thousand, of course during the direct examination of each witness, they'll have an opportunity to get their notes together and pull their files, so it's not devastating, but what judge merchan said is there's no rule that says they have to do that for you. they said they're not going to do it. that's their choice. >> but again, joyce, it is typical, right, that you would get the list or at least a heads-up to the defense so they can prepare for whichever witness is coming up. so does it potentially give an avenue for trump to claim the legal system is biased against him, if they don't extend that typical courtesy in this case? >> well, trump will always claim that the legal system is biased against him, no matter how fair the prosecution is. what this doesn't do is it doesn't create an issue on appeal for trump. carol's explained it perfectly. this is a courtesy practice among lawyers. the defense in this case, they know who the government's witnesses are. they have all of their discovery. they're fully capable of being