0 dominant position that it had. that meant the trainers and working with troops fro troops m jabuti and kenya and other countries that are willing to put in assets. it took money and it took time but we just recognized the new is a malley government which could never have been possible without american support, because the-up was behind it. we got other nations to invest. what we look at for west africa is to support the eco was supported troop combination from a number of countries to really take the lead against the terrorist in review board captured the full picture of what happened. but we can agree to work together to move ahead on improving secretary. this hearing stands adjourned. >> thank you. >> kimberly: that was hillary clinton's testimony, just wrapping up on capitol hill. hello, everyone. i'm kimberly guilfoylesh along with bob beckel, eric bolling, dana perino, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: 135 days after muslim terrorists murdered four americans at the consulate in benghazi the nation's top diplomat appeared before lawmakers to explain what happened. secretary of state hillary clinton was emotional and combative in two separate hearings today. one in the house, the other in senate. she erupted at one point when republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin questioned her about the administration's initial storyline. >> we were misled that there were supposedly protests and something sprang out of that, assault sprang out of that. that was easily ascertained that was not the facts. american people could have known that within days and they didn't know that. >> with all due respect, the fact is we had four dead americans. >> i understand that. >> because of a protest or guys out for a walk one night to decide to go kill some americans? what difference at this point does it make? it is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again. >> kimberly: four dead americans, what difference does it make? >> eric: that was -- the problem with that sound bite is it came 84 minutes in to the testimony. i was waiting, i was online, tweeting, facebooking, waiting for one of the senators on the right side or the left side to ask her. when? why did you decide it was the video? why did you blame the video for so long? now with your own testimony right here, admitting that it answers from a magic 8 ball. i'm going to show you why this matters. why there is a difference that is made here. this is a summary of how hillary answered the erequests. i have it uerequests -- answeree questions. first, this stuff is hard. and then she'd say and confusing. then she would say but i take full responsibility. and then later, this is the genius of hillary clinton. admitting fault to evade taking responsibility. so it's a weird way. i actually absolves her. like a guy running over your dog and saying wow! this is awful. but let's move forward. so i won't run over your dog again. this is a bizarre thing. that's why when she says what difference does it make? it does make a difference. that is the mistake. >> bob: you just said it in your points, she said i take responsibility. >> greg: that is the genius. takes responseability to absolve responsibility. okay, i took responsibility. plane, draped in -- >> dana: she said -- right. >> eric: she mentioned the video standing next to the flags. 'canes that's right. >> eric: all the americans -- >> dana: in the hangar. >> eric: she didn't mention terror. she mentioned the video at that moment. if she didn't say it, she alluded to the fact that is what they were going to blame it on. >> dana: one of the murdered american's father -- >> kimberly: take a thereon sound from earlier today where she discusses this exactly. >> when you briefed up, you said unequivocally this is the result of the video. i remember in fact you got pretty upset about it when somebody suggested this was a terrorist attack. >> the video, i did not say that it was video, that it was about the video for libya. it certainly was for many of the other places where we were watching the disturbances. >> kimberly: okay. a couple interpretations of this. the fact of the matter you referenced where this there was a ceremony, the memorial for the fallen americans. where it is mentioned. >> eric: she mentioned it. by the way, she mentioned it day after, she mentioned the video. mentioned it that day. president obama mentioned it on october 25 at the-up. it was mentioned time and time again. it wasn't until, it wasn't until the debate with mitt romney that president obama said yeah, we knew it was terror. >> dana: you are right. >> eric: bailed him out. >> dana: you were right to correct mel. i also forgot it was days after secretary of state hillary clinton and president obama did that joint public service announce in the pakistan. where they said please, you know, know we didn't, we weren't the cause of the video that caused the riot. we didn't make the video. >> bob: you were waiting for hillary clinton, the benghazi people that follow this closely waiting for this to be the big moment. they didn't lay a finger on her. this is over. forget it. you have want to keep it going, fine. >> eric: agree with you. >> bob: old news. >> eric: i agree 100%. i was waiting for a senator, i put it up on senator. failed. corker. failed. rubio. failed. down the line. they had her, they had her with her own words. and they for some reason went back to the review board. that said here is where the failures were. there are four dead americans. >> kimberly: rand went after her. >> eric: 84 minutes in before they went after her. >> kimberly: then rand said if i was president and you worked for me and you didn't read the cable, bye. let's play that. >> had i been president at the time and i found you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you of your post. it's inexcusable. >> i am the secretary of state. and the a.r.d. made very clear that the level of responsibility for the failures that they outlined was set at the assistant secretary level and below. >> kimberly: greg, is that everybody would look down because they knew they didn't want to ask their boss to do the sunday show. but there are times when it's, when it's your responsibility. then you need to go out and do the sunday show, or whatever. when this was all taking place, you had an agent about to meet here in new york city. remember there was a hubbub about president obama declining for meeting. it make sense for the u.n. ambassador to do the sunday show but not in this case when they admitted she knew nothing about the breaking news. >> kimberly: she did a duck and cover and came forward when she was ready to speak and answer the questions. eric, i want to ask you about the f-16. the issue was there was a lot of posturing time to blame the house republicans for not providing funding to support our consulate. adequate security to protect the lives. when you look at what we spent money on -- >> eric: i have pages and pages of notes from her system. on several occasions, this is the way she put it. we had a budget shortfall. budget shortfalls, budget shortfalls. we'll send f-16s, you know, literally tens of billions of dollars funding various projects throughout the world. but we have budget shortfalls and there are four dead americans because of it. it was duck and cover and posturing for 2016. >> greg: like a student who flunked a course and tells the teacher i'm as shocked as you are how this turned out. i agree, we could all do better. >> bob: among the population she got a-plus today. >> greg: move forward. yes, i did a terrible job but move forward from the terrible job. >> bob: it is time to move forward. are you finished now? >> greg: no, another block. >> kimberly: time for the "b" block. i don't mean beckel. when we come back, gutfeld monologue on benghazi unlike anything you have seen on television. later, manti teo sits down with katie couric. we have have a tape. you have to decide if you believe him. that and much more ahead on "the five." ♪ ♪ for some people this is just pigskin and thread. but for most of us it represents something more. it's the time of year that we have all waited for. when we sit on the edge of our seats for four quarters. it represents players reaching a childhood dream. the biggest stage there is in sports. a time when legacies are made. where a magical play can happen every snap, and you remember exactly where you were when it does. watch every moment of super bowl xlvii live on nfl mobile. bringing the big game to you when every play matters... verizon. call star-star nfl to download nfl mobile from verizon.