by House Democrats led by nancy pelosi against the white house, a rebellion by warren leading the leftwing faction of the party against the moderates, and its a great freeforall. Martha for anybody who likes to watch politics. Chris stirewalt is fox news digital politics editor. Good to see you this morning, welcome. Good morning, miss martha. Martha i want to play people a few sound bites, and then well get your response. Lets take a look at that. I was so really heart broken. I dont think ive ever said that word on the floor of the house, heartbroken to see the taint that was placed on this valuable appropriations bill. From on high. Martha so what did the white house force them to do, chris, and why are they so unhappy about it . Well, they didnt force her to do anything. And though i would be loathe to ever disagree with dr. Krauthammer, i would have to say this, nancy pelosi in this case is still trying to act like shes in front of the parade. What happened here was Elizabeth Warren, freshman senator from massachusetts, started an insurrection. She had help of house members who were frustrated with nancy pelosi who has not been in the majority, as you may recall, for some time, frustrated with her and the deal that she put together with House Republicans and the white house. They started an insurrection, and nancy pelosi under threat, i believe jumped out in front and pretended she was leading the band. Martha so Elizabeth Warren, she wanted to uphold doddfrank, you know, a number of measures in this bill that she was very unhappy with, Campaign Finance reform among them. You know, shes flexing some muscle here as well. What does this tell us about Elizabeth Warrens future plans . Ah [laughter] well, ill just put it this way the only person in the Democratic Party right now who could mounted any kind of a mount any kind of a credible threat to Hillary Clinton, not only did she scuttle or almost scuttle this the topic that she chose which was banks and bank regulations, and she even branded it with Hillary Clintons biggest source of Campaign Donations over the years, citigroup. She even called it that and targeted it right on Hillary Clintons greatest benefactors. We dont know what Elizabeth Warrens going to do, but i will say this, if Hillary Clinton thinks she can sit on the shelf until april or may and then come out and have her coronation, shes wrong, because Elizabeth Warren will use all that time to fire up the left that is not at all happy, not at all happy about the fact that Hillary Clinton is going to sail right in to their partys nomination. Martha since you brought it up, thats the word now, that Hillary Clintons not going to announce until the spring. Why do you think that is, chris . I think theyre whistling past the graveyard. As my mother would have said, thats bar talk. By time they get to, i would say, january, the pressure will be growing, growing, growing for Hillary Clinton to get in the game. If they can make it to march, theyd be doing pretty well. Anything past that is prerouse. Martha chris, thank you so much. Have a great weekend. Bill he knows nothing about the bar. Martha i know nothing about the bar talk. Bill karl rove last hour arguing its part of a working strategy from House Speaker john boehner, get through the rest of the year. Im saying this is the last acts of dysfunctionalty. Boehner wants to get it so that next year n2015 in 2015, in the budget that goes from october of 2015 to the end of 2016, that they do it as is required by law in regular order so that these budgets can be examined in detail by the respective committees of house and senate and done and have plenty of time to consider these things. Bill do you agree with that . What will change in the next congress . Send us a tweet billhemmer and martha jon maccallum. Also our facebook page, americas newsroom, you can like us on there and share a comment too. Martha yes, you can. And you do. And we thank you for that and keep it coming. Bill you got it. Five minutes past the hour. It is called the Pineapple Express, and its pounding the west coast. Dangerous storm causing mudslides as it slams into southern california. In Northern California widespread blackouts, more than a quarter million losing power as high waves slam on the shore. The water comes in, the water goes out. And the problem is, it leaves all this sludge and mud. Even if you sand pga, the water is in the silt and the sand. Bill maria molina warned us about it, its still happening today. Hows it look . Hello, everyone. Wayment to i want to share some of these incredible rainfall totals because some areas have picked up close to a foot of rainfall. Flash flooding has been occurring in some of these areas across california and, unfortunately, even reports of a mudslide across Ventura County out there in california. The wind has been also another big issue out there. Take a look at some of these reported wind gusts across states like oregon and across california, exceeding over 100 miles per hour. And this is along some of the Higher Elevations out there for most of the west that have been really looking at some of those strong winds. But its been windy all the way down through lower elevations. Right now it is still raining across the Los Angeles Area and even farther north across San Francisco in Northern California. Were also seeing significant snowfall rates across the Higher Elevations of the sierras, looking at rates of up to 2 inches per hour, and thats going to be producing very Poor Visibility out there. Several feet of snowfall accumulation are forecast along those high elevations. As far as additional rainfall, were still looking at some areas potentially picking up close to an inch of rainfall. You can see right there san diego, so that flood threat is going to continue in place. We do need the moisture, so this is welcome news across california. 94 right now between severe to exceptional drought conditions. So, again, we really need the moisture. Unfortunately, some areas need as much as 20 inches or even higher amounts of rainfall to bust that drought. And you can see coming up were going to have a break as we head into saturday, but then another powerful storm system will be arriving as we head into sunday evening across parts of the west coast. Expect more rain in areas like San Francisco, Northern California and eventually across parts of southern california. Bill . Bill it just keeps on coming. I mean, wow. Thank you, maria. Maria molina there. Martha . Martha heres one way to get around when its underwater, some kayakers in heelsburg, california, finding it easier to paddle than to drive. An overflowing creek sending water into the down up to area. These kayakers rose to the equation, going around and checking submerged cars to see if anybody was stuck and needed help. Classes canceled, you know, when this happens bill unbelievable. Martha you need a boat. Bill thats a lovely town, by the way. Martha its a beautiful town. Right in the middle of all those vineyards. Bill hang in there, california. This note from the world of business, chrysler recalling vehicles with faulty airbags, 179,000 more vehicles to be warped or taken off the warned or taken off the road including the ram pickup truck as well as the Dodge Durango and dodge magnum between 2003, 2005. The airbags, made by the takata corporation, could explode with too much force and shoot shrapnel at drivers and passengers. So yet another expansion of that recall. Martha and escalating turmoil on the west bank. New clashes erupting between Israeli Forces and palestinian protesters. This following the controversial death of a palestinian minister earlier this week. Volleys of rocks also flying through the air in hebron, one of the most hotlycontested cities in the territory. Israel has sent in reinforcements as it deals with a shaky security situation, and that story is not going away anytime soon. Bill in the meantime, the timing of the cia interrogation report released exclusively by democrats is being called into question. Isnt it interesting that we wait until alqaeda is on the run and the Terror Threat has been minimized . Its been 13 years before all of a sudden everyone wakes up to the problem. Where were they in 2004 . Bill is america turning on its warriors because they feel safe iser now than they did safer now than they did after 9 11 . General jack keane will take that on today. Martha then Congressional Staffers stage a walkout on capitol hill. What was this all about . Well tell ya. Bill late last night this woman voted against, voted no on the house spending bill. Michele bachmann is our guest in a moment. We will ask her why and what is next. Nobodys here to shut down the government. The mesh people have to live the American People have to live under the rule of law, we think the president should have to live under the rule of law. Health can change in a minute. So cvs health is changing healthcare. Making it more accessible and affordable, with over 900 locations for walkin medical care. And more on the way. Minuteclinic. Another innovation from cvs health. Because health is everything. Bill congressional protests on the hill. Dozens of Staff Members staging a walkout of the Capitol Building angry over the deaths of Michael Brown and eric garner. The walkout was organized by the congressional black associates, but Staff Members from other minority associations took part in that. That means protect the constitution and the separation of powers. The president has claimed the authority to write laws out of the oval office of the white house. He has no such authority, and weve got to have a vote to prove that. Martha congressman steve king accusing the president of executive overreach on immigration. Conservatives are pushing to use the power of the purse to block his deportation order including congresswoman michele bachmann, republican from minnesota. Good to have you here on your last day in office. Its good to have you. Lets jump into some of this, and then well get to that in just a moment. Youre very unhappy, obviously, with the passage of this bill. Why . Its the most consequential vote that i cast in eight years because not only is it an unconstitutional act that the president made by issuing millions of work permits or his threat to do so which is effectively amnesty, but its also a breaking of the social compact between the United States government and the American People. We shouldnt be funding illegal, unconstitutional activity by the president of the United States, and what was very offensive to me is that we werent even allowed to vote on defunding the president s illegal activity. What we did, in effect, martha, was to fully fund the president s agenda through october 1st of this year. Why republicans would do that is beyond me. We had the president of the United States on the upon the lobby on the phone lobbying for passage of John Boehners bill yesterday. So we had john babier and the boehner and the president working together to get this bill passed which fully funds the president s illegal activity. Martha but i think in february that picture could change, and the thinking on John Boehners part and those who stood with him was that once they get to february, theyre going to have both sides of capitol hill, of course, and a lot more leeway than they have right now. They wanted to push that discussion to that point to have a little more leverage. Well, i hear and understand what youre saying. But, again, by that time the president is already putting together a thousand individuals working in crystal city to issue these work permits. And so the question is, will the leadership fight against the amnesty, and will they fight against the work permits . As a member of congress, i have not seen the Republican Leadership fight against the work permits or fight against amnesty. And i think really, martha, the big question is this would we have seen this vote in the week before the election . And i think never in any parallel universe would we have ever seen this vote just prior to the election. If thats so, why were we handgun to have this vote willing to have this vote today, after the election . Because the American People dont want amnesty, and they dont want us funding the president s illegal amnesty. And i think thats what we need to do. We need to respect the American People martha understood. This is insulting. Martha let me ask you this, youve been a very proud and outspoken spokeswoman in many ways for the tea party and the issues that theyve stood for over the course of your term on capitol hill, and todays your last day on capitol hill this is. Martha how do you think your partys going to look in january and Going Forward in this next congress . Well, im extremely excited with the election results. This would be the first time in a long time that the congress has been led by republicans both in the house and in the senate, and i am hopeful that they will be emboldened to do the right thing. Because the values that people care about are these they dont want the government to spend more money than what it takes in, they want the government to follow the laws that it passes, and they believe that people are taxed enough already. Martha but are you concerned, that im sorry to interrupt you, but are you concerned that voices like yours are not going to have a prominent position in this new congress . Well, i think that with these larger numbers, i think well see more and more men and probably a little bit fewer conservatives, but again, this is an opportunity for republicans to show what theyre made of and what their agenda is. And as long as we follow what it is that the American People want, the republicans will continue to win elections in the future. Thats really it. We need to do what we say were going to do, and we need to follow the will of the people, and our country will be just fine. Martha understood. I know you said youve been happy, even though its your last day, because you feel like youve been fighting to the very last minute of your service on capitol hill. I also understand you took an opportunity at the White House Christmas party to ask the president to bomb Iranian Nuclear facilities during your moment with him shaking the hands by the christmas tree. How did that go . [laughter] well, you know, i decided this will be the last time that ill have a conversation with the president of the United States in my capacity as a member of congress, and i decided to have a substantive conversation. And i thought about what is the most important issue facing the United States today, and its iran obtaining a Nuclear Weapon. So i asked the president to be very serious and to think about this because if iran obtains a Nuclear Weapon on his watch, the course of history will change. Martha what was his response . So i used that time. Pardon . Martha what was his response . Well, he was actually fairly condescending. He smiled and laughed and was fairly patron iizing and said, well, you know, it just isnt that easy, michelle, but thats okay. Like im a little woman who doesnt know what im talking about. So i said, no, mr. President , this is quite serious, this will be on your watch, and you cant go backwards. This is the ultimate in high stakes bingo. We cant get it wrong. And if theres anything iran has proved, its that they have blown through every requirement, and they have moved fully ahead to put together their nuclear program. This is a very serious issue. They have stated unequivocally they will bomb the United States, they will bomb israel, they will use this weapon if they have it, and i believe under no circumstances should iran ever have access to a Nuclear Weapon. But theyre on their way. Theyre well on their way. Martha interesting exchange. And i know something you feel very strongly, obviously, and very passionately about. I want the thank you for being with us quite often in your capacity as congresswoman and wish you well in your future endeavors, and im sure well see you on the other side and in your next life, in the next chapter as well. Thank you very much, congresswoman michele bachmann. Good to see you. Happy holidays to you and your family. Thank you. The best is yet to come. Bill something tells me shes not going away quietly. Martha a smile and a picture by the christmas tree, the president got a little more than he bargained for in that exchange, i think. Bill about 20 minutes past the hour now. Why the president S Immigration decree could end up costing americans billions of dollars in tax fraud money. Well explain that. Martha and a heartless thief breaks into a church, stealing christmas presents from under the tree. Grinchlike. I would say. If youre stealing from a church at christmas time, and if youll steal from a church at christmas time, youll steal from anyone. 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Support the cause and get a free sample of depend at underwareness. Com. Martha this terrible story caught on video. One woman seen stealing christmas presents from a church near fresno, california. She makes three trips to get the gifts for the homeless from under that tree. Watch this. This is just us. I mean, were giving them away to people who need them. If she needed them, we would have given them to her. You didnt need to break in and feel stuff. Martha she rummages around the whole building, finally she puts everything in a big black trash bag, kind of like the grinch, and leaves. Police are still looking for this thief. Bill the cost of president obamas executive action on immigration now going even higher. Perhaps more than one million undocumented people can now receive benefits through two federal programses, both of which an irs Watchdog Group says is plagued by fraud. Byron york writes about it, chief washington correspondent for the Washington Examiner and a Fox News Contributor. Good morning to you. Good morning, bill. Bill this is the income earned tax credit which does what . How are you eligible . Well, there are two programs. One is the earned income tax credit, one is the Child Tax Credit. Theyre meant for working people, for low income people, and what they are is a tax refund thats bigger than your Tax Liability. So in other words, the government writes you a check. If you have a Tax Liability you might qualify for a refund of 5,000. Well, here comes a 4,000 check to you. So this is a program in which the government actually sends out billions of dollars to low income americans. Bill okay. Important for them too, you know . Lets face it, a lot of folks depend on this. But this is the cost that goes out, right . 63 billion in earned income tax credits. Huge number. But the improper benefits totals 14,500,000,000. How does that happen . The biggest reason is the irs doesnt want to enforce it and crack down on fraud. Weve known for a long time that the earned income tax credit has a huge fraud rate. The fraud rate is now 24 according to this new report. What we didnt know is that the additional Child Tax Credit and, remember, these are the two things that president obama says will now apply for Illegal Immigrants affected by his program the additional Child Tax Credit has a fraud rate of between 2530 . These are absolutely huge. The government says theres a problem a fraud rate many a program is above 2. 5 , and this ones close to 30 . Bill byron, how do people cheat on this . I mean, is it, is it simple paperwork . Well, the irs says a lot of people have what they call complex living arrangements. Therell be a number of people who give the same address on tax returns and say they qualify for this tax credit. The problem is the irs doesnt really want to crack down on this. The irs actually rejected the suggestions, the recommendations of this Inspector General report saying that it would just be too hard, or it might hurt people who legitimately do qualify for these benefits. And weve had congress has passed bills, the president has done it in executive order ordering the irs to crack down on this. It has never happened, and the fraud keeps getting bigger and bigger every year. Bill well, you make the point that the irs management dismissed this report. They did. Bill in the end, id like to say somethings going to change, but youre going to tell me, no, its not. No, its not. These numbers are huge. In the last ten years, just the earned income tax credit alone, estimated fraud between 124 and 148 billion. This is billion, not million. Thats more than we spend each year on, say, Veterans Benefits or the Justice System or transportation or all sorts of federal priorities. This is a huge, huge fraud on the taxpayer. Bill its a waste of money, and it would be a lot better if people cared. Absolutely. Bill byron york, thanks for bringing it to light. Thank you, bill. Martha the senate interrogation report placing blame where its least deserved, on those who are keeping us safe from terrorists, say many. General keane will set the record straight on what he thinks and who he thinks really deserves it. Bill also a time capsule has been found possibly hidden by paul revere himself. Martha that is fascinating. Bill so we ask, whats in it . Were about to find out. Martha one if by land, two if by sea. Comfort keepers can provide a variety of Inhome Services for your aging loved ones. Well assess their needs and create a custom care plan that can change as their needs change. Bill there is growing backlash against the Senate Democratic report on cia interrogation. Critics saying it blames brave agents who are racing risking their lives to keep us safe even today. Here is general bob scales making his case with greta last night. All of a sudden folks start turning on the warrior class. It happens after every war when they feel safe enough to go back and parse every action that was made in extreme mis, in the height of combat at a time when america was frightened, turning to the military and the cia to keep them safe. And once they feel safe, they go back to moral equivalence. Bill general jack keane, a fox news military analyst. How are you, general . Good morning, good morning to you. Good morning, bill. Bill how do you see that based based well, i agree with general scales, but i would add this. Certainly, these political leaders today all supported the president s decision on enhanced interrogation techniques, and now theyre separating themselves from that decision. And when you separate it from the context of that decision, its easy to ride the moral high ground and denigrate those decisions based on core values. But the truth is, bill, history is on the side of president s who were informed by core values but National Security and protecting the American People took precedence. So you have lincoln who made war on the southern people, not just a confederate army. You have roosevelt who makes war on the german people, not just the nazis and the german army. 350,000 civilians killed. You have truman, drops two bombs on japanese cities, atomic bombs and also carpet bombs and fire bombs tokyo. Dead, close to 500,000. And we have bush who makes a decision, i believe in his mind, to protect the American People. I believe he has a ticking bomb scenario. He makes a decision informed by core values. National security takes precedence, and now people want to separate themselves from that and take it out of context. Bill two days ago Michael Hayden was on our program. He ran the cia. He was basically called a liar. He makes a similar case to scales. Listen. Now that weve made everyone feel more comfortable, theyve stopped complaining that were not doing enough to keep them safe. Now since weve made them feel safe again, they start complaining that we did too much. Bill do you think some of thats going on . Oh, yeah, absolutely. And it goes back to the point that director brennan made yesterday, which i really applauded the way he began that press conference by stating the case again and bringing the audience back to what had taken place on 9 11. The context of that issue. And you can only understand these decisions within that context. And now we have people 13 years later separating themselves from that and using other arguments against it. Bill so youre saying, you could make a moorl and ethical moral and ethical argument against this, but when you take it in context, its different entirely. I mean, i went to a jesuit school, fordham university. We made moral and ethical arguments against nagasaki, against roosevelts carpet bombing of german people. But you can only understand those decisions, and these are president s who enjoy the respect of the American People and are being treated very well in history, you can only appreciate those decisions because their ultimate and First Respondent is the respond respond responsibility is the safety of the american public. Bill i think the polls in the coming days could be interesting and telling. What do you think . Well, as of right now, the polls do support the actions taken to protect the American People post9 11, and i think as we get even further away from that, im not a historian, but i would suspect that president bush and these actions that he took will be justified by his desire to protect the American People just as history has supported lincoln, roosevelt and truman in the decisions i tried to outline that they made. Bill so well be on standby for that. It will be interesting to see. General, thank you for your time. I guess in the interest of being fair and balanced, go army. Oh, my god. [laughter] bill i mean, last hour they said go navy, so were just trying to keep it even. Martha better watch out for general keane. The army needs everybodys prayers here. Martha maybe he should get out there and put a jersey on. Bill thank you, general. Talk soon. Thanks, bill. Martha so a time capsule hidden for centuries was just removed from the massachusetts statehouse in boston. This is fascinating, this story. It was put there by two american patriots, samuel adams who brought us the great beer, right, bill . And paul revere in 1795. Chief correspondent jonathan hunt, a revolutionary himself [laughter] is live in our new york city newsroom. So, jonathan, what is in this capsule . First of all, i have very mixed feelings about this paul revere character [laughter] i guess i can embrace him. Were told that inside this capsule, martha, are coins and engraved silver plates and a whole bunch of newspapers from 1795. Goodness knows what condition theyre in, but this was dug out and found in a cornerstone of the massachusetts statehouse. Officials, as you can imagine, nerdy as they are very excited to open it because, as they say, the history of massachusetts is the history of the United States. Listen here. It was a hard days work, a long days work, but, you know, its an important part of our patrimony here in massachusetts, and we want to protect it and do it right, and we didnt want to make any mistakes. She did a terrific job, and all the men and women who worked on this project did a terrific job. Reporter interestingly, this was only discovered, martha, because of ongoing construction at the massachusetts statehouse. If they hadnt had to rebuild the Water Filtration system, we might never have known about it. Martha isnt it fascinating that they put that there all those years ago and no doubt lots of thought about what they put inside it, and its the second capsule of this kind thats been opened in just the past few months, right . Reporter yeah. Remember back in october the time capsule that was removed from the iconic lions head statue also at the massachusetts statehouse. They opened that back in october. Treasuretrove of historical artifacts inside it, photographs, autographs from when it was placed in the statue. Also Campaign Buttons for mckinley and teddy roosevelt. But getting back to this new time capsule or this latest, actually, old orer time capsule, martha. As you mentioned, put there in part by sam adams, so im just hoping they find beer. [laughter] bill you would. Reporter and ill volunteer to drink it. Martha thank you, jonathan. Its not going to be cold. Bill breaking news out of london. Getting word of travel issues in europe. The entire air space over london is currently closed due to a computer failure. So what does that mean . Is that heathrow . Is that gatwick . I dont even know if those planes even fly over the city of london. More to the outskirts, but there you see a little bit thats file video. We had a live image, but its not in just yet. A computer glitch has the air space shut down over london. Whats that all about . Martha well see whats going on there. Bill we shall. Martha and just how private are your private conversations . This is a huge and growing story. Theres new backlash from this sony cyber attack over leaked emails from hollywood power players making raciallycharged remarks about the president and more. Bill also what was just found growing in Queen Elizabeths royal garden. Its a trip. Watch out for the white rabbits. Bill so were watching this story out of london, got an image from sky news. You see left of your screen, those are all the yellow airplanes that you see hunkered down around the west part of london. Whats significant is that east of there, there are very few planes in the air. Thats because the european air control agency, called euro control, says the air space over london has been closed after a computer failure. Heathrow airport theyre saying there was a power outage at the control center in another part of england. That statement giving no indication how long the situation would last or how long it was underway. But our bureau out of london is watching this story. Heres the statement, quote bill and we will do that as well. Once we get more information as to whats happening in london. Martha this story just keeps coming. No fullout from the Sony Pictures fallout from the Sony Pictures cyber attack after an email exchange was leaked to the media. Two hollywood power players making raciallyinsensitive remarks, mocking president obama. Sony exconservative amy pascal executive amy pascal and producer scott rudin chatting before they went to a fundraiser with obama in 2013, pascal asking hudin what she should stay to the president at the stupid breakfast, and rudin writes back, would he like to finance movies . Martha those are all movies, obviouslyh africanamerican stars. Now to talk about this and the large err implications of the cyber hacking and what gets released and doesnt get released, kevin jackson, author of race pimping, and a radio talk show host. Leslie marshalls with us as well, Fox News Contributor. Welcome to both of you. There are several elements to this story. You know, theres the insensitivity thats expressed in that exchange that i want to talk to you about, also the Health Records of sony executives and their children, specifically their names, the things that theyre suffering with was released in all of this. So theres a big picture here as well. Kevin, address if you would these comments, because we live in a world where paula deen and Donald Sterling have faced a tremendous amount of outrage for somewhat similar comments. Yeah. I personally think its much ado about nothing. Other than the fact that it tells you a little bit more of the insight into hollywood. And i think its more of a condemnation of the black films that get made and the idea that these guys are ridiculing these films, yet theyre obviously patronizing to the black audiences that go to see em. As far as obama is concerned, i think its goodnatured ribbing. I think what theyre saying is this guy, you know, he cant pick a good film, and he probably mimics a lot of what many conservative americans believe about his policies. Martha leslie, what do you think . Oh, kevin. I feel like i have a single bullet, magic bullet theory going on here. [laughter] with all due respect, my friend, kevin, youre color blind on this issue, sir. This is clearly, first of all, the first two films they talk about in the email, both are about slavery, africanamerican leads playing slaves. All four films have to do with africanamerican leads, an africanamerican cast, and i think its completely offensive not only to the numerous africanamericans who buy tickets that help to pay the salaries of these folks at sony, but to the talent, the many producers and directors, actors and actresses that are also africanamerican. Its very offensive, and thats the talk here in the hollywood area today. Martha i mean, i think hold on, ken. We put up paula deen, Donald Sterling who said reprehensible things of varying degrees, i should point out. But, you know, this morning i heard on another channel them sort of coming to the defense of these hollywood folks and saying is it really fair to release their emails, and i thought, well, why not . If thats the world that we are living in where these people had, you know, things that they claim were taken out of context and handled in the same way. Well, martha, part of it is, it is private messages. Look, i dont think theres any privacy in america anymore with respect to that. People get hacked all the time and that kind of thing is going to be, i think, big in the future. But at the end of the day, say what you mean and mean what you say. If theyre having a little bit of fun at the idea of a black president and these slavery movies, they could have gone back to roots and a whole bunch of other things. They were making fun of the idea of these movies which, by the way, is making money of themselves making fun of themselves. Theyre the ones making these movies. It isnt tyler perry theyre ridiculing, theyre ridiculing themselves. Martha were going to have to leave it there. Interesting take, kevin, and good to have both of you with us, kevin and leslie. This ones not going away with bigger issues about our privacy we mails and Health Records and all of that as it gets bigger and bigger. Thanks, you guys. Thanks. Bill back to breaking news, london, west of london, anyway, this is what the air space looks like over central london. Very few planes because a computer glitch apparently is preventing air space from being flown over in london. You imagine that in new york city . Martha no. Bill newark, jfk and laguardia, it would be a downright mess, and apparently its a mess too for the folks in london. Some are reporting that this will stay the way it is for, well, the foreseeable future. Were trying to figure out a time, whether thats minutes or hours from now, but well be back on this breaking news in a matter of moments here on america americas newsroom. Over 12,000 financial advisors. So, how are things . Good, good. Nearly 800 billion dollars in assets under care. Let me just put this away. How did edward jones get so big . 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Bill so weve got an eye on whats happening in london right now where the entire air space is closed after a computer breakdown. Greg talcotts watching that live in the our bureau now. Greg, what do you have . What happened . Reporter bill, this all happened in the last 25 minutes or so, the reports came out. Apparently, the air space over southern england is closed. This due to a power outage at a air Traffic Control center in the southern part of this country. It is making a real mess out of the very busy skies around here. Heathrow airport, arguably one of the busiest airports in the world, is shut down as we speak. There are no flights going in, there are no flights going out. What, you might ask, is going to happen to all the planes that are in the air ready to land, ready to take off as well . Well, theyre circling right now because gatwick, the second largest airport in the london area, is also closed. Airports further away like manchester are still operating, but its unclear whether any of these flights will be diverted to airports that are two, three, four hours drive away from here or whether these planes are going to keep circling around. Now, the deal is, bill, that the as of now the air space is closed until seven. That is three hours from now. Well do a calculation for our next report and tell you how many flights that means have to be diverted, but ive got to tell you, its going to be hundreds and hundreds, and that means thousands and thousands of air travelers could be messed up. And then theres the knockon effect, of course, bill. Again, heathrow one of the busy airports in the world, and that means a lot of people who are going to connect through london and go on elsewhere are also going to be affected. So we have just begun to see chaos. I think important thing to say, however, is we are not seeing a security issue in the sky. That is, there are no near misses or anything like that. Obviously, the air Traffic Controllers are working very hard to negotiate a big choreographed dance in the sky right now, big 747s, etc. But as of now one of the biggest airports in the world shut down as well as a couple of others. Were working it as we speak. Bill thats going to be a mess for the u. K. , a mess for the entire continent too. Greg, thank you. Back to greg talcott and our team there in london in a moment on that. Thanks, greg. Martha. Martha in the meantime, a massive and deadly storm hitting the west coast, the latest on the socalled sounds friendly, but its not the Pineapple Express. Why do i cook for the holidays . To share with family to carry on traditions to come together, even when were apart in stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, and more, swanson® makes holiday dishes delicious nineteen years ago, we thought, wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad . 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