That word tonight but its the president of the United States. Today he denied by the way using the word shole to describe countries in africa during a meeting with lawmakers yesterday tweeting this morning, quote, the language used by me at the daca meeting was tough but this was not the language used and despite the reports that the president said, quote, why do we need more haitians . Take them out. Trump said i never said anything derogatory about haitians but it is a poor an troubled country. Never said take them out. Made up by dems. Probably should record future meetings. Unfortunately no trust. We dont have a recording of that meeting. Would be nice if the president did record some of these meetings so we wouldnt be deliberating about whether he said these things but there were Seven Members of congress in the oval office with the president yesterday. Two of them, senators tom cotton and david purdue, say, get this, they cant recall the president saying those comments specifically. These guys have bad memories if they cant recall him saying shole of people from a continent and heres illinois senator dick durbin today. I cannot believe that in the history of the white house in that oval office any president has ever spoken the words i personally heard our president speak yesterday. You have seen the comments in the press. Ive not read one of them thats inaccurate. To no surprise the president started tweeting this morning, denying that he used those words. It is not true. He said these hateful things. And he said them repeatedly. My colleague, republican senator Lindsey Graham of south carolina, spoke up and made a direct comment on what the president said. For him to confront the president as he did literally sitting next to him took extraordinary political courage and i respect him for it. Now, senator graham subsequently released this statement following comments by the president i said my piece directly to him yesterday. The president and all those attending the meeting know what i said and how i feel. Ive always believed that america is an idea not defined by its people but by its ideals. A septemberment shared by dr. Martin luther king jr. This is what the press pool asked President Trump after the ceremony. Mr. President , will you give an apology for the statement yesterday . Mr. President , did you refer to african nations, did you use the word shithole to refer to african nations . Mr. President , did you say no, the president mr. President , are you a racist . All of that really happened. Joining us now, sam jean is an attorney born in haiti and emigrated to the United States with his family and brother a musician. Host of the giles files podcast and Mark Thompson host of make it plain on sirius xm radio. Thanks to all of you for spending this friday evening with me on a conversation i would have never predicted we were going to have. Sam jean, more than 800,000 people of haitian descent in the United States, probably more once you go back further. Mr. President , are you a racist . All of that really happened. Joining us now, sam jean is an attorney born in haiti and emigrated to the United States with his family and brother a musician. Host of the giles files podcast and Mark Thompson host of make it plain on sirius xm radio. Thanks to all of you for spending this friday evening with me on a conversation i would have never predicted we were going to have. Sam jean, more than 800,000 people of haitian descent in the United States, probably more once you go back further. What is your reaction . Well, my reaction is the reaction of any decent person would be, haitian, american, kenyan or canadian. Its disgusting, vile and racist. I dont think that we need to ask the president whether hes a racist or not. The president s words, they speak for themselves. Its bigotry speaking for it ooitsz. I think the problem we have most of all we know what the president is. Hes been having this conversation. Hes been saying these things for three years. What i want to know is what the senators, the representatives, the members of congress, what they intend to do to stop this man. Yep. Because this man is doing this because he knows, he can say whatever he wants, and there are no consequences to the words that he uses, the bigotry that he espouses. This is an interesting point. We have lots of evidence, lots of examples of Donald Trumps racism over the years. Including on the day that he launched his presidency. He said lots of things that were eight people in the room. Seven legislation lay or thes and one was dick durbin and lind si graham. Two senators, nancy, saying they dont recall. 24 hours ago. We had paul ryan, everybody was waiting to what paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell would say. This is paul ryan. I read those comments later last night. So first thing that came to my mind is very unfortunate, unhelpful. Whether youre coming from haiti, we have got great friends from africa in janesville who are doctors, who are just incredible citizens. And i just think its important that we celebrate that. Some of my best friends are some of my best friends. Thats interesting. Unhelpful. Unhelpful. That was my first thought. I think thats unusual to sams point whether youre canadian, kenyan, american, haitian, the first thought isnt unhelpful and kind of gross. Gross, outrage. Yeah. I can say it to start with im grateful dick durbin was in the room and i dont think if he was if he was not in the room wont have the story from anyone. Wont know what happened. Im sure the conversations gone on for quite a listening time so, a, my hats off to him. Paul ryan is just hes a weasel. Im sorry. Maybe at one point he had a bit of a spine but even looking at the body language, hes cowed. Hes like its an embarrassment and silence is complicity. That was my first thought. I think thats unusual to sams point whether youre canadian, kenyan, american, haitian, the first thought isnt unhelpful and kind of gross. Gross, outrage. Yeah. I can say it to start with im grateful dick durbin was in the room and i dont think if he was if he was not in the room wont have the story from anyone. Wont know what happened. Im sure the conversations gone on for quite a listening time so, a, my hats off to him. Paul ryan is just hes a weasel. Im sorry. Maybe at one point he had a bit of a spine but even looking at the body language, hes cowed. Hes like its an embarrassment and silence is complicity. He had a spine for several hours after the access Hollywood Tape came out. A few minutes. Suddenly nothing phases him. The issue, mark srks that wasnt i heard on fox an anchor a bar talk and what americans do at the bar. Americans at the bar arent making my immigration policy. This was actually a highly specific conversation between the president and senior members of the legislative branch to design immigration policy. Well, as the naacp defines racism and white supreme sy is prejudice plus power. Power. So he makes the statements. We have known it. Not breaking news. Correct. That hes a racist. We know what he is. But he has the power to make policy. They were discussing policy. He talked the other day and said welcome to the studio. Well, why didnt he bring the cameras in for this conversation . Interesting. Say that in front of those cameras. I believe we never know how it impacts young people. To hear the president of the United States, young people had to fight against racism see the humanity condemned. What must it mean to hear him . We have to not only condemn him and counter what he said, i believe. These are not shole countries. Africa was the birthplace of civilization. Civilization. Where the stem fields were born. Which the greeks copied. The great explore a bbu kalli journeyed to Central America and met the Indigenous People and from whom they descend and establish trade before columbus was herd of in the 1300s. After slavery and colonization the haitians freed themselves and fought to save americans from british rule. Yeah. They fought with us. Thats who the young people but for the citizens, sam jean, in a sentence, the president can slur entire groups. He said of haitians according to the New York Times when talking about the 15,000 haitian immigrants with visas last year they all have aids. When talking about nigerians he said once theyve seen the United States they would never go back to their huts. He talks about mexicans as rapists. The point is this does while it must offend all of us two members of these groups it does serve to embolden the base in saying thats why we dont want haitians. Thats why we dont want nigerians and mexicans in this country. It is damaging. Its damaging but it speaks to the prejudice of the people that hes speaking to. What he knows is 36 of the people that support him engage in this kind of bar talk if you want to use that language. They engage in this kind of bar talk. It used to be that we would be appalled if the president of the United States had this kind of conversation. Not only the language but the sentiment. The nations top diplomat. Supposed to be talking about the best aspects of this country. What happens is when donald trump gets when donald trump is in a position where he is threatened or he feels threatens, he goes back to what he knows best and this is who he is. I could come up here and talk about the beautiful beaches of haiti, the mountains of haiti. I could talk about beautiful places in africa, tanzania. I could talk about all those things but the point is the man knows these things exist but it doesnt matter to him because the message that hes trying to convey to his base, who feels set upon by the browns, the black and the other thats right im son your side. This is not ignorance. This is not ignorance. No. I totally agree with sam. Its not. Its a concerted effort to put forth these vile and bigoted points of view and i have to say, you know, every once in a while you wish all black people were on the same side about any one issue and we are not a monolithic group but i looked around the room. I saw dr. Kings nephew, i saw ben carson and i was like, what are you guys even doing this there . How could ben carson tom. How could he stand there and say things like, the message of dr. King, equality, justice, the common dignity of man, you are jetbluely needed to heal the division, standing next to the most divisive person in the room. Surreal. And then i saw these other black folks standing around and applauding while he was ignoring the questions. Thank god for april ryan. I started to think do they work for him . I wasnt aware there were that many black employees at the white house or did he hire them like the extras . You heard april ryan, you know, aprils going to get an award for the type of work shes done in the last year. Bless her heart. She asked the president , are you a racist . President wasnt even facing reporters at this point. He turned the back immediately. We can probably show the video again. As the signing ceremony ended, the president turned his back and started walking out of the room. It is 2018. We have esteemed members of the press corps in the white house asking the president if hes a racist. We were talking before the show started. I thought racism was more sophisticated in 2018. This is this is decades old, centuries old and call people names. He is no longer operating from the sophisticated lee atwater play book sort to speak. If he ever was. Hes going right for the jugular and i love april. She was on the air on my show this morning driving to work at the white house and we kind of coenabled herself. You riled her up. Get this going. She said what she was on her way to cover that. But just as you mentioned, nancy, the people there and this is dr. Kings birthday week, also the anniversary of the earthquake in haiti and makes it even more despicable, sam jean. Let me just say. We look at his state of mind. Hes very insecure man. Hes insecure. Yes. About barack obama and kenya, the woman who beat him for the presidency and cant let it go and the beauty of the vast cultures he just insulted and so all of those who are insulted by him know that youre actually bigger than what he is. And dr. Kings own words, if it falls your lot to be a street sweeper or a bush in the valley rather than a pine on the hill, Donald Trumps words confirm, if that is your lot, you are still bigger than the tiny president. Sam jean, i was speaking to Maria Hinojosa and she said when you say shole what everyone focuses on but what he allegedly said about the haitians, why do we need more haitians here . Take them out. Take them out. Maria said it was like a gestapolike thing and i said thats strong to describe i. C. E. Employees. She said theres raids all week and arrests, and you see these people coming for you and they stop you on buses and they stop you on buses and bang on the doorls at night, thats the kind of thing that history makes your sam jean, i was speaking to Maria Hinojosa and she said when you say shole what everyone focuses on but what he allegedly said about the haitians, why do we need more haitians here . Take them out. Take them out. Maria said it was like a gestapolike thing and i said thats strong to describe i. C. E. Employees. She said theres raids all week and arrests, and you see these people coming for you and they stop you on buses and they stop you on buses and bang on the doorls at night, thats the kind of thing that history makes your mind think about. She says the take them out from a man who can actually order the removal of people from this country is something we should be paying more attention to. Yep. Its astonishing and its the way that the president operates, its very simple. As within of your guests pointed out. Hes an insecure man and not a well read man and not a deep thinker. Also not into nuance. He everything is a nail to trump and so he hammers everything. He doesnt even understand the nature of the consequences of the language that he uses because all hes interested in is playing to that base. Ill tell you this. Haitians dont care about donald trump. Okay in they dont care about donald trump. They have survived worse than donald trump. For decades. Yep. For decades, for centuries. They have survived worse than donald trump. But my problem is i want to know what is the Republican Party going to do with this menace at the head of the Republican Party . Yep. Sam is right. Menace. People dont talk like this. No. Normal, reasonable, rational people dont talk like this. Just to jump on something sam said, its just a great example of why education is so important because so many of the things that trump has said and are from ignorance, ignorance, narrow minded thinking and not intellectual curious and not caring about anything but what looks like him. Pathetic. Nancy, thank you for your time. We appreciate your spending sometime with us this evening. Coming up, a special last word of lawrence about an inappropriate president attacking the First Amendment. Next, is donald trump digging a hole to sams point that republicans have to climb out or does the president s base even care about all of this . Thats next. And later, the wall street journal report tonight that President Trumps lawyer arranged a 130,000 payment to a former adult film star to keep her from talking about trump during the campaign. Nbc news reporting that according to two sources close to the administration President Trump worked the phones last night calling allies outside of the white house to gauge a reaction to his shole comments. One source described the president s mood regarding the fallout and coverage of the comments as belligerent. Another source said that trump sought insight of the episode to resonate with the base. Few republicans weighed on the president s remarks. Mitch mcconnell hasnt commented yet. You heard House Speaker paurp say its unhelpful. Senator jeff flake said the words used by the president as related to me directly were not tough. They were abhorrent and repulsive. Can republicans dig themselves out of another mess created by this president . Its hard to say and wont make it easier. In another surprising revelation, nbc news reports tonight that during a march meeting with members of the congressional black caucus, a member related to President Trump that potential welfare cuts to hurt her constituents, not all of whom are black. The president said, then what are they . Joining us is jason johnson, editor at the root. Com and msnbc contributor and charlie sykes, author of how the right lost its mind and a msnbc contributor. Welcome to both of you. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Good to be here, ali. Lets start with you, jason. Where do you think we go from here if youre a republican . Is this concept of getting your agenda getting your agenda forwarded more important than basic humanity . Because we saw this play out with the roy moore saga. Well, yeah. Thank you. Good to be here, ali. Lets start with you, jason. Where do you think we go from here if youre a republican . Is this concept of getting your agenda getting your agenda forwarded more important than basic humanity . Because we saw this play out with the roy moore saga. Well, yeah. Look. Ali, it is really clear that most of the Republican Party is like, look, people who assault women, racist, terrorists sympathizers, accused pedophiles i can work with all the people as long as i get a tax cut and stop the Affordable Care act. I think as far as most mens of the Republican Party, not heard from mcconnell, paul ryan basically gave a very sort of flaccid limp wristed response and said i dont care. And this is bad and terrible and didnt condemn the president. Unhelpful. Nothing is going to change with republicans in washington but i will say this. Republicans i know, my former student who is are republicans, are saying this is embarrassing to them and this becomes a problem in the midterm elections. Charlie, lets say the president has 35 support if you look at various polls. Right. Lets say theres a 25 base that has nowhere else to go because they believe in ufos and barack obama is a kenyanborn muslim and 10 to play in there. People who want lower taxes perhaps or good old conservative principles pretty mainstream. Does this move them . Well, you know, this is, of course, the calculation we have been living with. And, you know, donald trump when hes on the phone hes thinking, does this play with the hardcore always trump base . But there are a lot of people who hold their nose and vote for republicans because theyre not democrats. And, you know, look. This is the price that the republicans are paying for going along on with this constant defining of deviance down. And the reaction of the republicans is far more disheartening than the fact that donald trump is racist. Thats not breaking news. Donald trump is who he is. It is the underwhelming response, the willingness to go along with this or the assumption on the part of republicans in fact this is the way republicans think. Look. Americans are fundamentally decent people. Most republicans are fundamentally decent people. The problem with donald trump is that not only does he appeal to the worst instincts, that he actually continues to move that window of what is acceptable and you think about from the Republican Point of view this was the week that donald trump was supposed to convince everybody that he was the stable genius. Right . Right. Ends the week restricting immigration of shithole countries and paying off porn stars and only the middle of jn. No kidding. Lets ask you this, jason. Jim re nancy of ohio, i think an accountant by trade, i sometimes have trouble getting him to stick to the truth on this show and now running for senate in ohio. And he had this to say about the president. Ive said all along the president many times says what people are thinking. I learned as a Business People to be careful. Judge the president after four years. Lets judge the president after what we have done. Lets not judge the president on what he says. Four years . My heads going to explode. Its been a year and as charlie says, on weekly basis you get you get this basket, this cart load full of nonsense to pull apart. That a fair analysis. Judge the president after four years . As a former ohio voter i would say no. We have seen who this president is and some of this i think its important. Its chuck d. Bass. How low can they go, right . How low can trumps base go to justify what he is doing . He doesnt have to defend this president in order to be successful in ohio. Ohio is a reddish purplish state and the real issue here and the real challenge for republicans and people to save this party in the future to realize you dont have to work with this guy in order to be a good republican. And to the degree that you continue to justify the behavior you downgrade the entire party. Republicans are about to become nonexistent in california out of the midterm and losing state level races they shouldnt because they refuse to get off the crack pipe that is the presidency and real things to do not at the expense of people of color. It is not a good thing for the world if the Republican Party has to disappear from the scene. We like debate. We like the idea that theyre going to be two sides to discussions. But the Republican Party may need to save itself before the midterm elections. Right. They may but the clock is running. They have had numerous opportunities to draw the line and they havent done it. They have entered into the bargain with the president and seeing right now the price of that going up all the time. The price of selling your soul. You get a lot of things you want and way more expensive. But i do think that analogy of california is absolutely correct. I mean, youre watching republican candidates around the country. Martha mcsally, establishment candidate in arizona, twisting herself into pretzels to not condemn this sort of thing. Theyre embarrassing themselves. Now this is this argument that republicans are making that, look, if you leave aside Donald Trumps tweets, hes actually delivering the conservative jend. Hearing it from david brooks and hugh hewitt all the time. What theyre missing is the way that donald trump is poisoning the Republican Party, poisoning conservatives. Yes, theyre getting some of the things they want but for a generation people are going to look at republicans and say, you stood with donald trump. When donald trump was saying these things and acting this way, you stood with him or you were complicit by your silence and theres not going to be much of a defense to that other than saying, well, yes, but we cut corporate taxes, right . Doesnt that cover for these kind of comments . No. Good to see you. Thank you both of you for joining me. All right. Coming up next, International Condemnation of the american president. Ambassador Wendy Sherman is here and an adult film star and 130,000 payout. That report is next. This isnt just a story there are two types of people in the world. Those who fear the future. And those who embrace it. The future is for the unafraid. All because of you hey, need fast try cool mint zantac. It releases a cooling sensation in your mouth and throat. Zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. Nexium can take 24 hours. Try cool mint zantac. No pill relieves heartburn faster. This isnt just a story about vulgar language. Its about opening the door to humanitys worst side. Its about validating and encouraging racism and xenophobia. That will potentially disrupt and even destroy the lives of many people. And thats perhaps a singlemost damaging and dangerous consequence of this type of comment by a Major Political figure. That there are real consequences to the president s comments is the point that rupert was making. He is the human rights commissioner, spokesman for the united nations. He was expressing some ooft reaction that the president s shole comment received from around the world. Someone started my shole and many twitter users posted some of the most beautiful pictures. Joining us now is ambassador Wendy Sherman and a msnbc Global Affairs contributor. Good to see you. Good to see you. After we spoke with morning, i had a conversation with Texas Democratic congresswoman Sheila Jacksonlee who said she really hopes that Rex Tillerson whos the boss of all the ambassadors comes out and speaks to haiti and el salvador and africa where some of our u. S. Ambassadors are being called in for explanations. And either apologizes to them or tries to explain whens going on. I thought to myself as she was saying that, i have a better chance of growing an afro than she has of that happening. But this is the antidiplomacy, right . Opposite of the soft power that the United States has worked 250 years to gain. Is supposed to do. Yes. It is quite extraordinary, ali. Not only do we not have ambassador slots filled all over the world as has been reported here and in our newspapers but the ambassadors we do have, the acting ambassadors, many called on the carpet today in bats with a that and senegal, calls in and asked to really explain what the president was sazing, the African Union has asked for an apology. I think the haitian ambassador to the United States has tried to be as diplomatic as you possibly can be when the president of the United States has said we dont need more haitians in the United States. So i think that we should look at these other diplomats who are trying to act diplomatically and try to keep the relationship going. You know the Fastest Growing as i said earlier in r in africa. Theres just enormous entrepreneurship going on. When president obama started a Young African leaders program, 500 slots, 50,000 young people applied. Theres energy. Theres purpose. And we need that energy. We need that purpose. We need that entrepreneurship. You know the Fastest Growing as i said earlier in r in africa. Theres just enormous entrepreneurship going on. When president obama started a Young African leaders program, 500 slots, 50,000 young people applied. Theres energy. Theres purpose. And we need that energy. We need that purpose. We need that entrepreneurship. Thats always whats fueled the United States. Ambassador to panama resigned today. A career professional. Who just thought this crossed the line for him. Its been a very tough day for u. S. Diplomats and we have not heard secretary tillerson speak out. He gave a speech today that seemed really off script given the events. Lets the New York Times columnist Nick Christof was here last word. China competing for the countries it offers Africa Investments and what the u. S. Has offered in part has been our soft power, our culture, our democracy, our history that people truly admire. And we just took a bludgeon to our soft power in africa and indeed in many other countries around the world. This is to the point that you were making. In africa, when you go to africa, various african countries today you see a lot of chinese presence. Building roads and one case a parliament. People use chinese devices as opposed to iphones in africa. China all about infrastructure in this growing opportunity that is africa. And america has been as nick said Something Else to africa. Then we just insulted all 54 countries at the same time. Absolutely. When you do polling survey around the world its africans who still think highly out United States whereas other were making. In africa, when you go to africa, various african countries today you see a lot of chinese presence. Building roads and one case a parliament. People use chinese devices as opposed to iphones in africa. China all about infrastructure in this growing opportunity that is africa. And america has been as nick said Something Else to africa. Then we just insulted all 54 countries at the same time. Absolutely. When you do polling survey around the world its africans who still think highly out United States whereas other countries have gone way down in their support for america, americans and certainly for the president of the United States. Where only russia and israel two countries with a positive view of the president or have gone up, not down. So yes. We have just turned ourselves upside down and china shouldnt get a free ride. They bring in chinese workers. They dont share their capacity. They dont share their technology. They dont share skills. They do it all of themselves and thats burnt a lot of african economies so we have opportunities here that were not taking. I think the other thing i want to say, ali, i started to say it this morning, is that there was a very famous german protestant pastor during the the time of hitler. At the beginning supported hitler and ended up in a concentration camp for seven they dont share skills. They do it all of themselves and thats burnt a lot of african economies so we have opportunities here that were not taking. I think the other thing i want to say, ali, i started to say it this morning, is that there was a very famous german protestant pastor during the the time of hitler. At the beginning supported hitler and ended up in a concentration camp for seven years. He said of himself that he was antischmidtic to begin with and wrote a famous poem and to quote it in this instance that we are facing now and this is what americas been about, speaking up for people on behalf of peoples rights, that i first they came for the salvadorians and i did not speak because i was not salvadorians and then the haitians and i did not speak out because i was not haitian and then the africans and i did not speak out. I was not african. And then they came for me and there was no one left to speak. Yep. We have got to speak up. Poignant way to end it. Thank you for your analysis today. Later, a last from lawrence on the president and the First Amendment. Next, the wall street journal report about donald trump and adult film star and 130,000 payout. The wall street journal get ready for centrum microworkouts. The bottle curl. The twist n turn. The stretch n grab. The gummy squish. Centrum micronutrients fuel your body from the inside out. Grab a centrum and join in. Repeat daily. The wall street journal reporting tonight that a month before the 2016 election Donald Trumps lawyer arrange add 130,000 payment to a former adult film star to stop her from disclosing an alleged sexual encounter with donald trump. The payment to Stephanie Clifford who performs under the stage name Stormy Daniels was arranged by trump attorney michael cohen. The report says shes privately alleged the sexual encounter with donald trump took place after they met at a july 2006 celebrity Golf Tournament in lake tahoe a year after he married Melania Trump and in interview tonight by the daily beast ally that evans said she spoke with Stephanie Clifford on the night of the alleged encounter, quote, store any calls me four or five times by the last two phone calls shes with donald trump and i can hear him. And hes talking through the phone to me saying, come on, lets have some fun. Lets have some fun. Come to the party. Were waiting for you. And i was like, omg, its donald trump. Men like him scare me because they have so much power and this was way before his president ial nomination. So i bailed on them and turned my phone off. She says spoke again next day and tells me i ended up with donald trump in the hotel room. Picture him chasing me. I was like, oh, i really dont need to hear that and she said he offered keys to the condo in florida and that was the last we ever spoke of it. She confirmed the accuracy of the quotes to us tonight and said she stands by the statements. Daily beast said it was in talks to interview Stephanie Clifford in 2016 and backed out. In Michael Wolffs book steve bannon implies another lawyer helped to get trump out of jams with women in the campaign and quote kasowitz on the campaign, what we have . A hundred women . He took care of all of them. The white house denied a sexual encounter and did not deny the claim the payment was made to clifford and cohen said its signed by Stormy Daniels denying a relationship with trump or got hush money. The Washington Posts ruth marcus will react to this story after this. Ruth marcus writes about donald trump in her editorial in tomorrows the Washington Post. Yes, trumps reference to shithole countries represents a tragic moment in the nations a tiny sword . Bread. Breadstick . A matchstick a lamppost coin slot no . Uhhh. 10 seconds. A stick a Walking Stick eiffel tower, Mount Kilimanjaro ding time sorry, its a tandem bicycle. What . What . as long as sloths are slow, you can count on geico saving folks money. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. If you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis,. Isnt it time to let the real you shine through . Maybe its time for Otezla Apremilast . Otezla is not an injection or a cream. 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Were joined by ruth marcus who i assume wrote this before the Stormy Daniels adult film star debacle was made clear. I think so. I was pretty much done and then looked at the twitter feed. Always a bad idea. Yeah. I mean, i dont know what you do other than put your face into your palm. It is it does have the sense of an administration coming off the rails. They just got crisis after crisis. The sort of which we describe as shooting ones self in the foot. Sure. Theyre all self inflicted crises but different kind of wounds. Right . The reason that i wrote about what had happened earlier in the week is that i really worry that we that trump is going to make us suffer from outrage overload. In other words, what hes doing is so appalling on a daily or sometimes hourly basis that we forget the appalling thing that he did the day before. Right. Or the day before that. And so, im really worried that we are going to just become really numb to these assaults on the rule of law. He attacked court ruling he didnt like this week in a very abnormal way that were going to become numb to these attacks on freedom of speech. He assailed the fbi agent in an interview with the wall street journal as having committed treason. Thats a very serious assertion coming from someone whens told us that he is in complete control of the Justice Department which if there were going to be a prosecution for he attacked court ruling he didnt like this week in a very abnormal way that were going to become numb to these attacks on freedom of speech. He assailed the fbi agent in an interview with the wall street journal as having committed treason. Thats a very serious assertion coming from someone whens told us that he is in complete control of the Justice Department which if there were going to be a prosecution for treason would do it. Yep. So those are really just terrible things that go against from my point of view democratic values. Let me touch on one of them that you write about. This is donald trump talking about libel laws this week we think in relation to negative books or reports about him. We are going to take a strong look at our countrys libel laws. So that when somebody says something that is false and defamatory about someone that person will have meaningful recourse in our courts. Our current libel laws are a sham. And a disgrace and do not represent American Values or american fairness. This is complicated, ruth, because the current libel laws are not a sham and disgrace but stand as something to deal with a very strong First Amendment in this country. This is complicated and not the sort of thing that you want somebody who by the way puts out a lot of false information and then has a thin skin deciding that they want to change how journalists can perform their jobs. Right. I mean, to describe our libel laws as a sham and a disgrace just is just inaccurate. Another one of those illustrations of how he doesnt understand what the freedom of speech and of free press is all about and connecting that up with the notion that you can complain about libel laws not being soft not allowing you to collect damages from people who you to collect damages and then go ahead and calling the fbi agent a traitor . I mean, come on. Ruth marcus, thank you for being here. Thanks, ali. And a special last word from Lawrence Odonnell on the presidency and the First Amendment. We have been here before. If sleep is essential to happiness. Whats essential to sleep . Introducing the leesa thanks, ali. And a special last word from Lawrence Odonnell on the presidency and the First Amendment. We have been here before. If sleep is essential to shawn evans its 6 am. 40 million americans are waking up to a gillette shave. And at our factory in boston, 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. 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The last president to try that was Richard Nixon when he made legal history when he tried to stop publication about government documents about the vietnam war, documents known as the pentagon papers. Thats the story told in Steven Spielbergs new film the post. Its not the full report but its over 4,000 pages of it. Huh. Ares they are these in order . No. Im supposed to retire on friday. How are we supposed to comb through 4,000 pages . Theyre not even organized . We have less than eight hours. For the last six years weve been playing catchup. And thanks for the president of the United States who, by the way, has taken a [ bleep ] on the First Amendment, we got the goods. And we have with us, josh, who won an oscar about spotlight, another film about journalists. And we worked together on west wing. This year working on this script this year, did it feel like you were writing in the present tense . It did a little bit, lawrence. You know, i think the reason that steven and liz and marilyn, tom and kristy thought it was so necessary to tell a story is because the press has been under siege and we figured where Something Like what happened this week would happen again, where the president would history to restrain the press. I think it was justice black who said in the Supreme Court opinion allowing the pentagon papers to be published, he said only a free and unrestrained press can effectively dispose deception in government. And that was when the Supreme Court because of the bold move lawrence. You know, i think the reason that steven and liz and marilyn, tom and kristy thought it was so necessary to tell a story is because the press has been under siege and we figured where Something Like what happened this week would happen again, where the president would history to restrain the press. I think it was justice black who said in the Supreme Court opinion allowing the pentagon papers to be published, he said only a free and unrestrained press can effectively dispose deception in government. And that was when the Supreme Court because of the bold move made by the New York Times and then made by kate leading the company decided to publish the papers and thats when the Supreme Court said, yes, we need to hold our leaders accountable. And this is, as you know, settled law. Youre a Harvard Law School graduate. This we thought was all settled law 47 years ago. What did it feel like this past week when we saw the president of the United States trying to threaten prior restraint on publication . You know, i think the president in a lot of slightly you know, i think that the president in a lot of other ways has been threatening publication, has been threatening, talking about fake news, trying to denigrate the press. You know, i think the president in a lot of slightly you know, i think that the president in a lot of other ways has been threatening publication, has been threatening, talking about fake news, trying to denigrate the press. Creating a general air of intimidation. Correct. And whats been incredible is how the New York Times, the Washington Post and msnbc and other organizations, cnn, have stepped up to really take that challenge on. Hes thrown down a gauntlet and said, you know what, this is what we do, what we need to do is hold the leader accountable. Its not a liberal story, right . Kay graham when shes holding leaders accountable, shes holding j. F. K. And l. B. J. Accountable. Because they all lie and we need to check on this when they do lie and we need to check on them and make sure theyre not deceiving the american public. It was a dramatic Supreme Court decision. There was nothing partisan about that decision at the time and there was no giant partisan objection after the Supreme Court made its ruling. Supreme court made its ruling and pentagon papers went out and thats the end of it. I never learned about the pentagon papers until i was taking larry tribes class at harvard. You know, to me this is a chapter of our history that is very important not only because it establishes the Fourth Estate in the powerful way in which they exist. I was a semialert News Reporter in college and i learned everything i know about the pentagon papers from this movie. All the behindthescenes stuff i did not know. It is a dramatic situation. We are out of time, josh singer. Thank you for coming by again with your latest movie effort. Really appreciate it. And the post premieres nationwide today. That is tonights last word. Please be sure to join me and my colleague Stephanie Ruhle for velshi and ruhle. The 11th hour with Brian Williams starts right now. President s visit to walter reed today for his First Official visit as president. All of it as the 11th hour gets under way on a friday night. Good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. Day 358 of the trump situation and the end of another very rocky week for the president. He arrived at maralago in florida just a few hours ago, hours after his medical exam and still surrounded really by the fallout from the profane and racist quotes attributed to him about the people of africa and haiti. The only public event on todays schedule, the signing of a proclamation to honor reverend dr. Martin luther king jr. Heres how it ended. Racist quotes attributed to him about the people of africa and haiti. The only public event on todays schedule, the signing of a proclamation to honor reverend dr. Martin luther king jr. And here is how that ended. Mr. President , will you give an apology for the statement yesterday . Mr. President , are you a racist . Mr. President , will you respond to these serious questions about your statement, sir . We are talking to the president , not you, sir. Mr. President , are you a racist . Thats about how his day went. And here is how the cover of next weeks norker magazine sums up how the president