act to get worse and worse overtime, as we basically -- sanctions in the past after the invasion of crimea, for example. so i think the indication now is that we are making up for lost time, sending very different signals. what guarantees can he give? i am not just something like that would require ukraine to have appropriate defenses in the country. so it would not be easy for russia to roll back in again. is it is easy to make would listen to gastric will come into the negotiation table? now, we need to keep those talks open. and i think people will be really important right now is communication between the u.s. administration and president-elect's case governments, over, what are those criteria where the united states would be willing to pull back sanctions? because at the stage, ensuring that zelenskyy's team knows with that is, so that they can they can communicate and calibrate accordingly, would be really helpful. >> it's so interesting how much time we have all devoted to