they'll accomplish, they've already fail. they fail because, like people around the world, americans are repulsed by their barbourism. their or hifk acts only unite us and stiff fin our resolve to take the fight against these terrorists. and those who make the mistake of harming americans will learn that we will not forget and our reach is long and that justice will be served. >> top of the hour, welcome to "morning joe." that was president obama in estonia in the past hour talking about isis and the latest -- >> a horrific video. a lot of people shaken up by it, obvious obviously. i got a friend calling me yesterday afternoon asking me after the beheading whether new york was still a safe place to raise their kids. i know you got a call from a friend who was -- >> shaken.
asking all sorts of questions about it. not that the first wasn't horrific, but the second has a chilling effect. >> both of them just absolutely terrible. americans are wakening to the fact that what we're witnessing is not even just another international terrorist organization. isis to many americans seem to be the face of evil, islamic extremist mutated to its most deadly form. they're sweeping up territory, seizing hundreds of millions in stolen money, they have hundreds of american passports and seem to be determined to killed as municipal americans as possible. there are times when paranoia and irrational fear grip americans and their political leaders. that fear leads our country down a disastrous path. vietnam and iraq obviously are two examples of that. i don't think, though, isis is a third. over the past few weeks, a lot of democrats have thanked me for my even-handed approach to this
crisis. a lot of right wingers have barbed me for not bashing the president. i gently remind you that a storm is writhing in the middle east unlike any in history. in this time of trouble the enemy isn't barack obama. the enemy is isis. americans understand this. if barack obama is not shooting first and asking questions later, a war-weary america will support that caution. but make no mistake of it, this president is going to act strongly against isis because he has no other choice. as the threat to americans grow, republicans should be seen as encouraging the commander in chief on this threat instead of taking cheap pot shots on every sunday show at every turn. that, my friends, is not just good politics. that's good for america. i love the quote, mika, that benjamin franklin had which is, we'll all either hang together or we'll hang separately.
i want everybody to know that i'm signed up for hanging together and facing down the threat with a democratic president just like democrats did with republican president in the months that followed september 11th. again, that's just not good politics. it's good for america. >> on that note we should say who we have this hour to talk about this. bbc correspondent kim gattis, combat of the u.s. army wes moore is with us. msnbc correspondent bill neely is with us and ayman is with us. u.s. intel jns officials are confirm that a video does show islamic state militants be heading a second american journalist in syria. steven sut love was murdered in response to air strikes in iraq. the killer says, quote, i'm back, obama, with the same british accent as in the james
foley video. the videos also seem to be shot in the similar locations with both hostages wearing a gitmo-type uniform. >> ayman, of course, the threat is growing, and it is -- several years ago we had dr. brzezinski on and he politely reminded us that the taliban wasn't interested in knocking down buildings in new york city. this is an international organization that does want to grow, that does want to do harm to america. >> they are making it very obvious. first of all, they have territorial expansion plans. they want to establish a state. they are ideologically at war with the united states and the west. they have made it clear they will use any resources including american citizens and others. we've already seen them recruiting several hundred of them. they're laying their cards out
on the table. they're clear about what they want to do, they want to go after arab regimes. there's no doubt about it. this is not an iraq -- >> by the way, i'm so glad you point that out because this is not isis against the west. this is not isis against christians. this is also isis against muslims. >> this is isis against the world. this is isis against the world. >> kim, speaking of isis against the world, what's europe's reaction right now. obviously we americans are more shaken because of the beheading of yet another american journalist. is europe awakening to this fact that isis is a growing threat and pose possibly a great threat to many european countries? >> i think that has been clear to many european countries over the last few weeks and months, particularly in the u.k. because the man who appears to have been responsible for the beheading of
both james foley and steven sotloff speaks with a british accent. so there is a growing sense in the u.k. this is not just a far-away problem in the middle east, although geographically it's not that far, this is something that could come back to haunt the uk itself and by extension europe. president hollande, a few weeks ago, the french president, said this is a problem coming to knock on europe's door and if something more forceful had been done because of what was going on in syria, if military action had been taken against president assad a year ago, perhaps isis would not have been able to make the gains it has made. it's one point of very. >> wes moore, obviously uf' talked about a lot of americans will support this president when he takes aggressive action
against isis. obviously the tabloids in new york city are blasting away, "the daily news" writing the picture of the killer saying "do you have a strategy now, mr. president?" there's a growing realization that a war-weary america wants to go back to war. i'm wondering what caution do we need to take before we start firing? we have the example of what happened in iraq when we went in before figuring out a way to get out of there. what do we need to do? what do we need to be worried about instead of going in firing missiles? >> we need to be worried about there is not just the short-term threat but the long-term threat. we have to be cognizant of both before we decide to put anything in front of us, anything on the table or off of the table. we have to understand when we're talking about things like limited military air strikes, that you can do limited military air strikes all you want, but if
you don't have a couple things in place, the limited military air strikes are only going to have limited effect. this is not about slowing down the growth of isis. this is about eliminating isis. one thing, i hear people talk about boots on the ground and what's going to happen with american soldiers. there's no one more cautious about warfare, about being about to activate warfare than american soldiers this is what we're here for. we don't like feeling that we're activated by something that doesn't have a long-term effect or for political purposes. people understand the threat of isis and what's being done. we're prepared and ready. >> let's bring in michael leiter. michael, bottom line, what keeps
you up at night about the potential of isis spreading around the world? >> two things, mika, a westerner getting on a plane in istanbul, flying to either europe or the united states and setting off an improvised explosive device just like in 2009 or americans who have trained and fought with isis in syria, coming back to the united states and they, using small weapons or ieds attack sites in the u.s. i don't think it's something that's going to happen tomorrow, but i think in the very near term there is absolutely within isil's capabilities and their intent. >> it's their intent and unlike a lot of other terror groups, we hear them having $100 million, possibly more than that. we've heard reports of them taking over chemical plants in iraq. they seem to have the capacity to cause more damage to the united states and even al qaeda
in its heyday. >> they really are more established and control more geographic ground. this isn't an organization that's are going to choke off financially or keep them from getting military resources. they have all of that. the only long home intent left is can they get a westerner to that's not easy. attack in the west. i will say in koount terrorism perspective it's really, really hard to play defense on that. >> let me bring in bill neely in london. bill, what is -- you were just in northern iraq. tell us what's happening on the ground there? what's the attitude of the people there? is it a state of siege or do they believe they can push isis back? >> going back to your initial comments about being shaken, i think for all of us in northern iraq, i was there two weeks ago standing beside a destroyed isis
vehicle. at one point isis shelled the positions we were in. it shakes all of us as journalists to go in and out of this region regularly to see two journalists beheaded like this. clearly isis is at the moment on that region people are on the back foot. people are speculating that this is why these videos coming out. in the second video the killer clearly refers of the setback in the town of amerli. here in the u.k. this morning david cam roond his closest officials, close cabinet officials, military and intelligence officials have been discussing what on earth to do about this. at the end of that second video, there was a third hostage and is british. the killer is clearly british
and the next man set up to be killed is a brit. a ransom is out of the question. like the u.s., the u.k. does not pay ransom. identifying this killer is under way but no one has positively identified him yet. the big question is will the u.k. join with the u.s. in air strikes at the minute the u.s. aircraft are involved in reconnaissance operations, does the u.k. get involved in bombing iraq? >> ayman. >> kim, i wanted to know from you if you've gotten a sense from any of the arab diplomats that you deal with that this is a turning point for them to become more involved on the ground and not just simply outsourcing it to the west to solve problems in their own region. >> i think arab diplomats would reply that this is a problem that they have been worried about and concerned about for quite some time. i just spent the summer in lebanon where isis is knocking
at the gates as well. there's a lebanese soldier who was taken hostage who has just been beheaded as well this week. i think in the arab world there's a sense that although the outrage about the beheading of american citizens is deeply felt here in the u.s. because he has a name, he has a face, we've red his stories, seen the message from his mother. we saw the poignant messages from the parents of james foley. although that outrage is deeply felt here, because these people are very real for us in the u.s., it's important to remember that what james and steven were trying to do was make the suffering of the people over there in the arab world very real for people in the u.s. they were trying to bring those stories to their audiences in the u.s. to remind people of the suffering there. so the reaction in the arab world is one of, yes, we feel for the pain of people in the u.s., but we have been suffering as well for quite some time
because of this group. >> bill neely and michael leiter, thank you very much. kim gattis, wes moore, stay with us if you k. we want to turn to other news. ukraine and russia's president have reached a deal for a permanent truce, according to ukraine's president. presidents putin and bore shen co-spoke by phone. >> the according to wire reports, the kremlin quickly poured cold water on the announcement saying only steps to peace discussed and insisted that russia is not part of the conflict. the family of the 9-year-old girl who accidentally shot and killed with her instructor with an uzi at a firing range is speaking out for the first time. according to the police report the parents say immediately after the shot was fired, their daughter hit the ground and they
feared she was injured. after learning she was okay, she told them the gun was, quote, too powerful for her. achl mid the chaos, the parents say they were unaware the instructor was injured and were able to remove her child from the scene before they saw what happened. the family says they are devastated over the accident calling it a life-changing tragedy. >> it is a life-changing tragedy. i'm so glad she got out of there before she saw anything. >> at least that, but i don't know how they move on. >> again, a 9-year-old girl telling her parents the gun was too powerful. you don't know -- >> it is too powerful for a a 9-year-old girl. >> of course it is. there are a lot of people that shouldn't put the gun in the hands of that little girl. i don't know. maybe the parents just assumed at the range would know they
what they were doing. >> the instructor's family says that they are praying for the girl's family. >> it is such a tragedy. you know what? there do need to be some regulations. >> it's almost ridiculous that it's an issue. much more news to cover. still ahead on "morning joe," taking on burger king. one senator explains his push for a boycott of the fast food giant. then at 8:00, actress maggie gyllenhaal on her latest role as a british-israeli heiress. has the fight for personal space on planes reached its breaking point? we have another incident, joe -- >> one of those gadgets they put -- >> i'll let you know in just a moment. but the plane was diverted and the passengers irate. and then what would you do if you found an eight-pound
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time to take a look at the morning papers. "usa today," i found it interesting that they don't even have the lead story of of renewspaper above the fold. you have to go below the fold to find out about the beheading. secondly, on a very different note, the family of "the new york times" art section, jeff tweety of wilco doing an album. pretty cool story, runs in the family. let's go to our parade of
papers. "the washington post," another flight was diverted after customers fought over a reclining seat. this time a flight from new york to west palm beach diverted to jacksonville on monday night. >> come on people. >> diverted a flight, guys. the angry passengers was allege ledley sleeping with her head on the try and claims to have been hit on the head when the person in front of her reclichbed their seat. the passenger became irate, yelling and cursing at flight attendants and demanding the plane land. she was removed -- i have ideas. >> she might have been awoken out of a deep sleep, taken ambien or something. >> i can tell you, that is a tough flight. i'm just going to tell you. flying from new york to west palm, i've flown on a lot of flights. i'm a florida guy, by new york to west palm, that is a tough flight. ask the flight attendants.
they will tell you. >> why? >> it's a tough flight for flight attendants. they don't like taking that flight. >> what are you talking about? >> you know what i'm talking about. "the chicago tribune," thomas has this story. >> for health nults, cvs pulled tobacco products from its stores, announcing plans to change the name to cvs health. this moves comes as drugstore chains hope to refocus the image of the health care company. this tobacco ban means the retailer will walk away from $2 billion in annual revenue that tobacco brings in and will offer programs for customers who are looking to quit. cvs is the second largest retailer in the nation -- >> do you know what's getting
your mind off tobacco if you're smoking a lot, heroin. you completely forget about a need to grab. >> renaming itself cvs health. >> we should rename ourself "morning joe fat." >> no. the toronto star, justin bieber, he's in a little more hot water. >> just lock yourself in your -- >> an atv accident in canada over the holiday weekend. the troubled pop star was arrested after a crash with a minivan and has been charged with dangerous driving and assault. >> do they celebrate labor day in canada? reports say after the crash he got into a physical altercation with the minivan's driver. >> i'm going to go to the -- i'm
bored. the jackson claren ledger, alligator hunting season this weekend in mississippi. a 792-pound gator, the largest caught in the state. it was his first hunting trip. but he managed to shatter the record made just the day before when a 756-pound reptile. that means there's big alligators out. >> that was his first time out. >> amazing. >> let's go to sports in los angeles. the los angeles dodgers may have beaten the washington nationals last night. but a pint-size hero from philadelphia stole the spotlight. mone davis was on hand to throw out the first ceremonial pitch. >> not surprisingly she threw a perfect strike after receiving a warm welcome, a standing ovation
from the crowd out there and both teams as well. she took a second to sign an autograph for one of her biggest fans. we have dodgers outfielder puig. she's the first female to pitch a shutout in little legal world history and to appear on the covering of "sports illustrated." why tom friedman is saying isis is not a threat to america's homeland. today's must-read opinion pages are up next.
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♪ our objective is clear, that is to degrade or destroy isil because it's not just there, but the united states. when this question was asked, i was specifically referring to the possibility of the military strategy inside of syria that might require congressional approval. it is very important from my
perspective that when we send our pilots in to do a job, that we know this is a mix that's going to work, that we're very clear on what our objectives are, what our targets are. we've made the case to congress and made the case to the american people. >> mike barnicle is with us. i said last week about the president saying we don't have a strategy, no big deal. i'm talking about in the grand sweep of things. at the end of day, we're going to move on isis. we just are. at the end of the day people aren't going to be looking back on that -- a lot of people looked at that and said he's talking about what strategy do we have so far for bombing syria. they haven't settled on a strategy yet but it's going to happen. >> the interesting thing he said last week was the reaction in the american media which was in some cases nearly hysterical. i'd rather the united states
have a methodical strategy that will work than helter skelter rushing off and getting involved in a situation that amon has talked about endlessly here that would only draw us into further conflict that we've been involved in now for too long. >> like we've talked about this morning, of course, those words coming back to haunt the president again. at the end of the day, american people don't care whether the president had a slip-up and said a line he shouldn't have said. they're going to care about action. >> you heard his clarifying those remarks in estonia just a few moments ago. "the new york times," eric cantor cashes in. eric cantor plans to join a bu teen investment bank. the wall veet journal reported mr. kantor has no previous experience in high finance or investment banking, but the reason is clear. the journal noted that mr. kantor has long been seen as a liaison of sorts between the gop
and wall street. basically he'll have the same job he always had, just make a lot more money. amen. >> not a big shock. >> did people expect he was going to open a day-care center? what is the deal? >> come on! >> of course he's going to go make money. >> you want him to sit at the corner and bang his head against the wall. dana milbank, you see the point in this? i'm not going to challenge you. "washington post," president obama's unnerving happy talk. i hope obama's chillax message is correct. the happy talk isn't working. following the admission thursday that we don't have a strategy yet for military action against isis adds to the impression that obama is disengaged. in short, americans would worry less if obama worried more. that brings us to thomas friedman. he brings up this in ready, aim,
fire, not ready, fire, aim. there are no words to describe the vileness of the video beheadings. i have no doubt they're get us to act ala 9/11 and rush off again without a strategy. isis is awful, but not a threat to america's homeland. i'm all in for destroying isis, i support using u.s. air fire and special forces to root it out, but only part of a coalition wherever bod which a stake in stability there and where sunni and shiites take the lead and demonstrate they hate more isis more than they hate each other. and sectarian passions and nothing good we do will last. >> tom just described the middle east. speaking of allies, we talked about it before here. the enemy of our enemy is still our enemy, but maybe --
>> threes something to be said about being cautious. >> no doubt about it. kim, obviously the united states rushed in. we have in the past. the question is now where you have the uae and egypt purportedly seeking out islamists in libya, whether we may actually be able to get some sort of support from arab states as well as europe before we do this? we can't do it unilaterally obviously, right? >> well, the u.s. is the largest superpower and it's done things unilaterally before, but this president doesn't like to act unilaterally. we saw that in libya in 2011. yes, i think it is absolutely essential to have a regional coalition, but also important to keep in mind that military operations and air strikes are just not going to be enough. we've talked about this in the past. it does require people on the
ground as well to rise up in a way against isis. in many places they r. you have to imagine if you can what it's like at the moment living in the middle east in areas that are either already under isis control or fear that isis might come for them next. i was speaking to a friend whose parents live in northern lebanon which is sunni. it could be fertile ground for isis. they are terrified that isis might come into lebanon. this group is ruling by fear, pure, shear fear. that's what's making it so difficult to get people to gang up together against isis. >> kim gattis, thank you very much. coming up, taking kiev in two weeks. vladimir putin says it can be done. what would be the fallout if he did that? "morning joe" will be right back.
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joining us now, senior editor for the new republic julia yaffi. >> great to have you here. vladimir putin says he can take kiev in two weeks. let's assume it isn't the usual blufter. what's the price vladimir putin and russia would pay for an invasion of ukraine? >> to me it sounds like a clear reference to 2008 when you had russian tanks within days of the outbreak of the war with georgia and russia, within days tanks were barreling down. but i don't think russia would have as easy a time in you crane given the casualties their troops and regions of pa paratroopers are having. i think it would be a far bloodier battle and would probably cost him a lot of
support at home. >> obviously it would cost him a lot more support, but he's already taken a financial hit by the miner incursions that have taken place that he's not even claiming right now. to go all the way to kiev, wouldn't that have an economic impact on russia that he would not want to face? >> i don't know that these economic sanctions, that it matters -- it's a price he's willing to pay. we saw it again in 2008. a lot of the western analysts were saying he would not innovate georgia, he would not do that because of the financial pain. he's shown time and again since then that he's willing to tolerate a certain amount of economic pain for what he says as geopolitical and kind of historical gain for securing his place in the history books as a man who gathers russian lands back under the russian -- the
moscow ground. >> he doesn't hold back in his talk saying he can take kiev in two weeks. i'm curious. i was so take n by am samantha powers speaking before the un, here is what she said again and then i have a question for you julia. >> instead of listening, instead of heeding demands of the international community and the rules of the international order, at every step russia has come before this council to say everything except the truth. it has manipulated, it has obfuscated, it has outright lied. serious negotiations are needed, urgently needed, but russia has to stop lying and fueling this conflict. the mask is coming off. in these acts, these recent acts, we see russia's actions for what they are, a deliberate effort to support and now fight alongside illegal separatists in another sovereign country. >> julia, why do i feel like i haven't heard world leaders come together and say this and say
the truth about putin? >> i think because they're still trying to find a way out of this conflict. i think they're trying to keep a lid on it and trying to find some kind of off-ramp. samantha powers is completely right, these comments that he could take kiev in two weeks if he wanted to, that's a red herring. that's him blustering. there are russian soldiers, paratroopers dieing by the hundreds at this point in ukraine. there's russian artillery, russian tanks inside ukraine. that's much more serious than what putin said, kind of an off-the-cuff remark to the head of the eu. there are russian coffins coming home now. that's much more important. >> julia, thank you for being with us. coming up, the one issue that could bring about an upset in the midterm elections. we have an exclusive first look at the new george washington
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crack. chris christie said i'd love to know if there's any nuds of me out there. been a while since i've seen south jersey, if you know what i mean. vladimir putin said don't judge size of my gun by hacked pick. it was during last cold war: anthony weiner said please no one look at my leaked photos, especially not by hacking my phone at 616-555-0100. everyone's got an opinion. >> i think he's so funny. jimmy fallon. the republican party is expected to make gains in these november midterms. according to a new poll it isn't all doom and gloom. here president and ceo of the terrence group, ed gowess and president of lake research partners, salinda lake. great to have you on.
>> thank you. >> good news for both parties. ed, we're two republicans that go way, way back. let's talk about the poll we're looking at. what's the republican party's biggest weakness? >> well, i think the biggest weakness is we need to keep the focus on the president and kind of the direction of the country. if you look at the poll, there's not much weakness for republicans. we have an intensity that's 12 points higher than the democrats. we're beating them for the first time ever in our polling on the generic pal lot. >> here we have standing up for the middle class, the gop 37%, the democrats 52%. >> what you have to do on that particular question is look at where is the middle class on answering that question. what you have is low income respond overwhelmingly for the democrats. middle class voters are split. middle class voters give the president a 51% disapproval on standing up for the middle class. >> let's talk about foreign
policy. obviously salinda, president obama, 58% think he's not doing a good job. how does that influence the other polls? >> we need this election to be focused on domestic policy. >> when you see we? >> democrats. democrats need -- what we need is two months of really focusing and the president focusing on a middle class economic message. >> that's kind of hard to do when the world is on fire, doesn't it? >> it gets hard because every day he gets pulled back into leadership and foreign policy. voters aren't voting foreign policy in this mefrm election. they're voting their own pocketbooks. >> we put wrong track, right track, overwhelmingly americans think we're in the wrong
direction. >> all these numbers very negative for the president. what do you think the turnout is going to be? low? >> i think traditionally is about 50% of registered voters in a non-presidential year, about 70% in a presidential year. i think what we're seeing here, why we look at intensity so much. all the key groups that were the president's key groups in the last election, young voters, african-american voters, single women, are all substantially lower than the republican base. >> we expected tom cotton to be way ahead right now. we expect the republicans to be doing much better in kentucky which is still tied. a lot of red states where republicans aren't pulling away. why is that? i'll start with you, salinda. >> voters are upset with both parties. voters are more anti incumbent than they are anti one party or the other. >> ever seen it this bad?
>> i've never seen it this evenly bad. >> it's a race to the bottom, right? >> it used to be, well, my guy is good, now they put their guy on notice. if you're an incumbent congress person running, that's not a good badge of honor. >> usually a zero sum game. a republican president goes down, democrats go up. vice versa. it is now throw the bums out. a lot of people even not liking their own congressmen. >> it really isn't. >> why? >> if you look at our survey and the internals, one of the things you get in the public polls that are out there, they're not looking at the intensity that changes the numbers somewhat. if you look at the competitive senate seats, that generic ballot that we lead by four points grows to a 12-point lead in those states. >> ed, here we are -- what's today, guys? >> september 3rd. >> it sound like, ed, two days after labor day you're
predicting a big republican win. >> particularly in the senate. >> so republicans win the senate? >> i think we do win the senate, and i think we may even have a couple of seats to spare. >> you look at this poll that came out, you think it's great news for republicans? >> it's -- across the board, if you look at the president's numbers, you have to look at the intensity of its measurement, very good for us. >> why is this poll good news for democrats? >> i don't think it's good news for democrats, there if we get the turnout corrected and we've been practicing a long time, particularly with the obama team, then this race evens up. we are ahead on social security and medicare. this is an older electorate. in 2010 we were behind on social security and medicare, now we're ahead on social security and medicare. it's a middle class election. >> this is fascinating. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up at the top of the hour, taking on isis.
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this next story is great, helps put things into perspective. at 17 years old mike branigan has become one of the country's top high school runners despite being dying northwest with autism at 18 months old. kate snow has more. >> for mike bran gan, running has always been as natural as breathing. >> he just stood up as a baby and started running. >> reporter: but something wasn't right. >> he would run into the walls. he would fall and not put his hands down and smash his head. >> reporter: diagnosed with autism, by 6 he still wouldn't talk unless prompted. but one day on the playground monkey bars, a breakthrough.
>> he was hanging there and said help me. i fell to my knees. i knew everything would be okay. >> reporter: a couple years later his father brought him to a running club and mike took off. >> the coach came up and said this guy can run. >> i always want to go faster. >> reporter: now he's ranked one of the top ten high school runners in the country. >> i do have to do some things to kind of slow him down. >> reporter: he wants to go faster. >> reporter: this june he ran a 4:07 mile. the sport has transformed his academics and given him confidence. >> reporter: are you friends with your teammates? >> yes, i'm friends with them. we have a good time. >> reporter: do you think autism makes you a better runner? >> a better person. >> reporter: a better person. >> every time i brought him to a race or practice, he was just a regular kid. and all the other stuff that
goes on, everything goes away when he's on the track. >> reporter: more than 200 colleges have reached out. >> i have to tell you names. duke, georgetown, syracuse, wisconsin. >> reporter: to succeed, he'll need academic support, but mike has even bigger dreams. >> the olympics. >> reporter: do you think you can do it? >> i can do it. >> reporter: how cool would that be? >> that would be pretty awesome. put that in the books of history. >> mika, you've been running your entire life, your family runs. >> i'm the mother of two track runners. >> what an inspiring story. talk about when you go out there, how it is -- it's the great level -- >> i think it is. not only is that boy's story amazing and i connect with it so much because evidence i've seen what track and a great coach can do for a child, what a sport and a great coach. in my case in track, it can
literally change their future. >> mike, you see the father's tears there as he talks about how far in those moments his son is like the other kids. >> that story is one of the principle reasons why the news business will always survive because people like to read about people and people like to see stories about people who struggle and over come their difficulties and achieve success. that's what that story is. >> we want to be inspired. we want hope. >> we had the wonderful story out of idaho of the two brothers. these are stories that stay with you. they're also the stories we don't hear enough about that happen every single day across america. >> exactly. unfortunately there are times when we're faced with absolutely terrible news, and this morning is one of those mornings. the front pages of the newspapers in new york, the "new york post" and "the daily news," obviously highlighting the
tragic, tragic news out of the middle east yesterday. the "new york post" with the headline "this won't stop until we stop them." "the daily news" references the president's press conference last week "do you have a strategy now, mr. president?" the president explaining he does have a strategy, the strategy is to make sure isis pays for what they've been doing, to stop them from killing more americans and more westerners. but for people that expect the president of the united states to shoot first and ask questions later, don't understand how complicated this conflict is. you just don't know. you also don't understand what's happened in america over the past ten years. we are a war-weary nation. and it is better for us when we are facing a threat like isis, a threat that could be existential
for a lot of people living in new york, a lot of people living in washington, d.c., that we get it right the first time. yesterday i was talking to somebody who was asking me whether new york was still a safe place to live. i said, of course, new york is still a safe place to live. let's not overreact to this. mika had somebody else shaken up, right, mika, that talked to you that was shaken up by what they were seeing. there is this feeling that americans get, and sometimes americans get it before politicians in washington even get it, that this time it's different. this is a terrorist organization that's not only not a jv squad, they're not like other terrorist organizations. they are growing like an infection spreading across the middle east and they want to spread across the world. unlike the taliban, they want to kill americans in our homeland. >> the president was asked if he wants to destroy isis or just
contain it. he was in estonia doing a press conference with the leader of estonia this morning, very early hours. and he again called it a cancer, something you have to contain. not sure if it's possible to ultimately get rid of the remnants, but that it must be contained. >> but the clock is ticking. when you have a terrorist organization that has hundreds of millions of dollars, the ability to take over chemical plants, a terrorist organization that has hundreds of american passports, hundreds of british passports, this is a cancer that you can't let lay dormant. this is a cancer that has to be cut up. and i support the president trying to get arab nations to fight with us side by side, trying to get european nations -- i'm sick and tired of europeans sitting back and doing nothing, turning the other cheek as vladimir putin kicks them in the face time and time and time again because of money. in this case, guess what?
iraq is not our problem. this ain't 2003. it's 2014. europe, this is your problem, too. it's a middle east problem. more muslims are going to be killed by isis than westerners. so if you guys are sitting back waiting for us to carry your water again so you can bitch and moan because you don't like the way we carry your water when we try to keep you safe, you have another thing coming. like the president talked about doing it in libya where he waited until the arab league came, i think we need to let the world come to us and ask us to carry their water again like we've been doing for about 60 years now. so we'll see. >> i think that's what he's doing. among other things, joining us this hour we are eugene robinson in washington, investigative reporter for reuters david road is here as well. u.s. intelligence officials are confirming a video does, in
fact, show islamic state militants beheading a second american journalist in syria. isis says it murdered 31-year-old steven sotloff in response to u.s. air strikes in iraq. sotloff was kidnapped last year in syria. the killer says, quote, i'm back, obama, with the same british accent as in the names foley video. the video appears to be shot in a similar locations with both hostages wearing a get more-like jumpsuit. hours after the video emerged, president obama ordered 350 more americans to iraq in non-combat roles. while in a trip through europe the president spoke about sotloff's murder offering harsh criticism. >> whatever these murders think they'll achieve by killing innocent americans like steven, they have already failed. they failed because, like people around the world, americans are
repulsed by their bar barrism, their horrific acts only unite us as a country and stiffen our resolve to take the fight against these terrorists. those who make the mistake of hafrming americans will learn we will not forget and our reach is long and justice will be served. >> let's bring in nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing traveling with the president this morning in estonia. chris, obviously in new york city, a lot of headlines, "the daily news" 13e6kly asks the question, do you have a strategy now, mr. president? the president explained those comments but a lot of people inside the white house feeling pressure to respond to this barbaric threat coming from the middle east. what can you tell us? >> i don't think there's any doubt, joe, that the pressure is building at home and abroad. you heard what the president had to say this morning, the intention is to degrade and destroy isis until it becomes, in his words, a manageable problem. but talking to senior administration officials, they'll tell you a couple of things. one is that this has not changed
the white house view of ice sis or the threat it poses. you've heard he's not changing his approach to all of this. his intention when he leaves here in estonia is to go to nato, to talk to other countries, to get them on board. there's certainly no indication in spite of the fact that we know that the pentagon and intelligence officials have drawn up plans of possible isis targets in syria that any decision has been made to move on that. i think it's also worth noting that the same video that he spoke of and all of us have been so repulsed by has been part of the propaganda arm of isis which has been extremely effective in recruiting not only folks from that region, but also western fighters, and one more note i would want to make that is one of caution as well is that isis still holds a small number, probably two american aid workers and three british
citizens. so that also weighing heavily on the president here. mika, joe? >> chris jansing, thank you so much. i want to go to washington, d.c. and eugene robinson. talking about not shooting first and asking questions later, talking about -- the president slipped up on friday. he said a line he shouldn't have said. we talked about it, it was inartful. at the same time, this is a president facing some trouble, calling them the jv team. he has "the daily news" which isn't a conservative publication asking, do you have a strategy yet, mr. president? other sthan tom friedman this morning, there are a lot of those saying isis is not a threat to the homeland, a lot of americans are starting to feel that way. what does a president need to do to break out of this image he has that he's just a little bit too laid back, just a little bit too removed, just a little too
distanced when we have a situation scaring a lot of americans? >> i thought that clip we just heard, joe, of the president speaking in estonia was pretty forceful and pretty direct and showed resolve and how seriously he's taking the situation. i think that's the way he has to speak about this as he goes about implementing, and we talked about this last week. what is the outlines of a plan which involves getting our allies in the region and our allies in europe to come in and to at the very least assist and join in the campaign against a threat that is frankly a much greater threat to them than it is to us. i think he also needs to make that clear. i agree that certainly in the short and medium term, perhaps not in the long term, isis is much more of a regional threat
and a threat to europe than it is to us. >> mike? >> david, what goes through your mind when you hear, read, see stories about what we've witnessed over the past couple weeks? you were held captive. what goes through your mind about this? >> how brave steven sotloff and jim foley were. you see them in these videos. the words are gibberish, it's all scripted, they're forced to say these things. my guess is they're threatening the other hostages saying if you don't say what we want you to say, we'll abuse them. it's so frustrating to me because steven sotloff loved journalism, he went to the region, covered civilian deaths bravely. jim foley was an incredibly courageous captives. he challenged his guards, may have been why hifs killed first. i hate to see them reduced to this image on the front page of the newspaper. i don't want these guys to win. and this british guy is just
despicable. this is a public murder. when i was in captivity, it struck me how these were just kids, like 20-year-olds who were playing a game, wasn't it great to have a prisoner and they could feel strong and powerful. i agree we need to wait and think this through, but not let them win, not let them define these young men. >> talking about that, these are just kids, you're talking about the terrorists. >> yes. >> they're caught up in this and it's like a game to them. >> it's a great thing, they're part of this great global movement, and they believe it, to defend islam from a christian, jewish, hindu conspiracy to ob late rate their faith and culture from the face of the earth. none of it is true, but they're in these little bubbles. they're a threat, but they control these pockets of territory. it's very difficult to get at them, but we're talking about
17,000 isis fighters. that's a lot, but that's nothing compared -- >> perspective. >> meanwhile, we know now and wes, let me ask this of you, because the president has authorized 350 additional u.s. military personnel to go into iraq. these forces are being sent there to protect our diplomatic facilities and personnel there in bagdad. this is while the president, as we saw in estonia this morning now traveling on to wales and to facilitate talks with our nato allies. but the clock, as joe points out, is ticking. and while the president doesn't want a singular strategy, how long do we wait to come up with this coalition of the willing, an international force? >> well, i don't think there's any question amongst either americans or international forces that we can be strong, that we can be tough. the question really comes now what does it take for us to be smart. as we're looking and putting more intelligence on the ground so we can know exactly who can
we target and who are our partners in the region, we know a true long-term strategy has to include turkey, has to include what's going to happen with syria, has to include what's going to happen in iran and iraq and saudi arabia. that's the type of coalition. that's the kind of groundwork that has to be laid out. i don't think there's any question to anybody that isis knows that we're coming and we're coming strong for them. this is what we set up for. >> you do think that, wes? you think -- the "new york post" this morning "this won't stop until we stop them," you do think the president, you do think americans are ready to go after isis? >> there's no negotiation with isis. there's no table talk signing that's going to happen with isis. we know there's only one final conclusion of what's going to happen with isis. but the question we then have to think about, we can eliminate, we can kill thousands of isis militants within a matter of 15 minutes if that's what we chose to do right now. but if we do it, we have to
think about what are the long-term consequences. for example, when you look at isis, they use social media in an extraordinarily effective way. they go after the diseffective. with our military capacity, are we not creating more diseffectives, a larger and longer problem we have to deal with later on. turning to the other big stories, the head of the cdc says the window to stop the ebola outbreak in west africa is closing. at ground zero for the disease in west africa, food shortages are complicating the situation as the death toll mounts. a man reportedly wandered out of a clinic in liberia creating panic in the streets as health workers in yellow suits tried to corral him. the latest person to be dying northwest, another american doctor, obstetrician who reportedly was not working in an ebola ward. meanwhile, dr. kent brantly whose unlikely recovery captivated the country explained
his ordeal in an exclusive interview with nbc. >> there was a time in liberia when you were really sick that doctors didn't think you would make it through one of those nights. were you aware of that? >> yeah. >> did they talk to you about it? >> i don't think they ever said, kent, i think you're about to i die, but i felt like i was about to die. and i said to the nurse who was taking care of me, i'm sick, i have no reserve and i don't know how long i can keep this up. i thought i'm not going to be able to continue breathing this way and they had no way to breathe for me if i quit breathing. the fallout continues from the celebrity photo hacking scandal leaving many americans leery about the security of cloud data storage. apple is denying its cloud service was breached saying instead that the accounts were compromised by targeted attacks on celebrity's user names and
passwords. jennifer lawrence, kate upton and others are threatening legal action against anyone who reposts the photos. the hacking scandal even reached major league baseball. detroit tigers pitcher justin verlander refused to comment on photos of him and kate upton saying, quote, my personal life is my personal life and i'm focused on baseball. >> mike? >> well, j. v. takes the hill tonight. we'll see if he can focus on winning tonight. >> he's a likable guy, but i wonder if he's not going to get taunted around opposing ball parks wherever he goes. the signs, i don't want to even look at the signs. allegations of dirty politics in alaska as one of the candidates is accused of willy horton tactics. actress maggie gyllenhaal joins us in our 8:00 hour.
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let's bring in pentagon press secretary rear admiral john kirby. good to have you on the show this morning, sir. we sent more people to iraq. what's the next step as we take on the threat of isis? >> we continue to hit isil targets in iraq, continue to conduct humanitarian missions. the extra personnel will be added security assistance for the embassy complex and in and around bagdad, a security sort of defensive posture, that's their job. obviously won't be going into any combat.
>> admiral, a week or two ago you had the secretary of defense saying isis was the greatest threat to the united states since 9/11. is that how the pentagon sees this threat? >> what he said is this is a group like nothing we've seen before. he's referring to the manner in which they fund and train and equip themselves and the fact that they're grabbing ground. this isn't like any terrorist organization, they want infrastructure. >> what do they have that other terrorist groups haven't had? we understand they have hundreds of millions of dollars and a lot of american passports. what makes them a greater threat? >> first of all, that are well resourced, they're well trained, they're well led. they in many ways act like an army of sorts. they want to take territory. they want to govern in a very brutal, horrific way. the other thing is they have as pir rations to hit western targets. while they pose a regional
threat inside iraq and to the region, they have aspirations of going after western targets, including american targets. we have to be mindful of that threat. the foreign fighter issue is one that's very real. you saw this play out in great britain last week and one we have to watch closely as well. >> admiral, to the best of your knowledge on the ground, the territory that they have seized and hold today, you mentioned the word govern. can they govern? they're brutal, say tifts, can they govern? >> they can't really govern. the ultimate way to defeat them is defeat their ideology. their ideology is already being rejected, not just by shia or kurds, but by sunnis as well. ultimately they will fail. in many ways they have failed. their tactics are so horrific that they're not gaining much support. i don't think that this is a
threat that's going to be, in terms of years and years and years, but it's certainly one we have to worry about right now in in the region. >> admiral, we appreciate you coming on. with us from cleveland, democratic senator from ohio, sherrod brown. sherrod, we have lots of issues, i'm a republican, you're a democrat. you're a white castle guy, i'm akrystal guy. one thing you and i agree on, if burger king makes this move, either of us will ever eat a whopper again. >> i like what i'm hearing. >> i want you to tell us why congress and the president can't come together and stop american companies from going to other countries and basically making the rest of ufs pay their tax bill? >> well, we could. it would be an easy fix. we have legislation that's going to be introduced next week
dealing with intercompany debt limits by and large. we can close these tax loopholes, the problem is certain interest groups fight it, number one. number two, a number of people in congress say we shouldn't do it unless we have a grand bargain, unless we do major tax reform. a number of things, likes like when burger king basically renounces its citizenship, moves its headquarters on paper, saves tax dollars or a company shuts down in ohio and goes to beijing, they get a tax break, we should be eliminating those tax breaks immediately as we work on long-term tax reform. we aren't as competitive as we could be and should be. >> senator, a lot of republicans and democrats both agree on some basic outlines. they think the corporate tax rate may be too high and maybe it needs to be lowered. i heard the president talking about that. i've heard democrats talking about it, heard republicans talking about it. but why can't we get this deal done right now? we're not going to get a major
deal before this election? maybe we get it next year. why can't we do it now and what do we lose if we don't get it now? >> if we don't do it now, we see companies, looking at burger king, burger king says "do it your way," but they want to have it both ways where they benefit from the transportation infrastructure, meat inspection, national defense while they let other people pay the taxes as they renounce their citizenship. that's a good question. we ought to take some of these that are particularly egregious tax loopholes, close them for whatever reason, interest group pressure in congress, we can't do it. we've tried over and over and fasted a filibuster on closing a loophole. if a company shuts down in dayton and moves to china, they can deduct the cost of the move, deduct the cost of the new plant. we should have, this stead of the way we're doing it, we should have a global minimum tax. we've seen by partisan agreement on that so companies want to
invest here, give incentives to come here, not to go overseas. that's fundamentally the difference. >> i'm going send you a krystal burger next week. i think it's god's food. have you ever had one? little square -- >> i have had one. white castle is a poor man's krystal. >> the problem is one leads to another leads to another. >> been to the varsity? >> i have. >> as they say in atlanta, it's good. still ahead, senator mark begich tries to take down his opponent with a tough new ad. did it cross the line? >> like a willy horton ad. new details in the deadly arizona shooting involving a 9-year-old girl. we have the police report. the fight for scotland, is the country closing in on a break from the uk? all that and more when "morning joe" returns.
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america would be four. the 14th most prosperous country can cut it as an independent country. >> that was the first minister for scotland here on "morning joe" on april talking about the push for scotland's independence. joining us here on the set, the leader of the uk independence party, nigel barage. >> you were planning to go to scotland, you think the effort to save the union has been a lackluster effort. >> lame. >> lame. led by career politicians who are dull, car characterless. i think the better together campaign has been very, very weak. the real point is having an independence referendum, salmon wants to break from westminster and wants scotland to be part of the european union. he doesn't want independence at all. a very false debate.
>> why shouldn't scotland be independent? what's the downside of that? >> i believe in natural self determination. if scotland wants to be independent, that's fine. i think they're being sold a pig in a poke, they're being told they can be independent and be members of the european union. if you're members of the eu, their courts superimpose over yours. it's a false proposition. >> when you go back about six days before the referendum, are you going to be concerned about having troubles? because you had some, hounded by protesters, you have to run and seek refuge somewhere. this is not an easy task. >> not a tea party. >> it was horrible. the police locked me in a pub for my own safety. >> how terrible is that, right? >> at least it was a pub. >> it was pretty cool. you know, nationalism, a sensible degree of naturalism is a good healthy thing. we belong to something, we respect something. excessive nationalism is
dangerous. salmon has stirred up an anti english hatred. it's pretty unpleasant. i have no doubt i'm in for a rough time. >> mike? >> if the independence vote wins, what difference on a daily basis would that make for the average life of a person in scotland? >> well, i personally think that the economic sums that salmon is putting wouldn't add up, they would lose the english subsidy. they wouldn't get any subsidy from europe because now we've let very poor countries in like romania and bulgaria. i think on a day-to-day basis, very little change at all. actually they have a fair degree of autonomy already. i think down the road, i see it as a country that would face very serious economic problems. it's all well and good to talk about oil, oil is diminishing. >> economic problems. schools, welfare? >> the welfare cuts in scotland are huge, well over 50% of the people on scotland are living on benefits of some kind, and i don't see a very left wing
leader -- salmon is a very left wing leader, basically a former communist as a youngster. he's not pro business, not pro deregulation and i don't think scotland would -- >> let's go to gene robinson. you were a reporter in london for quite some time. a fascinating development. also, the independence party, fascinating that it is grabbing a lot of attention for its -- for being euro skeptics. >> euro skepticism is a great hobby, great uk hobby. i did cover the uk. i was struck when i was there at how many scots saw themselves as having almost a scandinavian orientation rather than looking toward the south. we're a northern country, too. would tlnt be an impact on the use of the pound, the british pound and the question of whether the bank of england
would guarantee, for example, scottish debt, would there be a currency union with england or the rest of the u.k. or would they be looking for a currency union with the eu in using the euro? how would that work? >> i think the truth of it is for salmon to rejoin the european union which is his stated aim, he would have to sign a treaty that would commit him to joining the euro. if you're in the euro, you don't control your own xhuk and monetary policy, it's decided someplace else. he's not offering any genuine form of independence. i believe in uk independence, i want the united kingdom to be a free country where we trade with europe and make our own laws. we make one call that we got right, we didn't join the jury row, thank goodness for that. >> nigel, thank you for being on the show this morning. great to see you. a buckingham palace guardsman shows some new moves. he may be in really big trouble.
nigel, is that okay? see what he's doing there? he's doing a little dance. >> no, it's not okay. >> he's doing a peer pir row et. >> royalty should be above all of it. he's regal. >> so you're stunned, shocked and deeply saddened? >> i don't approve. >> we'll have that story coming up. ninl el, you might want to live a little. >> you got me. >> don't you just want to be happy? don't you want one of those guys to break down and do a jig? >> not really. >> have them crack a smile, nigel. look at you. doesn't it feel good? >> we'll be right back with much more "morning joe." denver international is one of the busiest airports
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one of the senate contests, in alaska turned ugly because of an ad compared to the infamous willy horton add. democratic senator mark begich released this ad criticizing dan sullivan for his record as state attorney general. >> i want to show you a crime scene. i was on the anchorage police force for 20 years. i don't know how long dan sullivan lived in alaska, but he led a lot of sex offenders get off with light sentences. one of them got out of prison and is now charged with breaking into that apartment building, murdering a senior couple and sexually assaulting their 2-year-old granddaughter. dan sullivan should not be a
u.s. senator. >> sullivan's campaign went up on the air with their own rebuttal immediately pointing out a clerical error was to blame for the murder suspect's early release before sullivan took office. now the family of the victims has asked the campaigns to stop or risk jeopardizing the trial. kasie hunt join us us from washington along with steve smith here onset to talk about this. >> steve, your record is fair game, right? this is a tough ad? >> very tough. >> it is a very, very tough ad. mitt romney had tough ads run against him. this is politics, right? >> i think that ad is both fair, tough and effective. the problem is if the victim's family starts to weigh in and says no more, then you have to take it down. but the candidate crying about that ad doesn't seem to be very effective to me because that ad seems to be both credible, real,
tangible and probably have an impact on real people. >> kasie, the problem comes when you actually have the family of the victims saying stop exploiting our loved ones' death for your political gain. take us to that side of the story. >> sure. that's kind of what has hung the begich campaign up here a little bit. this is obviously an ad they put up at labor day, it was something they knew they had. it was something the sullivan campaign knew was coming. they had an immediate rebuttal for it. there were some democrats in washington thought this could be the silver bullet for beg gish, it would ultimately take sullivan down. then an attorney wrote to the begich campaign saying, quote, your campaign is playing poor politics at the ex-tense of my clients and frankly has done only what is in the best interest of mark beg gish rather than protecting the victims of the most serious crime in alaska
history. it's pretty tough. begich's campaign tried to finesse this in the beginning when initially on saturday they asked for this ad to be taken down. ultimately they removed all sign of the ad. you can't find it on the internet. they removed the research that backed up the ad. they clearly had to take maya culpa on this. it's being viewed as a campaign that has otherwise been sure footed. >> i think you have to apologize to the family. when the family weighs in with something like that, you certainly from the republican perspective, you have the rest of the campaign made for you. campaigns are fundamentally about character. you have every ability to decimate this character on the basis of his running that ad with the family's comment. it's a huge deal. >> let's go from alaska to north carolina, another contested race where the democrat is fighting for her political life.
senator kagay hagan is taking a swipe at tom tillis for gutting. >> i'm megan, a teacher who lives in kerry t. money that should be going to public education instead seems to be going to corporations, millionaires. the education cuts have impacted my ability to make a difference by raising my class sizes, getting rid of my teacher assistants i have for help. i have no textbook to teach from. >> you don't have a textbook? >> i don't have a textbook now. when i'm asked who is responsible for these cuts, it's tom tillis and his legislature. >> obviously kay hagan, another one fighting for her political life in a red state. >> i don't think it's effective. look at what's going on in the world. when you look at this -- when you look at this and trying to run ads on education funding, i think it rates hollow. democrats are doing everything
they possibly can to localize these elections, localize them on issues that are as close to these communities as possible, distant from washington as possible. there's chaos going on in the world. >> the cast of the world soefr taking -- >> it's overwhelming and overtaking. >> just like in 2008 you guys were slammed, the mccain campaign was slammed by the financial crisis. >> i think it might even be worse. >> this is worse. >> i think it's worse. everybody is very invested in the washington anecdote that this isn't going to be a wave election. i think it's going to be a weave election. >> for republicans? >> absolutely. this wave is going to build late, break late and i think it's going to carry in republicans like ed gillespie. >> kasie hunt, you obviously got us this ad, thank you so much. it's about education. follow up on what steve schmitt said. this summer we saw gaza on fire, we saw obviously ukraine on
fire, but nobody was talking about it on the campaign trachlt our friends are calling us asking if new york is a safe place to live. i'm wondering are you starting to hear on the campaign trail some of these candidates talk about isis, terrorism, talk about protecting the homeland. is this campaign going to start being about foreign policy a little more? >> i think you're seeing washington, senators not necessarily out on the campaign trail start to talk about this. i think there's still a lot of hesitation on the part of candidates because they're still seeing in their polling data that people don't want america to get more involved overseas. that said, i think what you've seen with these horrible beheadings over the course of the last week does indeed have the potential to sort of start to change this on the ground. steve was talking about in particular, senator hagan has a pretty aggressive interest in making this a local campaign, about education instead of the national issues. her race is the one that's at most risk of being nationalized
and at most risk of having the president impact her. >> kasie, thank you so much, steve, thank you as well. congratulations -- we saw you were doing a little work for a governor no texas. that's some of the best gorilla marketing i've seen in my life. we republicans usually are the stupid ones that over reach. the democrats in austin -- >> it's absurd. we don't indict people in this country over political differences. >> no doubt about it. we'll be right back. that's only 4 points? with weight watchers you can enjoy the food you really want. dine out on favorites or cook up something new. i can do this every day. join for free and start losing weight now. learn how to eat healthier while enjoying the foods you love. get inspired at meetings, online, or both. hurry, and if you join by sept 13th you'll get a free starter kit. weight watchers because it works.
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♪ here with us now, "fortune" magazine's assistant managing editor leigh gallagher and editor in chief of food and wine, dana cowin. the list of most powerful women, the food and drink innovators. i like it. now why, leigh, focus on women in this category here? is there some sort of trend happening? >> well, yes. as you know we've done this list of the most powerful women in business since 1998. dana had approached us. i think she can speak a little bit to this but there was a feeling that in the food and wine world, women were starting to do so much more, as they are everywhere. >> you know, when you think about food and wine, though, what do you think about? you think of these british chefs
on food networks, yeah, you have the worst restaurant or the fat guys sniffing wine. this has always been a really -- >> this is much better to look at. >> it's always been a man centric world like chefs. >> and you go way back and it was all about the women. it's the grandmas. but as the world has progressed, it's all about the guy chefs. the gods of food were all men, but they're not. the women in this world are extraordinary. they're policy makers, they're chefs. >> give me the best example. who is the one woman that everybody needs to know in this area? >> oh, my gosh. i'm going to start with cheli pingree. >> get out, are you serious? >> i know. i was surprised myself. >> this has a lot of interesting people. it's not just chefs. >> so here's the thing. the woman is a farmer, an
organic farmer. what is so important in the world of food and wine right now is local food. you're a farmer, they need support. the farmers need support, the small farmers. and what she's done with the farm bill, which comes up every five years and came up this year, she had at least half of the proposals in that bill. >> give us somebody else. >> okay. so christina tocie goes totally on the other side. she has changed the world of sweets. >> it's important to me. >> it should be. crack pie, so she's taken what you think of as cookies and turned them upside down, inside out, put everything from coffee to corn flakes to chocolate all in the same thing. >> how important has the farm-to-table aspect of cooking and serving food become? >> it is pujly important. it's going to change the world
because we have to know where our food comes from. the farmers need to grow great food and it's going to change that we're having a healthier nation, a better-fed nation. >> rachael ray on the list? >> rachael ray is on the list. talk about a classic chef and someone who introduced the world to evoo. i am a huge rachael ray fan, always have been. she's also getting into more businesses. like her pet food businesses. you had her on. >> and ate the pet food. >> one person on the number one spot is ertharin cousin, she's an incredible woman. >> thank you guys so much. you can read the list of the most powerful women in food and drink industries online at fortune.com. >> next time, bring wine. >> crack cookies are coming your way. >> seriously. >> i get the cookies.
wine for her, cookies for me. coming up at the top of the hour, after a second u.s. journalist is killed by isis, is it finally time that u.s. officials admit that we are at war with the militant group? the chilling details the u.s. intelligence community is now confirming. and then a truce with vladimir putin, but for how long? why a cease-fire -- it's not even a truce between russia and ukraine may not be what it seems. plus -- ♪ on my way ♪ >> jimmy fallon's wheel of musical impressions. "morning joe" will be right back. (woman) the constipation and belly pain feel tight like a vise.
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all right. so the story, the one story that you need to see before the top of the hour that many of us have been lucky enough to go to london and see, or we can see physically right here -- >> do it. >> that's it. buckhingham palace and those guards patrolling outside. there was a recent trip where we can see a man in a pink sweater dance. this was a trip caught on youtube that a guard made for spectators. here he's just patrolling normally, right? so then he gets a little creative. he goes left, he goes right. well, now to the delight of fans
watching, spinning, spinning. >> he did not miss a beat. >> no. and unfortunately for the guard, though, "the daily mail" is reporting that the ministry of defense has an internal investigation going on now. >> britain is investigating this? they have got a lot bigger problems right now. >> isis or the guard who decides to do a pirouette. >> the queen was not at home at the time, she was not at the palace, she was vacationing in scotland. what happens to him, not sure, but he did put on a good show. >> i love him. >> they're doing an investigation over this? thank you so much. i'm so glad you're done with that story. did you see me dance in this pink sweater? >> i think you did a good job. >> you know what, you wear a pink sweater one time, one time. the next hour of "morning joe" you know what it does? it starts, my friends, right now.
the united states will continue to lead against the kind of barbaric, ultimately empty vision that isil represents. >> the u.s. is forced to react to the execution of yet another american. >> this time american journalist steve sotloff, just 31 years old. >> the killer claims to be the same man who murdered james foley, speaking with a british accent. >> the militants hold at least two other americans, their fate unknown. >> isis, what are we going to do about it? >> we've got to have a goal and a strategy to fit that goal. we have none of the would have. >> i love the quote of benjamin franklin, we'll all either hang together or hang separately. i'm signed up for hanging together and facing down the threat. that's not just good politics, it's good for america. >> president obama has just authorized sending approximately 350 u.s. military personnel into iraq. >> to protect the u.s. embassy and the baghdad airport. >> absolutely there's a strategy
for our approach to the middle east. there's not going to be a military solution to this. we're not the answer to isil. >> the ukrainian army was involved in some of the bitterest fighting yet seen in this war. they were racing a rebel army bolstered by reinforcements of russian troops seen crossing the boarder. >> this after russian president vladimir putin reportedly told a european official he could, quote, take kiev in two weeks if he wanted to. >> to go all the way to kiev, wouldn't that have an economic impact on russia? >> it's a price he's willing to pay for securing his place in the history books as a man who gathers russian lands back under the russian -- the moscow crown. >> welcome back to "morning joe." aging soccer star ayman mohyeldin is back with us. so all-american soccer player in high school. >> a little bit. >> say how it ended. >> how did it end? >> i was drawn to the lure of journalism. >> oh, really? i thought you said you were
partying too much. >> i wanted my life to have meaning and purpose. >> you said you went to college, you got drunk and ended up a journalist. i think that's everybody's story, right? we also have gene robinson in washington, d.c. gene, always good to have you here. thanks for being back. let's figure this out. okay, we've got to crack the code. what is isis? is isis, ayman, like the new grave threat? or are they a jv team? obviously they don't look like a jv team. we've been showing this morning all of the horrible, horrible images. mika and i were talking a couple of hours ago about our friends calling us up asking if america is next. they seem to be a grave threat. they want to kill a lot of americans. and yet david rohde who was captured in afghanistan said they're only 15, 16, 17,000 of them. we could blow them up if we wanted to. >> i think that's a very simplistic approach. i think i would look at it as
intent and capability. >> what's a simplistic approach, the 17,000? >> no, that you just blow them up. >> and we have the pentagon saying there is not a military solution to this. >> exactly. the thing that comes to mind is you have to look at isis on two levels. its intent, what it wants to do. >> what does it want to do? >> have territory, establish an islamic state, it wants to put a lot of people under its control. >> kill a lot of westerners. >> absolutely. that's the way it wants to do it. that's not the objective but it is willing to kill westerners if it means doing what it wants to do, which is establish the state. the question is does it have the capability to do that. >> do they want territory more or do they have this grandiose idea like osama bin laden who wants to blow up big buildings in america? >> they want the territory so they can do that and expand their ideology. if that means attacking america or western interests, they'll do that. if it gets in their way, they'll do that. >> what's the end to this? we saw actually the precursor to
this in iraq back in 2004, 2005, 2006, but, you know, everybody always talks about what caused the arab awakening, what happened with the sunnis in western iraq. i think a lot of it was overreach of al qaeda in iraq. when they blue up the joer drda wedding, you could almost sense a revulsion by a lot of people in iraq saying we don't love the americans being here, we hate them being here more. >> these guys are killing more muslims than they are americans. they don't have broad acceptance and appeal in the muslim world. you've got to put the muslim world all the way to indonesia. they don't necessarily have public appeal for their ideology but they do have enough support to continue this fight inside iraq and syria because of the political vacuum that now exists. >> all right, on that note, u.s. officials are confirming this morning that a video does in
fact show islamic state militants beheading a second american journalist in syria. isis says it murdered 31-year-old journalist steven sotloff in response to u.s. air strikes in iraq. he was kidnapped last year in syria. hours after the video emerged, president obama ordered 350 more american troops to iraq in noncombat roles. earlier this morning while on a trip through europe, president obama spoke about sotloff's murder offering harsh criticism of isis' actions. >> whatever these murderers think they'll achieve by killing innocent americans like steven, they have already failed. they have failed because, like people around the world, americans are repulsed by their b barbarism. we will not be intimidated. their horrific acts only unite us as a country and stiffen our resolve to take the fight against these terrorists. those who make the mistake of harming americans will learn that we will not forget and that
our reach is long and justice will be served. >> moments ago here on "morning joe" the press secretary for the pentagon explained why isis remains such a threat. >> first of all, they are well resourced, as you pointed out. they are well trained. they are well led. they in many ways act like an army of sorts and they want to take territory. they want to govern. in a very brutal, horrific way. the other thing is they have aspirations to hit western targets. so while they pose certainly a regional threat inside iraq and to the region, we also know they have aspirations at going after western targets, including potentially american targets. >> the neocons are saying the president is too weak. a lot of people on the left don't want the president to do anything at all. what would you do if you're in the president's place, what would you do? >> i think what he's doing. i think what he's doing is following the bush 41/james baker model before the first gulf war and assembling a real
coalition. the saudis have to play a part in this, the kuwaitis, the egyptians, the jordanians and they have to speak up and actively involved because isis isn't just a threat to iraq and syria, not just to the middle east, it's now a global threat. ukraine and russia's presidents have reached a deal for a permanent truce. that's according to ukraine's president, anyway. president putin and poroshenko spoke by phone and the head of the ukrainian government announced they had come to an agreement. but the kremlin quickly poured cold water on the announcement that saying only steps to peace had been discussed and insisted that russia is not part of the conflict. the. the family of the 9-year-old girl who accidentally shot and killed her instructor with an uzi at a firing range last week is being heard from for the first time. according to the police report, the parents say immediately after the shot was fired, their daughter hit the ground and they feared she was injured.
after learning she was okay, she told them the gun was, quote, too powerful for her. amid the chaos, the parents say they were unaware the instructor was injured and were able to remove their child from the scene before she saw what happened. the family says they are devastated over the accident, calling it a life-changing tragedy. the fallout continues from the celebrity photo hacking scandal leaving many americans leery about the security of cloud data storage. apple is denying its cloud service was breached, saying instead that the accounts were compromised by targeted attacks on celebrities' user names and passwords. jennifer lawrence, kate upton and others are threatening legal action against anyone who reposts the photos. the hacking scandal even reached major league baseball. justin verlander refused to comment of photos of him and upton saying, quote, my personal life is my personal life and i'm focused on baseball. >> you're a detroit guy.
do you want to see any news of justin verlander? >> i don't. i'm not sure he's focused on baseball after some of the recent performances. >> exactly. there actually is a guy -- i forget the story here, but when they threaten legal action, that ain't nothing. thomas, i saw some story about a guy who posted something illegally, a hacked photo of somebody, got ten years in prison. like the whip is coming down. like you do this, you're going to jail for a really long time. >> yeah, this is a bigger issue than whether or not people need to be shamed about whether they took pictures of themselves. >> nobody feels ashamed for them. >> i don't want to see it. >> say you buy the body issue for "sports illustrated." what's the difference? >> i'm not here to have a debate about people taking pictures of themselves naked. you keep wanting to say they shouldn't have been naked. fine. seriously, what's your deal. i don't really care. if people want to take pictures without clothes on, that's their
business. it's kind of stupid. >> it is. it's a cloud. how does a cloud keep anything. >> exactly. clouds don't keep anything. you know what -- >> if you want them to be private, they need to be like -- >> my point was if you do this -- >> you're going to get caught and i hope you get caught and i hope you pay a price. >> and if you get caught, you're going to get sent to jail for a very long time. and the point is not these people should be ashamed of their bodies, they should be ashamed of their brains but it's a very, very stupid thing to do. a federal jury has not yet reached a verdict in this mcdonnell case. i think that's good news for bob mcdonnell. >> really? >> bob, he's for jobs. he's also for staying out of jail. >> he's trying. so they spent about five days it is so far deliberating the corruption case. >> mike, that's good news for mcdonnell, right? >> i've always thought you never know with juries. it depends on the food. did they get a good lunch, did they get a good dinner.
>> gene, what about you. you're close to the situation down there. you're at least in the area, the general vicinity. >> yeah, the jury just went out, so this is just the second day now of deliberations. they deliberated part of yesterday. and so i'm not sure that's good for either side. but the judge's instructions were very good for the prosecution, because they -- he essentially told the jury to give a very broad interpretation of official acts. essentially they have to prove that the governor committed official acts to support this businessman who was giving him all this money and all these loans and all this stuff. >> you think that's good for the prosecution? i think that's good for the defense because you've got to show the quid pro quo, right? >> yeah, but the definition of official acts, if it's just that bob mcdonnell had to sign a bill in favor of jonnie williams, that's a slam dunk for the defense because he didn't do that. but he opened the governores mansion to him.
he in many ways promoted this snake oil that williams was selling and in fact -- >> that's what happens in businesses all the time. i'm not defending bob mcdonnell. i'm just saying if i'm a juror i'm sitting there going, well, wait a second, did he do more for this guy than he did for another? >> and the judge's instructions said it doesn't have to be any more than he does for other people, it just has to be something that he did for him and it doesn't have to be signing a bill. it can be other things that you wouldn't necessarily think were an official act. that was a very good instruction for the prosecution. >> all right, we'll be watching that deliberations continue. yet another flight was diverted after customers fought over -- >> stop it, come on, you people. >> oh, no, no. oh, no, no. >> stop. >> it no, no. these people are stuffed in there like sardines and these airlines need to start making planes that you can sit in without getting hurt, okay? >> especially if you're 6'4". >> especially if you're sitting next to someone who's 6'4" and
has a temper. >> does ayman have a temper? >> that was a bit of a dig. >> i can't believe you're coming as a guest and she's attacking you. >> my back, my back sglurts this time a flight from new york to west palm beach made a stop in jacksonville monday night. the angry passenger was allegedly -- listen to this, mike, sleeping with her head on the tray and claims to have been hit in the head when the woman in front of her reclined her seat. that could hurt. >> oh, stop it. >> stop whining. >> by the way, there's nowhere to go on these planes. >> stop whining. let them land. you're in jacksonville. you're 30 minutes away. >> oh, my gosh. >> according to witnesses, the passenger became irate, yelling and cursing at the flight attendant demanding the plane land. >> and they landed? >> let me tell you something. when i'm on a plane, i have one job, right? my job is to keep my head down, read a newspaper, be quiet and be ignored. >> too bad when you're reading the paper your head is hitting
the seat in front of you because you're so stuffed in there. >> that's my job. my dad, he was just the opposite. you get on airplanes, it was a nightmare. he was sitting one time next to mcgyver. he's reading his paper. and he's like i know who you are. i'm like, dad, shut up. i know who you are. one time he didn't get upgraded, he read. >> here's a toothpick, a peppermint patty and something else. now make me this. >> put that down your throat. >> he didn't get upgraded and what happened? >> one time we're flying back from san francisco and they flew all the time, right? they fly all the time. so they'd always get upgraded. frequent flyers, automatic upgrade. didn't get upgraded this one time. i had just gotten into congress. >> 29 years old. >> i was a coach guy. i'm sitting back in coach. >> do you know who i am? >> my dad -- no, i don't do that. i keep my head down. i keep my head down, i say
nothing. my dad starts going i've been a delta flier for years and my son is a congressman. >> i got up from the back of the plane, i sprinted. i was like bob hayes in the '68 olympics. you shut up. my son -- and then my mom comes in. well, it is terrible that they are treating congressmen's parents -- shut up! sit down and shut up! you are so disrespectful, joe. it was a horrible flight back. i went back -- i was like i don't know them. i don't know them cross country. i went back to the back of the plane and i did what i do on airplanes, which is this. >> the key is no eye contact. no eye contact on planes and always have this. >> okay. do they hit you in the head, mike? no. >> take the bolt bus if you're afraid of the seat hitting you. stop lying on the tray. >> mika, nobody would ever like
hit you in the head reclining because you're always in first class going to the south of france. >> stop it. >> gene robinson, thank you for being with us. i'm sorry you had to experience this. this is very sad. coming up next, family secrets -- >> i think we just shared those. >> murder, affairs and kidnappings, all while trying to bring peace to the middle east. maggie gyllenhaal is with us. first, as president obama prepares to send more troops to iraq, we'll sent anthony zini what he thinks of a boots on the ground strategy. >> he's the man. >> we like anthony.
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whatever these murderers think they'll achieve by killing innocent americans like steven, they have already failed. they have failed because, like people around the world, americans are repulsed by their barbarism. >> here with us now, former commander in chief in u.s. central command and special envoy to the middle east, retired four-star general anthony zini. he's the co-author of the new book "before the first shots are fired, how america with win or lose off the battlefield. " very good to have you on. >> thanks for being with us. americans obviously war weary. we've been occupying for ten, 11, 12 years. they just don't want to go to another war, fight another war in ear muslim country. what are our options? >> i think in this case we don't have any options. this reminds me of al qaeda in
1998 when they stepped onto the world stage. if you remember back osama bin laden made announcements that they had the right to the islamic bomb and now all americans, even nonmilitary were viable targets. i think isis has moved into a different stage. they were able to capture a number of conventional weapons so they made a land grab into a vacuum and made this stupid statement about a calafate. one is they'll continue to get americans and do this. you'll find an embassy attacked or wherever tourists are. i think the danger too is in baghdad. i don't think they can take baghdad, but they can certainly infiltrate it and cause enough chaos it would become dysfunctional. that would create a problem for iraq as a state. i think the saudis, the kuwaitis are desperately worried. >> are they going to get involved? is america going to find itself
in a position where we have to carry everybody else's water? because we can't do it unilaterally. >> i agree. we shouldn't do it unilaterally. but i think we could take a good lesson from george h.w. bush administration where we built an islamic coalition. remember, general schwarzkopf -- >> the president is criticized by everybody, but he's not firing first and asking questions later. he could actually be trying to build that coalition. >> but there's a time factor here. it's wonderful to deliberate and i appreciate that. the whole premise of the book is think through what you're going to do. but we're running out of time and space, literally both. there has to be immediate action. now, putting these another 350 troops down, which i assume are for security and target acquisition and intelligence and all that, but there's a crisis here if we don't get them -- isis out of iraq right now. >> so could this emergence of
isis onto the world stage, this escalation, could it have been avoided in your estimate? >> i don't think it could have been avoided. obviously the situation in syria was breeding this. i think that maybe the moderate opposition should have stood up to the extremists within syria. assad played this very well. he didn't attack them, he allowed them to grow and fester, i think wanting us to get involved, so i think his strategy was much more viable. but we're looking at genocide here. the yezidis, if we haven't learned from past incidents where we stood back, when i say we, i don't just mean the united states. i'm waiting for this u.n. resolution. where is it? we should be pressing the u.n. to authorize use of force which would give us -- i think the gulf countries and others, that u.n. resolution gives them cover for forming a coalition. that's what gave it to them in the first gulf war.
>> general, off your experience, given the scope, the pace, the resources that isis clearly has right now, do you think in riyadh, saudi arabia, that they fear that eventually they'll come for the throne and, thus, saudi arabia has a larger stake now in the fight against isis than they did when president george h.w. bush and jim baker were putting together that coalition? >> i think they definitely do. there's always been a fear, obviously, of an internal problem, where disenfranchised youth, radicalized youth, they have done a good job in saudi arabia controlling this and really understand their own population. but there's a fear that this could become a wave that washes down the gulf and eventually comes to their backyard. i think that's greater now than it might have been in the past even with al qaeda. >> general, when you take a look at the big picture in the region, and we were talking about this israeli announcement of the new settlement and appropriation of land, how does
that create a ripple effect that then plays into the hands of groups like isis? >> i think it's clear this was a move out of either frustration or revenge for the killing of those poor young american that were killed that made this all kick off. but it's a disastrous move. there's no need for more room for settlements. anybody that's studied the settlement issue knows that most of the settlements are not full. the demographics doesn't mean -- it doesn't show that the israelis need more space. >> so what's the long-term impact of that? what does it do to the two-state solution? >> well, here you have the west bank. this wasn't gaza or hamas controlled, he grabs parts of the west bank this is the beginning of the end of the two-state solution. >> does it kill that? >> i think it can. >> and is it all because of netanyahu's weakness at home? >> i think he's playing to his constituency. he didn't destroy hamas. in many ways hamas comes out maybe with a psychological advantage, although a military
defeat. and that's frustrating, i know, for the israelis. >> all right. the book is "before the first shots of fired." general anthony zini, thank you so much. >> general, we'd love to have you back. >> please come back. coming up, as little girls across the country of still singing "let it go," i've heard that a few times, there is more "frozen" on the way? up next, actress maggie gyllenhaal takes on her most challenging role yet in "the honorable woman." she joins us next on "morning joe." take and... exhale.in...
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they don't want to choose a palestinian, they want an israeli. >> it doesn't matter what anyone wants. >> we want you to choose a palestinian. >> i will choose whoever best protects the aims and ideals of this company. and nothing you or anyone else wants will affect that decision. >> you cannot choose an israeli. not after this. >> i'll choose exactly who i want. >> then you will have made a mistake. >> and if i do, at least it will be mine. >> that was a seen from sundance tv's "the honorable woman." the star, oscar nominated actress maggie gyllenhaal. we asked you why did you pick this and you said because it was so much better. it's an eight-part mini series, the bbc and sundance coming
together. it couldn't be more timely. here we have ayman reporting all summer long on what was going on over there. it couldn't be more timely, could it? >> well, yes, when we made it in 2013 it was a relatively calm time, but obviously i'm sure you would agree you'd have to have your head in the sand not to know that this was a part of the world that was going to blow up again. and i think that's part of why hugo blick, who wrote and directed it, took it on as the subject of the piece. >> you have a very complicated character, and the beginning of this series really starts with a very graphic scene that really in part shapes your life. tell us about it. >> well, the character i play is the daughter of a zionist gun runner. he's killed in her in the very beginning of the piece. it's giving a tiny bit away but
that's in the first few minutes. i guess i think so much of this conflict is about what we've inherited and about the history that comes along with it, and so for nessa, i think she is trying to subvert what her father was doing, which was so much wrapped in violence. >> she inherits a lot of money, becomes a baroness. >> what do you hope people will take away -- i know you don't want to give away everything that happens, but what is, i guess, your biggest hope in what a viewer takes away from this? >> you know, i've been watching it with my husband, who hadn't seen it, so we're up to episode five, which is as far as -- >> is he a tough critic? does he go, boy, you were pretty good in three, but four -- >> that's got to be complicated having him watch you. >> he's the only person in the world actually who i really care what he thinks.
i mean he's an actor. but i mean truly, truly down to like the very nitty-gritty. but anyway, i've been watching it and we're up to episode five. i just watched it first on my ipad with not the right sound and not color corrected. and i've noticed that there are things that nessa says, that the other characters say, that the piece says that aren't part of the discussion in this country, that aren't allowed to be said here. that if i said right now on your show, i don't know, it would -- >> they would drag you off kicking and screaming. >> there would be a lot of intimidation. but i think somehow -- i don't know how hugo did it, but the show, which does not take a position, which does not take a point of view and say this is right and this is wrong, but instead i think lays out elements of the conflict, it does it in a way that it seems at least so far like people can hear. >> you're going to have the more honest conversation.
>> how does playing a role like this shape your own personal outlook about such a complex issue? were you at all concerned about taking on a role at such a controversial topic, everyone has opinions about it? >> yeah, i think i feel much more emotionally attached and connected to it than i did before when i started the show. i knew as much as anyone who has two little kids and tries to read the newspaper every day and just does their best and now i'm like obsessed reading the news about what's happening over there. it does break my heart in a way that it didn't before. and also i think it's taught me something about -- i mean it's like truly taught me something about compassion. i do think it's very difficult in this situation to have -- you know, to be one-sided or to believe that this is what's absolutely right or this is what's absolutely wrong. i'm constantly kind of slightly
shifting my feelings about it and my thoughts about it all the time. >> thomas. >> i wanted to leave on a final question for you, because you are read in and proven highly intelligent. there's been a big debate about the hacking issue of the icloud and certain celebrities that have been unfortunately exposed, certain pictures that have been put out there for the public to consume. what's your take on that, and should people feel ashamed that they have been hacked and these things have been exposed or is this just a true privacy violation? >> well, i just started rehearsal for a play yesterday and before that was on vacation with my family and literally have just been reading the news on my iphone and didn't click on any of that. i watched it on your show this morning and it sucks. i think it's not -- i mean privacy -- listen, i think privacy is incredibly important and i think that echos all over this country and this world and i think i'd be so incredibly
upset if that happened to me. but i don't know anything about it, to be totally honest. >> she's an honorable woman. >> i want to read this really quickly from mpr. "the honorable woman" takes you places tv seldom ventures. not only to the tunnels under the gaza strip and i couldn't believe i was seeing scenes set in those tunnels after they figured so prominently in the news, but to the deepest fears and hopes and dreams and despairs of the show's character. you can catch "the honorable woman" on thursdays at 10:00 p.m., 9:00 p.m. central on sundan sundance. >> does your husband like it? >> i think so. >> we are going to catch up to maggie and her husband. we've got to get through like six very quickly. great to have you here. coming up "the tonight show" rolls out another great celebrity game with the help of maroon five's adam levine. plus there is possibly another retail credit card breach that has millions of consumers worried about the status of their personal information. >> where's it at now? >> good lord.
we'll tell you which major store may have been hit this time. stay with us.
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especially bad timing for aem because next week they're expected to announce a new iphone with a virtual wallet. this should serve as a virtual reminder if you put your personal information on someone else's servers, you're at the mercy of that company, whether you like it or not. >> you love apple products. you use them to share your life. all of your life. and since you've saved your photos to icloud, we have them too, and you can never delete them. now buy the new iphone and the nine iphone that say come after that, or we'll send them to your grandma. >> why, megan! why? oh.
fred, fred, come here! >> apple. we've got you by the nuts. >> that is fantastic. >> welcome back to "morning joe." in just a minute we're going to show you kate snow's really moving package. a young boy with autism who is just a track star that's being actually pursued by a lot of really big colleges. it's a remarkable story, you're going to want to see it. first let's talk to brian sullivan with cnbc. not so inspirational, but he's got some news, first of all, about small business. how is small business doing, brian? >> apparently doing better than apple right now, guys. small business borrowing rose to a seven-year high. >> that's great news? >> it is good because it's not like borrowing from a house to buy a boat, this is to expand, to build new factories, to open new stores, so hopefully this will portend, big word, some hiring coming up. >> all of that may mean more jobs for americans that desperately need more jobs, good-paying jobs. let's talk about we've got another one of these breaches. >> i want to know who.
>> we had a problem with target, you had problems with other stores. apparently another huge chain having another big data breach. who this time? >> it's a locally owned its hardware store called home depot. >> oh, wow. >> you guys might be familiar with. guys, there's some discussion -- a lot of reports out there, data breach may have been occurring since late april, early may. >> no. >> apparently some russian or ukrainian gangs started to sell huge batches of your credit card information. the question is just how big and widespread was it. there have been some reports that suggest it could be as big or bigger than that massive target breach last december. between that and the apple story as i tweeted out this morning, i'm going back to cash, a land line and a '77 chevy vega. i'm done. >> that's the message of the day. brian sullivan, thank you very much. okay, now this, at just 17 years old, mike brannigan has become one of the country's top high school runners and he's done so despite being diagnosed with autism at just 18 months
old. nbc's kate snow has more on mike's story. >> reporter: for mike brannigan, running has always been as natural as breathing. >> he just stood up as a baby and started running. >> reporter: but something wasn't right. >> he would run into the walls. he would fall and not put his hands down and smash his head. >> reporter: diagnosed with autism, by 6 he still wouldn't talk unless he was prompted. but then one day on the playground monkey bars, a breakthrough. >> he was hanging there and he said, help me. and i fell to my knees. i started crying in the park. i knew that everything was going to be okay. >> reporter: a couple of years later, his father brought him to a running club, and mike took off. >> the coach came up to me and said this guy can run. >> i always want to go faster. >> reporter: now a senior, mike brannigan is ranked one of the top ten high school runners in the country. >> i do have to have some things to kind of slow him down.
>> he wants to go faster. >> reporter: go, mike, go! this june he ran a four minute 7 second mile. >> are you friends with your teammates? >> yeah, i'm friends with them. we have a good time. >> do you think autism makes you a better runner? >> a better person. >> a better person? >> every time i brought him to a race or practice, he was just a regular kid. all the other stuff that goes on, everything goes away when he's out on the track. >> reporter: more than 200 colleges have reached out. >> i have to tell you names. duke, georgetown, syracuse, wisconsin. >> reporter: to succeed, he'll need academic support, but mike has even bigger dreams. >> the olympics. >> do you think you can do it? >> i can do it. >> how cool would that be? >> that would be pretty awesome.
put that in books of history. >> his autism made him a better runner and it's incredible, a better person. for people who don't follow track, a 4:07 mile, stunning. >> i think i would have collapsed if i were his parents watching that race. just collapsed. >> mike, it's an incredible story. >> yeah, and these are the stories, we've talked about this before, these are the stories that give vibrancy and life and hope for the future of the news business because, again, people -- in newspapers they like to read about people, on tv they like to hear stories about people, people especially whose lives have been altered by no fault of their own and lifted by their own strength and their own character. >> unbelievable. >> okay. >> i hope everybody has enjoyed that because it's sort of cleansing. >> yeah, it is. >> now we're going to get dirty again because you know what's coming up next. >> why would we do this?
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i wish i had a car like that when i was a kid. with a parent liyou're probably deathy tired of hearing this. ♪ let it go, let it go ♪ >> all the characters make their return in "frozen fever" set to debut in 2015. it will include a brand new song from robert lopez and kristen anderson lopez. "frozen" generated $1.3 billion for disney so i'd say that's probably a smart play. >> i've heard that song so many times. >> let it go, joe. finally, we all know about jimmy fallon's talents when it comes to musical impersonation. i think his david bowie impersonation is unmatched but last night adam levine gave him a serious run for his money when the two played a game of wheel of musical imimpressiopressions
>> it's time for a new game. here we go. >> thanks, sinatra. singing head, shoulders, knees and toes. >> sounds great. >> could you like give him something to start off with. >> let's take that bass line along. there we go. ♪ head, shoulders, knees and toes ♪ ♪ head, shoulders, knees and toes ♪ ♪ yes, shoulders, knees and toes ♪ >> bob dylan -- bob dylan singing "rude" by magic. ♪ why you gotta be so rude
♪ don't you know i'm human too >> michael jackson -- sesame street. ♪ sunny day, sweepin' the clouds away ♪ ♪ on my way to where the air is sweet ♪ ♪ can you tell me how to get, how to get to sesame street ♪ >> i think adam levine won that one. joe, i'm waiting for you to give us a little paul mccartney. >> what's that? >> i'm just waiting for you to give us a little paul mccartney. >> oh, come on, joe. >> the dylan thing was great. >> dylan was good. >> i like sesame street. >> a little stevie wonder too. >> a little bit. >> they were fantastic. >> all right. coming up next, what, if anything, did we learn? >> oh, we learned something. >> a lot. >> yes, we did. we'll be right back.
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ever happened during the day, you're ahead on the day. >> i was thinking about it and i didn't want to piece it together but i was thinking as i was watching that kid aawe sicutism asked did it make you a better runner and he said it made me a better person and i immediately thought of a grown person flying from new york to west palm and stopping a plane of 250 people because they were awakened. what did you learn, thomas. >> something about "honorable woman." maggie was great and ayman and maggie follow each other on twitter. >> what did you learn? >> so i've known my best friend since we were 10, which would make that 37 years. in 37 years i have never gotten her birthday right. >> so today. >> is her birthday. j. laura urlacher, happy birthday. you're 47. get used to it. it sucks. >> by the way, let me just say for a brzezinski to remember a
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