time ago. and i think that when we do have the benefit of history, we are going to realize that this was the right thing to do. it's too late. the right time to leave afghanistan was a dozen years ago. it may have been 15 years ago. it could have been ten years ago, or eight years ago. we shouldn't be leaving now. but it's a good thing that we are. and it's a good thing that this president has had the courage to take this on. because i know that he knew that it was going to be a traumatic experience for all involved. >> a lot of the criticisms against the president has been, what's happening in kabul right now is only going to make america weaker. you have an incredible paragraph in that daily beast column that i want to read for everyone. you're right, the biden team view is based on the idea that becoming bogged down in a 20-year war without unclear mission that drained our resources and reduce destructed as from our priorities, made us weaker.