Transcripts For SFGTV Building Inspection Commission 31616 20160320

Here again commissioner walker. And i think. Did i call everyone. Commissioner gilman i apologize everyone is present and accounted for we quorum and our in relation item is item 3 general Public Comment im sorry president s announcements. Good morning and welcome to thursday, february 4, 2016, the day before st. Patricks day i want to welcome everyone and wish everyone a st. Patricks and early happy st. Patricks day for you who enjoy enjoy the annual event and thank you. The staff for joining camp mather tang in her district and answer peoples questions about permits programs like legalization and soft story retrofitting and other matter the neighborhood dbi welcomed the opportunity to inform homeowners and tenants and customers about the policy procedures and program and supervisor tang conveyed her appreciation the newsletter they tagged tom chu and others as well as William Strong so thank you special thanks to why who is one of the key managers at dbi Central Permit Bureau who was singled out for appreciation and praise by mr. Vera the consul general of s f museum of art she sent him a letter in providing new addition on tom ma what an official address and wrote in part we have a new level of admiration for the dedication and attention and the efficiency of dbi staff in issuing the address on the same day of the appointment so thank you thanks also to depending upon ed screening with the city college for assisting with their projects motivation so Deputy Director and the management decision who received a letter of appreciation from our customers on the excellent conferring E Customer Service and helpfulness while assisting to complete the records request form take the opportunity to let everyone know that dbi will send auto a out a reminder notification for the stocks and bonds retrofitting Property Owners in tier 2 of the mandatory program 0 ross are the owners of buildings with 15 or more units that have a deadline for permit application by september 15, 2016 six months from now, one and 75 of the 5 hundred 85 or 84 the tier two have respond roughly thirty percent are night owners not acted the communication manager and other dbi staff will soon be launching a Media Campaign in addition to the reminder to make soft Story Building tier 2 Property Owners of the rapidly approaching deadline and at the request of supervisor peskin dbi will join representative from other Department Public works in an april 14th at audit and Oversight Committee to explain the permitting process for this and supervisor peskin called for the hearing the aftermath of the new york city were lowering a large crane the crane fell and crushed a person sitting in his car on the street below and cal osha has the responsibility of investigating should you construction sites in california the supervisor didnt want to hear does want to hear with the local departments do for crane safety when the city continued that to have a robust construction a reminder to the supervisors it is once again time to submit our nomination for dbi quarter one 2016 so, please send those to William Strong at sfgovtv. Org in next week or two so that the employee recognize may convene and select a winner to be announced during the april 6th meeting madam secretary that concludes my remarks. Any Public Comment on the announcements seeing none, item 3 general Public Comment the bic will take Public Comment within the jurisdiction that is not part of agenda. Good morning, commissioners i live on montana street im here because in may 7th i finally wag called if the discretionary review after 9 months waiting im sorry this is. Take your time. So they took the commissioners some discretionary review they took it because they thought if they took the discretionary review was going to be faster than my neighbors on anyo on montana and ms. Chin they did commissioners thought that way it would be faster they roach the portion of the illegal buildings they have retransacted and its been how many months theyve not done anything were getting long ills asthma a bronchitis ive been fighting for 6 years and this is the sixth time goes from Planning Department, to building inspection and none does anything ive met with mr. Laura write and mr. Duffy everyone at the department mr. Putting are was the one in charge of the Planning Department he has closed the case and not told were getting very, very sick and weve been sent to the pulmonary doctor from ucsf because my neighbors mr. Leon on montana massachusetts has taken the light and air from my house it is the way is smells is disgusting you want to run out from there, there is no pictures that i can show you guys this is i dont know if you can see. Here it is. That is the view i have from the bedroom they have enclosed every inch and taken away with an easement i presented every little document i had and none has done nothing they say i make no sense my pictures dont match with what may neighbors are presented so, please i need your help before we die it is criminal what my neighbors are doing and a lot of people here employees and of the Building Department and Planning Department that will happen at this address no one is doing anything please help me. Thank you thank you. Any additional. Commissioners im sonya and im here on behalf of my sisterinlaw and the family and the kids her kids and when are any nephew and necessarys this is how long this has been dragged and the conditions theyre living in no light and air and to see my little nephew i will at all the time and the stress that is come not only physically but mentally and seeing my sisterinlaw with headache and here depression and her family this has changed the entire family we cant really visit them much anymore because the way of the living right now that is just not right that were pleading to you all of you to please look at this matter and give me her some peace you know and not right this is going on for 6 years now this is not correct were living in america and this is a matter of an easement shouldnt be reaping happening in the private house like this thank you. Thank you. Excuse me. Im an architect and retired architect and a friend of ms. Peps on mark 10 i came to the department of building inspection the city of San Francisco for the purposes of this visit so review the plans as per that concludes my report. Incorporated the Planning Commission mandates as a result the discretionary review process dated may 7, 2015 i also wanted to say i have parkinsons and thats the reason he clear my voice if you dont understand me ask me ill try to clarify the most current documents dated july 10, 2015, with a right thing to do message subject to the conditions of the there was a title sheet that stated per planning application this note was signed by adrian there was no indication of restrictions the drawings of changes that understanding of the requirement of the discretionary review to summarize ive observed no drawings that indicated even the slightly recognize of the corrective and a. D. Clinic doctrine snatch was incorrect and misleading and such as delays for the project considering the project was issued in permit 6 years ago mr. Peps was filed on december 10th that was one week after it started the project construction other additional complaint were not given a response be until one hundred days later because of the failure of the Building Department to act in a timely manner two questions when will someone accept the responsibility for the injustice for an unbelievable 6 years and two when mr. They recognize that mr. Peps has Health Problems that didnt exist before the process began we have a been very patient and the city has let the peps household down for a serious amount of time 6 years is much too long for anything to go on and the Planning Commission spoke directly to that. Thank you, thank you. Youre welcome. Hello good morning. My name is a kathy i work with senior disabilities with the coalition in San Francisco im here today, i met isabel there ace the alliance of californians for community combrfrment came to us three years ago with that outrage situation ive been in here home several times you know which case no. I dont have to give you the number today no so this neighbor has built right into her property it is unbelievable and weve done everything to try to get the attention of the city the city in fact had a discretionary review on may 8th and the city said additionally the as built rear staircase will be demolished and replaced with a new establish setback 7 feet if the western Property Line thats not happened inform permit for dog this has made this family families life terribly disturbed and her galvanized is sick the smell the house is retained someone home the greed and selfishness of the person next door someone the Planning Department is giving this guy a green light we dont know why this is corruption on a minor scale i dont know what happens with the really bigwigs i think he is a smalltime operator we want this thing down if not were going to the examiner and the media and raise holy hell i mean it im sick of it. Any additional Public Comment . Okay. Seeing none were on to item 4 scott presentation and the overview for the single room occupancy the residential demolition and Hotel Ordinance commissioner president mccarthy and members of the commission rosemary chief Housing Inspector chapter four 1 of the administrative code has been in that code since approximately 19812 started as a moratorium in 1979 and then was adopted or approved by the board in june of 19 ti been with us a long period of time it is not to be confused with chapter four 1 a of the administrative code which deals with shortterm rentals now that particular ordinance is only seeking to provide protection for single guest rooms the 1980s i want to thank lilly our communication director shes assist me lemon tell you what is a is in the packet we have the power point presentation and included a flow chart of the permit process that is provided by chapter four 1 of the administrative code and then what we did this was a suggestion of lillys i think was excellent we have another come of the flow chart if you want to take that off the back of our page and look at that i think that will make more sense as we go through the process so let me also talk about how this describes the agenda talks about single room occupancy or sro units not a term in chapter four 1 everyone understand were talking about Residential Hotels the sros that is a term the planning code and not in chapter 41 calls the units residential unit theyre really certified guest rooms how did that happen when you look at the slide were talking about the origin it explains to you the origin and the purpose hospital those rooms are designated if a person uses a guest room for at least 3 two days and or september 23, 1979, and provided the San Francisco Ethics Commission with information to that stent though the annual report without any kind of appeals that was designated they got if you look at today, the list of Residential Hotels that fall under the administrative code youll see that the majority of hotels have the combination of residential and tourist rooms the tourist rooms that are certify under the observance those rooms were opted out for less than 3 two days continuous with september 23, 1979, and this Property Owner or perimeter operator didnt condition test that many moves to 2016 ive been associated with the ordinance since 1995 its been about 26 years and there was a procedure within the ordinance that talks about if you want to remove or want to change the use as a certified remain guest option a residential unit you have to file a permit to confer that permit has nothing to do with with the Building Permit process a separate process depending on the option for replacement of the room Building Permits maybe required to implement that use theyre a separate processes and i did share some of the hearing from last month and there was some comment by one of the commissioners they thought this was really a plan it was the responsibility of then director of the Bureau Inspection and the director of department of building inspection to do the final approval now depending on the method you choose for replacement the certain city agencies will be involved and certain information required gone through the origin and the purpose in 1979 brought to your attention to the board of supervisors at that time that residential guest rooms were created or during or afterward were used inform elderly and disabled were converted and down the road and this is a crucial amount of residential unit for in target population so the more turn went into effect when we talk about the guest woom room were talking about something other than a dwelling unit this will typically have its own bathroom and kitchen not part of protection under this origin only dealing with guest rooms certified and some that have private bathrooms and kitchens but they were approved with the amenities so that is what the protected the dwelling unit is not tourist and those are not as well the next slide the workload ive mentioned when someone files a permit to convert their selected one of the options there is about 5 options they can choose they select one or a combination of methods to replace those reciprocal guest rooms depending on what they choose certain agencies will be notified before you get to that i know that the City Attorney talked about that a certain determination is made by dbi the completeness of the file so, now lets go to the next slide so on this particular slide we have and one of the things we did we give you the exact ordinance so youll have that a reference excuse me so subsection ac and d youll see subdivision in a moment west portal talks about the owner to convert those rooms or dont worry about those rooms they have to file a permit to convert this talks about that the next subsection y can he check for completeness and once we send it to the city agencies the first absolutely is the Planning Department because they have to tell us whether this application is permitted by the planning code. Now the next slide subsection b in the application notice it didnt say you need proof this is consistent that is permit by planning thats what we do when we get a completed application goes to planning and every case someone has though the chosen a fee it is usually a two stage approval that is a condition of approval from planning and the project usually gets changed every single one of those projects usually required a conditional use hearing before the Planning Commission and an appeal by an Interested Party once they get transmittal and they have one 50 days to appeal to the Planning Commission for the purposes of soliciting whether it is the appropriate application or conflict of units let me say the ordinance repaitd dates this commission by 14 years built within the language the Planning Department and other city agrees look at the compactor and when it comes back to dbi to look at that as well so where are some of the agencies we triumph transmit we transmit to the Mayors Office of housing, if they choose a certain method that requires in lui fees we transfer to the division of real estate they center to work out the formula and a combination of that that is what happens so the slide has the replacement method and this is slide 7 and slide 8 so in this instance we have the cause to construct United States units we will have this typically the past used to cite the units in an existing building once you construct the building it is used the past for a situation where youre taking a number of rienl guest rooms and taking them out of one or more building and it says that buildings with the provision eligible for the replacement unit cant be a building previously under the ordinance that means if it as one or more in the past 70 applications have chosen a combination of in lui fees or building new units or citing unit in an existing building with Building Permits, etc. Within transfer into a Residential Hotel Housing Units so in looking at section or slide 7 as you can see item number a4 and slide 8, a 5 those are the types of methods chosen that will require that type of financial formula i know there was some talk about this at the last meeting thats where that comes into play and question by one of the members has to say a building comes in and wanted to convert to the residential guests rooms to toughest one of those previous works they did all in lui fees with the amount is based on a filing fee to us the project proponent pays and filing fee to the division of releasing e real estate and looking at the underlying formula in 4 and 5 and then hire two independent awe aprils and they submit speedometer the letter to the Property Owner and it will be 1. 5 or 1 the 7 million at least that much and the project proponent has to counter that check within so many days otherwise grounds for denial of the application when someone files we look at this for thoroughness to make sure the items on the file number in file number 6 are coming filed and something missing we ask for that if in the in a this way denial grounds and if you look at the flow charts the process so there is some thought conveyed with respect to that. A person can weigh the file with dbi and go through the process with planning to get the conditional use when in their not choosing and going to Housing Units or new Construction Since ive dealt with that for the last 20 years most of the projects change a number of the unit which was as you go got process they can file we see a complete application and transmit to to 9 agencies ive mentioned depending on the method chosen and wait to see what is happening with the planning they approve the conditional use application which will be when our looking at 7 and 8 it will be one, 23 and 3 essentially methods so well get back to planning the conditions of motion for the conditional use application and a set of conditions then we look at the conditions and add our conditions to those make sure there is a sunshine provision within the two or three years depending on the options and from the director wishes to approve the application get an approval say you have to convert our building to housing replacement units and get our Building Permits if over and over those are required and make sure you have the Building Conditions met and get the certificate of final completion and occupancy for the final approval and a new certificate of use and protected under that ordinance that is essentially the process but as i say i can file with us and make sure you have to a complete package or not file with us and go through the process with planning and come back to us now we have all encouraged the Property Owners to file from the case is held in abeyance whether or not their permitted by the Planning Department pr and the planning code that is as you can see we have it in our cells in front of you a fshlt before our director can approve heres a couple of reasons in a lot cases we have rooms occupied by occupants and part of progress to us what is the relocation and who are the people and where are they won of the things from the slides it tells you the first one we do we send it out for the City Attorney reviews and the interested parties review that when we have a complete application and want that because weve seen that the past the interested parties go to the individuals and tell them about their Voting Rights and represent the individuals it is better than saying dont come to us fill youre finished with Pricilla Chan thats helps us the other thing the past people will go to go the planning process and come back and say guess what were sorry your building as a replacement is not eligible under the ordinance because it had residential guest rooms we want them to have the dialogue with discussion back and forth about Financial Information but i think has to do with if someone picks item one, if you look at cell 7 lets talk hypothetically it talks about construction typically when weve seen this the past one of the applicants in this process has to own the building that have house the replacement units and a nexus for us were going to condition it building but youve not got the final approval if we decide to approve until that believe is built or converted through a certificate of occupancy and has the guests rooms or dwell units now it is rehavent had a situation at least in the 20 some odd years ive been involved someone has used this item a1 to address the conservation with the replacement from guest rooms to dwelling units without those restrictions that are provided in subsection c they can apply and weve got a long way to go well look at that to see what the application looks like and whether or not we need Additional Information because a dialogue when were looking at the applications commissioner walker. Through the chair. The conversion from a guest room to a dwelling unit is that the addition of plumbing and what is im take the opportunity that specific thing guest rooms to dwell not tourist but guest to dwell. If someone choose that opposite. Whats the. The definition definition of dwelling unit and dwelling unit has a kitchen and bathroom a guest room typically doesnt, however, there are with both but if someone comes in and saying says well replace the existing guests with studios or a typical studio or Something Like that well look at the to see see comparability the other thing from the department of building inspection is if we go from guests rooms to dwelling unit are repricing out the elderly and disabled thats why we have those particular methods here so were going to look at that type thing thats the target outside that audience it the owners is to protect. So again to follow up on that if someone came in forensic with a permit to add plumbing to a sro room would that trigger a change into guest room to dwelling unit. It depends on if they wanted to do that to the entire building well look to see what in their proposing if they have hypothetically 50 residential guests rooms no tourists and they had the room to add kitchen nets and bathrooms we will look at not necessarily require a permit to convert depending on what was happening one of the things well look at is are the rooms becoming smaller where is that space coming from are rooms being deleted to do that there is a provision and the definition of conservation under chapter four 1 it talks about sometimes the residential guests rooms up to the discretion of the director can be deleted for the purpose of creating an amenity for the inclusive use of the tenants and not for tourists tourists use so when someone want to say dbi we want to delete a couple of rooms to create a lounge or Community Kitchen well look at it and the tourists rooms first and look at whether or not that amenity truly can be used conflicting for the use of residential occupants if it didnt it if z fall with that conversion we a long time those cases and look at the floor plan and the exist uses and whether or not the rooms that are housing the residential guests rooms will be impacted now we should talk about the number of rooms in chapter four 1 part of story thought as commissioner walker thats this is a we have a Residential Hotel with 50 rooms certified and protected under the ordinance and 50 guests rooms as i said a lot of buildings have a combination if someone wants to reduce the number of rooms well ask them do that to the tourist rooms first do the residential guests rooms have to stay in that exact location and the answer no. You, move them around if you a unit is a tourist room and want to make pa residential room you may do so if you maintain and protect the residential guests rooms, however, it if you make that change under the report you did it on annual basis or get that in writing by the next business day you cant violate the ordinance in terms of if you have a room it is bigger and force them out to a smaller room thats a violation of the ordinance make sure that it you move people out to make that change you do so lawfully this is what we explained to the Hotel Operator you can move those rooms around but if opted out by someone protected you have to do so lawfully does that answer your question. If you do convert a guest room covered under the ordinance into a dwelling unit is it still covered under the ordinance. Yes. It is that believe houses residential unit and if that is an existing building and that particular building is then converted say it is a Tourist Hotel and they want to now be the residents of all or the part of guests rooms one of the things that building will have to do over 20 units or more spiritual it under the provision under the fire code one example of something theyll have to do that believe will now fall there that ordnance and we will condition it as such if a newer building to cap the amenities required by the Building Code and the fire code and those are supersede what is in the housing code. Commissioner melgar has a question and i wonder if you can clarify whether under chapter 41 any mention of the income of the occupants so and whether conversion the distinction of definition of a conversion is the same but the population changes so in a sense where a building is sold and the new owner did no longer want to rent to the existing tenants but much higher than income tenants but not change the occupancy whether any of this applies. Thats a great question commissioner melgar and i have a lot of this commit to memory i cant point out the exact section it talks about what that rent was on or before the time of the applications filed so the language is not that strong. I remember the giving up a. M. This was the housing of last resort or something by payment fees or anything but the actual occupancy as weve defined it as the building changed. It requires a relocation fee it is as you can see in some of the information. Pardon me. Yes. It is not that much. Generally what happens in those situations is interested parties thats why it is important they get this at the beginning work with the tenants that are there to get lifetime leases or first right of refusal from the building is built we want that relocation but heres the answer to your question what if most of the units were vacant prior to the filing of the permit application so, now we have we dont have a lot of information except the annual report an average not the actual Business Records as to what that was and as we know with this market the amount that someone is charging for a residential guest room is up exponential so while in here not like 9 language that is the rent or a completely different thing keep in mind that chapter 41 didnt establish the rents but only for profit owner to give us a snapshot once a year on or about november 1st but i completely agree this is a an issue with the way the ordinance is written. So to proceed we then transmit this to the Planning Department and the slide so and then we wait for it to cock it theyve chosen one of the options 1, 2, 3 what happens is that we also look at this application to see whether or not something is happened that will trigger a mandatory denial in our package which is the second to the last item that is cell 13 we included the inspection check list and the apparent violations now the reason weve included that as a reference to give you a quick summary and list this is the second to the last item on the power point presentation of those types of ways the ordinance is weighed so if we see Something Like that that could trigger would be the items cell number 9 of subsection c the applicant has commit on unlawful action with the initial permit to convert so in that situation if we see someone has done something unlawful we can go in and deny that permit has to be something that wasnt an error in bookkeeping they converted to keep 9 records we go in and do inspections to look at the books if we see we dont have all the information we had an audit and issue the notice of violations and we can solicit the help of the City Attorney because the records that are required to be kept a daily log cooperated receipts and the filing of annual usage report so when we you know look at those records well not say are you the person on in the annual report are you the person the daily log to get a sense if anyone of the situation you can spend a lot of time get a clear picture how the building is eyed this is what the afforded to do those inspectors this is marketrate denial other positions that are there if they dont comply with the provisions as i said if they dont give us a check within a timeframe prohibited and didnt provide a one by one or ultimately provide us with information which question get directly the Planning Department showing their application is permitted by planning so with that, the other thing to note when we send out a complete application any Interested Party has 15 days from the notice on the building to file an appeal with the Planning Department we have that exact language for you that is in your package that is if you want to refer to that that is cell number 5 any Interested Party any submit a written request win 15 days of the notice pursuant to the city and Planning Commission for a public hearing on a proposed for Public Opinion to convert or dont worry about residential units and to determine replacement units are compatible. Now it comes back to our director for final approval and within that respect i will tell you where we have a complicated application when we have cases to solicit input from the stakeholder and public hearing we were told by deputy City Attorney it you dont have a direct position within this process but you can definitely give input for people attending the hearing to the director for a final approval or denial lets talk about the approval or denial if youre director disapproves a permit it is a appealed to the board of appeals if someone wishes to appeal a conditional use or approval or a discretionary review for the Planning Commission it is goes to the board of supervisors its my understanding and im remiss lets say we have deputy City Attorney rob chaplain and from the board of supervisors for a discretionary review and the appeal; is that correct. It is that appeal able to the board of supervisors and discretionary review to the board of appeals. Somebody wishes to appeal the thank you. The conditional use theyll go to the aboard or discretionary review goes to the board of appeals is that appeal body of where this was going from there with that, if you director paragraphs this and choose the option then as i said it is a double step process we add the motion and the conditions of approval by the planning we put a cover letter and say there is confessor the conditions approval pending the conditions preceding the day theyve placed on it and the ultimate is getting Building Permits to make sure that the buildings are house o replacements including the certificate of occupancy and at that point we come back with initial approval theyll get the final approval with all the conditions met and vet the process we seek guidance from the Planning Departments for them to tell us if their conditions precede that so with that, i think ive glutton the whole work if you have any questions ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. This was helpful he had a couple of questions and a dated example use the example i thought you said the palace hotel with the conversion i guess my concern from our conversation at last months is that the in lui fee are being calculated on a formula with with all due respect with all the multiple units my concern is were having people pay and i an in lui fee not compatible for the replacement of the units. Let me tell you about the ball park that ended with cpmc we started this process 20 some years ago and about thirty thousand units and 55 thousand a unit whistle blower we finished with cpmc that was over one and 50 thousand per unit it goes up because what happens two dependent awe appraisals come back with on amount so dbi has to put that into a special account the Mayors Office of housing we cant touch it they use it more Affordable Housing maybe commissioners at some point the ordnance needs to be amend but ill tell you at one and 50 thousand a unit for a guest room it didnt have maybe has a sink you know the issue is whether or not you feel that was compatible or not the adequate amount of money the dbi didnt touch that as far as the Construction Cost has nothing to do with with the formula with the deliberation and premeditation, however, if it came back and felt that was not adequate well ask that question of them and anything beyond that will require a chapter 41 has not been all the time in a number of years this is something that the board can look at but i understand your concern and again, it only applies to those particular issues, however, let me say if there is an instance someone want to go from guests to rooms to dwelling units the Property Owner that house has to be part of application i know this is a discussion whether or not to be a Financial Information and that concept is the case of a First Impression my understanding this has not happened in almost 20 or thirty years look at it and see if we need more information unless their choosing subsection the last two subsection typically, were looking what is build out they dont get their permit a question comes up entertain this question before the hearing that is how do you protect protecting elderly and disabled if those units are marketrate were seeing that happen with the remain hotel unfortunately, that ordinance if speak to that only rent control only under the rentcontrolled unit this is something that came up with the task force were actually looking to change the make up with the task force to change the make up to address this quite frankly we need to look at this and chapter 41 until that happens this is before you. Commissioner walker. This issue the value of one thousand dont nothing we need to encourage the board of supervisors modify this im interested that would be helpful to go through the process but it is clear we have to update it. So if i could thank you. Commissioner president mccarthy. The commission may ask why hadnt this happened we need to understand that the city and county of San Francisco invested a number of years protecting this ordinance a lot of litigation and went to the United States Supreme Court and the california Supreme Court ones protecting it while it was undergoing that amount of litigation changes were made today, we need to look at this ordinance and see whether this should be additional changes to it i have my wish list im sure you have yours. Commissioner gilman. I guess to the City Attorney if we want i guess any skew question is technically how to amend chapter 41 is that by the board of supervisors or this commission. John from the City Attorneys office. The building inspection couldnt independently make the changes under the charter the Building Inspection Commission has tort to hold hearing on any amendments to the building inspection the housing code or plumbing code any issues that dbi deals with in this case if there were changes to the administrative code this is where that particular law exists theres not a specific requirement that item will come before the Building Inspection Commission although im assume that the legislative sponsor will want to get the input from the building inspection is effects the department but the way that that law needs to be amended it would be legislation will be sponsored by a member of the board of supervisors or is mayor, the department can act as a sponsor for the legislation as well it is a little bit slower process but department do have the ability to propose Lottas Fountain earthquake changes. Does that answer your question. Im sorry if you could departments are the right to introduce the legislative changes thats not us. So we could influence or work with the department as commissioners to draft that . I understand technically this body cant but couldnt we direct the director im making this up to work with staff to do that and have the departments theoretically john from the City Attorneys office theoretical yes. I could a couple of ways to do it could form a subcommittee that could call the Hotel Conversion ordinance by the and usually your committees are 3 members that go up could meet they be Public Meetings and come up with proposals for how you would want to change at Hotel Conversion ordinance the full bic could hold harleys on that and come up with consensus position eaten ask the Department Department to address the particular amendments that the commission or a subcommittee wanted to do you also can individually work with the Mayors Office or a board member to come up with your own ideas on how you would want to be amended. Sorrows mar ill close thank you first of all, for the presentation it is a lot more detailed than i first overwhelming thought i see a lot of mechanisms in here that gets you to what you get i he was interested in you know coming in and applying for the application the smart person will go and apply for the full application the particular cases i dont want to get into that but thats not the case they went to planning. They filed with us and amended that were looking at the new applications. So ive gotten that. They can go to mr. Brown kind of put my street hat an here i understand why people miter be doing this seeing the financial possibilities that are attached it seems to me that the current avenue youre working off is like the highest number is one and 60 thousand or something; is that correct as far as the salutation. When one and 50 thousand from the last application. Kwha which was how long ago. 24 months. What the department of education do a determination of the awe aprils. For 16 units. That even worries me i question the mechanisms in mass to apprised that that didnt sound right based on the Building Developer and knowing the Construction Costs and knowing what the in lui fees with didnt sound right that 24 months. We presently do have applications that selected that application and to see if that is amended. Thats where we should start the other part of situation would it about be opposed to actually doing one a make up one we can see for study purposes. And lets find out what the mechanisms are in place. Well solicit the information from the department of real estate and definitely take some hypothetical situation to see what that will give us and get input from yourselves and others with the Development Experience thats how i see as far as some kind of support from staff or a working group. Good data for the Mayors Office and supervisor jane kim and supervisor peskin new housing measures and a lot of data will be coming out of that talk to apples to apples on the Construction Costs with you know one hundred or be a lot more i think even if i were someone trying to do that if i had the information you know it is relevant might change the outcome and approach thou how they go after that if you can do it it as great mechanism. The will that and the people are looking at im getting a lot of calls from people that are concerned about this type of housing. We had those discussions with people that come in whether or not depending on the method and a lot of cases it didnt because one of the last amendments to the ordinance so increase that cost so for a long period of time we got permits in and very few in lui fees its not adjusted to the current economic so very definitely needs to be looked again. Commissioner walker. Again, this is so helpful this whole configuration and this is only agendized for a staff presentation maybe when we get to determining the agenda for the next hearing lets agendize this for the working group and do a working group and a hearing after the process. I have a question. Yes. How many square feet to the whole rooms. They were studios very small i cant remember i submitted a new application ill have to look at that and be careful that was not the agenda i cant get out there but at least one of the new ones were looking at going from guest rooms a to a selfcontained unit we like those but make sure we have those other issues in place too. Out of 16 units your refer to each have a bathroom and something that a project proponent they have a couple of omission from guest room to guest room or go from goicht room and build into something they can add and well look at the project how many units, how many buildings where they are and what their public trust on the application as far as construct them are b be in an existing building and do get if so it the type of option where tare going into an existing building we also get thats where the malice and the planning has a lot of expertise those are not the in lui situations so theyll look at the size and look at the location well do that two but theyve put conditions of approval by the time we get that. I want to bring this to a close but last comments. Commissioner gilman. Most of voefr rooms are 20013 plus square feet thats what youre question was im sorry for option number one on slide 67 cause of construction of a possible unit when they submit that information not talking about the present application before i do they have to attach directing amounts. Not depends on how theyre doing that from guest room to guest room thats pretty straightforward if their do you go Something Else we have to look at the application to get more information. I want to flag that we might want to look at every option for conversion how theyll fund it is a gap right now. Thank you very much. Its very helpful. Thank you commissioner president mccarthy for interrupting it is a complicate ordinance i was going to lose any train of thought. Thank you, rose mary thats a lot of information appreciate it. Public comment on this item. Okay. Next item. Im a Program Manager the collaborate over the last few years weve seen sros renting from one 4 hundred to 2,000 for a small room and the section 41 point it at the housing code thats the part that says the purpose to protect and important Housing Stock for pope people with disabilities seniors and vulnerable populations and that is not the reality weve seen right now we work with dbi and you know rosemary has explained this is something that needs to go through the rent board im glad were trying to get the rent board on the task force when it comes to the Tourist Hotels there is some things about the conversion limitations only replacement if an sro has 100 percent residential some hotels are 100 percent residential others have variety depending upon what unit was issued at the time of the ordinance it is hard to keep track if landlord are general written about renting those they can hell manipulate their numbers and ordinance them in a way to do like i have gone with inspectors to check in some hotels and some of the logs can they they didnt have the receipts and it is pushed forward with the City Attorney you can only catch the dump wantonness sloppy the ones that are good idea on basic cooking their books is hard to capture them we have to figure a system for logging that information and giving that information to dbi to make sure the residential unit are not rented for tourists weve seen an increase in hotels trying to rent for tourists rather than residential and another thing she mentioned about the at some point so you dont get a clear understanding of how many united are being tourist or residential in addition bans the landlords good faith theyre trying to rent for residential but we have landlord that advisement on airbnb and line up on the screen side of the room owe booking. Org if you go online youll find hotels that are mixed use purpose and not using their rooms as well as for example, the 1906 the mary bell hotel is rented for tourists purpose and also the 7 days in other words, to be considered residential and not tourist in 7 days we have a lot of hotel owners that rent for 7 days if theyre coming from San Francisco out of country youll stay for long we need to figure percentage 7 days information thank you. Thank you. Hi tom mecca it the Human Rights Committee i want to agree with ever that was just said weve certainly seen the same thing were hearing complaint in people in sros when a room become havent the landlords is remodeling and making it fancy and refrntd for a lot more money were seeing this happening we know that as physical situation those are rentcontrolled unit so no vacant control so the landlords has a right to rerent that and a right to remodel the question of permits im not sure about but we are definitely seeing a huge problem right now and in an addition to the fact that the sros are the places where people can find housing dating people from sros theyre adding to people that are adding to People Living on the streets of sros are a way that Homeless People get off the streets if only two weeks a month they canned afford more but still the sros have been are Housing Stock where people can avoids homelessness even if for a couple of we can see a month so it is adding to our homeless problem in San Francisco i dont know if we can how we deal with that but it is certainly there is a task force and to commissioner melgars comment cabin income levels of people that live the sros any way to keep those places for poor people of certain income levels im not sure how we do that but that on a the to be looked at and dbi has the ability to do any of that the reality we need to keep those buildings as places for poor people that is the only stock we have for people of this protect level and finally ill throw out there something i want to see the purchase of sros and turning the sros into permanent Affordable Housing and maybe land trusting them or something some way the city can guarantee sweet spot future that those buildings will be available for the people that need them the most this is a fantasy but great ideas come out of infancies thanfantasies than thank you, john with reuben, junius rose on behalf of the applicant for the thats been discussed in front of the commission i first make the point we have serious concerns the brown act and the sunshine act and it was the commission directed the director to take action with no mention the agenda and with no director notice to us as well i need to put that on the record with that said, were happy to be here to discuss and clarify some of the issues that the commissioner has been discussing first. City attorney if i could ask you this is an informational item from the department and we are not talking about any particular project now are we. Thats correct. Based on our opening comments you know, i think i need to point out you seem to be weve not mentioned the name and address of the project but not here to discuss in general terms would be more appreciated rather than your specific. Respectfully commissioner president mccarthy im not here to debate the notice but put that on the record there was a direct action taken last time directing the director with a continuous for the project our project was discussed by commissioners as well as members of the public so im here to provide information to this commission and ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. I really am here to clarify. Im not trying to be connotational. John im not sure. I know we were go to have a general examination about 41 now we tend to be talking about specific projects and getting information about a project that is not on the agenda at this point. Will you have the ability as the chair in the member of the public is sort of speaking over the topic of the agendize item y request they are keep to their 3 minute time and focus on the agendas item ranch some particular project although again, this individual has a client that has a permit to convert starting the process so it is topicly can be related to the agenda item. Im fine with that but you know the question i want to make sure in particular to his power point in other words, to the bruno heights and the sunshine we are not violating anything if he should discuss fully about this project even though it is not calendar. As a member of the public he can talk about the permit to convert and if a particular project that is the speaker has in mind to touch upon that i think what the speaker was raising was not about this hearing per say but about last months hearing. Ill start your treatment. Thank you, president im not making that there the notice but i want to put that out there and wanted to provide and clarify what was discussed last so liam give you a quick overview the project that is out there with a permit to convert with the department the Planning Commission approved the 200 and 31 Group Housing project on turk and leavenworth last summer those are guests rooms under the Building Code and housing under the planning code the permit to convert is dealing with guest rooms to guest rooms not dwelling units as i said theyve filed the application to transfer 200 and 25 Residential Hotel from 6 hotels in the general square feet to the buildings at turk and las vegas worth and moving the Residential Hotel rooms into those two pblgz are the 6 hotels will operate as 100 percent Tourist Hotels with the expectation of one room that has a permanent recipient that will live there with a lifetime lease and constructing new units for Residential Hotel rooms is one option in compliance under the hotel no in lui fee that applies here only the replacement of the old unit i want to make dealer on a permanent residents are challenged all the rooms are vacant right now they were the planning code and the think Residential Hotel residence you cant rent them knittedly but 7 days at a time their weekly rental for the vast majority coming out of town again both permitted by the planning code and the residential Hotel Ordinance the dbi discretion to disapprove is striking by the residential Hotel Ordinance it can be denied if not complete or comparable units are not provided and in lui of the situation or an unlawful action prior to the application so what happens is that when our applications get filed the Planning Commission gets notice and then the office send out sro invitations to any permanent residents they have the opportunity to request the Planning Commission hold a hearing on outlets comparability issue as to whether or not the rooms property for the restrictions are comparable this is generally the connection between the similar type of Housing Stock so weve got a positive project proposal and 12 percent bmr of the New Buildings that is close to thirty percent rent restricted unit we look forward to having the opportunity to provide that in more detail when the mom arrives thank you, commissioners. Any hello, im the families coordinators with this sro corroborative thank you for the comments for those who are conscious and raising issues regarding Affordable Housing and families for folks in the community and also one of the comments i want to do make for the working session we make sure that we have advocates but tenant represented in this for them to speak and have that space assessable in terms of language barriers and sgablts languages in terms of those conversations that is important to you, you us to make sure the tenants are represented the Decision Making cigarettes and make sure that sros rooms are affordable for folks the community and we want to make sure with we advocate for sro choices to keep in mind that the city looks at exploring Affordable Housing purchasing of sro properties more Affordable Housing for protecting families and tenants the communities thank you. Thank you your comments. I see no more Public Comment is closed. Okay. Were on to item 5. Just before we go on to item 5 im glad that council is here on this i want to reinsure that the commissioners when the presentation happened we didnt understand the full 41 you know after the presentation this morning convinced that are strong mechanisms to keep this a fair process allowed by chapter 41 and i on the big concern was evaluation and so one on with other things i am retrecht i was trying to get educated to a process that was bringing this to our attention and due process to all parties it is important to recognize that so i have no more comments if there is any more close. On to item 5 the dbi staff update on the 22 fire from late january 2015. Good afternoon, commissioners dan Deputy Director dbi. Good morning or good afternoon. Today im here to provide you with the chronology of the fire that occurred on mission on 22 street since january 2015 seconds on the chronology dbi staff issued notice of violations to the owner of the damaged front compel them to take steps and make the railways we attempted to get in touch with the owner but not successful we sent the Code Enforcement and the property in order of abatement the Property Owner filed a Police Station for the repairs for the fire damage rooftop, however, this permit was not issued the owner failed to respond to the staff because the owner continued to fail to do the order of abatement the City Attorney sent a letter to the owner was able to schedule an onsite inspection it was then that dbi staff with the representatives and contractors observed the conditions the property dbi observed there were several water damage caused by the fire hydrant to control the fire the fire destroyed large portions of the roof bans the lack of structure for the attachment an updated second engineers report was turned in dbi in early february it stated that the building has populated a safety public hazard the engineer agreed with the assessment thus on emergency letter was posted for a partial demolition of the property to address the Public Safety hazard since the emergency order dbi staff happens been in touch with the dbi contract and the Structural Engineer to make sure that the partial demolition occurs to insure Public Safety is protected and work occurs to expedient immediately after the fire in 2015 the property was boarded up and the Property Owner is responsible for keeping people out of the property as for the fire that occurred the past weekend two notice of violations have been issued by dbi one to the fire damaged property and to the other property on 22 street while the Fire Department investigation for the cause of fire is underway the Fire Department started it suspected homeless transient broke into the building in terms of cooking which may have resulted the 3 alarm fire the owner contractors with taking steps to secure the building with inference boarding the doors and taking down the fire escape today commissioners we spoke to the contractors yesterday they startled yesterday by rebuilding they have to do asbestos and handwork it is supervised by the Structural Engineer okay sorry thank you. Any indication of what the the owner what is the process for replying the building i mean is there a process that he is going through to rebuild or do we know what is happening. We dont know at this point all we know we issued the emergency and were taking portions of the building to the base level and the ground floor is concrete were removing the wood portions of the building. Is there as an informational informational question a time limit when something burns down it as loss of housing the people that were displaced were not we went through the Code Enforcement process fires the past is where been did the after a fire with the insurance burning up the property 4th district at large the conditions to start to rape because the homeowner or the Property Owner i know is slow on that theyre fighting with the Insurance Companies in the past we try to keep in touch with the owner and start the process the past there was like a fire treatment where the prophet was not that severely damaged but it took a year we get calibrated the fires no perfect repair due to asbestos or Hazardous Materials we went through the Code Enforcement process the case was opened in january 15th for the case was opened and then the first nov was the amended nova was sent february 2nd and amended the issue by inspector karen and then the second nov on march 2 we have to follow the Code Enforcement process we were not first getting in touch with the owner and he stopped responding to us we spent district inspectors but the property was boarded up i mean this recent claim where the transient are the building not necessarily they went through a sidewalk and opened on a door on the sidewalk and it was since then this kind of welted that shut it is toward harvard to go in and assess the building when it is boarded up we got inclines from the owner of this project we referred to the Code Enforcement process scheduled director hearings and order of abatement and we get a demand letter and then got access but have to follow the Code Enforcement process. Im aware i think were limited when someone that intentionally wants to demolish Housing Units they have to glow a process and usually present a replacement plan and in the case of a fire were limited to not have a whole lost influence over the timeline. We discussed this with a Fire Task Force recently rosemary was the host and then the propositions we have a contingency plan from the owner and get back to the begin entry into the building with a incarcerating maybe she can speak briefly this was brought up the Fire Safety Task force. Thank you. Thank you Deputy Director im pleased to report within the 3 to 6 months with the Code Advisory Committee youll be looking at legislation that is coming out of Fire Safety Task force and supervisor avalos is going to be sponsorship and one of the things we looked at i know that da and myself and pat looking at this when you have a fire damaged building and realize it is difficult for the pertaining to deal with insurance and fight with the Insurance Company should i say that everything else. About it is a difficult time but people are displaced how do we go about trying to help to encourage the pertaining to give us information not to chase after who is the Structural Engineer and notified people the Building People the building need to know what is the Property Owner generic plan initial we know that the insurance a. D. Gestures go out there it was supervisor kim asked about this we drafted some language we the department are proactive with them and the directors support that when a notice of violation is written with the language you the Property Owner has to give us an ax plan with so many days whos the Structural Engineer and the people that were displaced and have to give them information as to what part of building was damaged so theyll know to make the decisions and after youve looked at this building for thirty days maybe thirty to a 60 type of building excuse me an action plan to lets us you know what the plan for the building are you going to demolish it or partially and how long for you get our insurance money toe people have a sense of get back and how long will they be out to notice in this post the building and it will be part of that notice of violation so we can leverage that, yes it could act period of time so gives information youre in tahoe that was a recent example of another building that brpd it was a serious situation the Property Owner was out of town so within that period of time they have to give us information were looking at that and other legislation we are looking at as well that supervisor avalos has taken the leadership on supervisor tang also had a portion and i imagine introduced and youll get it to have input and those of you who are developers and large landowners and things like that this might not work this will since we given it to the supervisors theyve made changes but we really dont want to have to chase after the information the Property Owners to give us information so we know who is involved so we can get in and get assess to the property and those adapted have some information right now there is nothing so thats one of the items. Great. The past a lot of times after a fire it is important to get the information and the owners information when we do profiles it the, llc theyre out of the country we have issues to get ahold of the owner that is a great solution the future. Great. Illness commissioner melgar director please. So answer commissioner walkersllness commissioner melg director please. So answer commissioner walkersness commissioner melgar director please. So answer commissioner walkeness commissioner melgar director please. So answer commissioner walkeess commissioner melgar director please. So answer commissioner walkess commissioner melgar director please. So answer commissioner walke commissioner melgar director please. So answer commissioner walke commissioner melgar director please. So answer commissioner walkerscommissioner melgar director please. So answer commissioner walkers question this may be successful on the ocean avenue west portal and mission bay fire this job or other fires damaged building you know is all need he had cooperation from the owner on the insurance not as clean cut the timeframe but from our stand point in trying to help them to you know to be rebuild it as quickly as possible thats all we can do. Commissioner melgar. My request to staff there is looter chat the neighborhood about the visible corners the fast gentrifying neighborhood with worry and anxiety the Community Part of chatter is the transparency of information not only to the Property Owner by the communities i know theres been at least two town Hall Meetings i dont know, there is be represented all im request to have that dialogue with the folks in the community you know it is a worry about the tenant that you know are out of hair homes but also great anxiety the community about the loss of this building as an Affordable Housing option. Hi existence dreeshg while make sure to be at the future meetings thank you. Thank you. Thank you staff for the update. Next item. Any Public Comment on item 5. Morning im the city lead for rights based services we were one of the first organizations to support the tenants of the 22 street fire and currently have been at the Task Force Commission with the recommendations that are reviewed by the board of supervisors its true theyve state with the upcoming legislation wasnt well address some of the sailors to voluntarily comply i want to highlight and reiterate what is a warning lesson the 22 street fire the current thats a great question process that exists in dbi unite not fit a model that might fit; right . So it the kind of turn around and discretion can be used at the department and commission is something we can consider you have an argument for negligence that is you think ability violations for january 2015 a building that has numerous numerous outstanding violations that were not followed through to be abated when you have a landlord that has practiced negligence and continues to not properly secure the building with fires well see it again, i think a lot of things will be considered an Emergency Response from the commission i think one of the things i suggest to see one of the failures is you have permits that have been begin to the landlord in february 2015 that will expire soon those permits were given without plans; right . Awarded without plans any idea of what the scope of the work looks like we have fire cases of fire in some partial construction can happen some of the units may not be if i did for occupancy some that may a onesizefitsall is something to be reevaluated properly securing the building is a major issue not written in a local ordinance this thing you know the process we are holding each other accountable with the groups the existing departments i want to say that a lot of the chatter in the neighborhood actually from people that are noticing not doing casework so dbi has been acceptable to them the two tells you were not organized by the tenants or for the tenant in some ways responding to emergencies we welcome any pressure that is needed for compliance to come about but i want to state that another part that needs to be regarded im sorry any time is out if you can wrap up. The one thing that is missing the active support and the active documents by the Fire Department so there is a transparency system if exists at the dbi levels we have access to we part of Code Enforcement outreach program, however, the from time to time even though they have the froungsz provided to the wrafrdz their say a huge gap how we take into account the derivatives from the Fire Department and things that are the compliance i recommend you consider to ask for plans from the landlord and perhaps reevaluate the permit and welcome you to be in touch with the legal representatives of the task force. Thank you and before you go well give you a little bit more time your hoover on an important time supervisor wieners will be here to present on item 7 to talks about the fire gap and connecting to the things thank you for your comments next item, please. Thank you. Hi tom from the mecca Human Rights Committee it seems that one of the things that come out of all that the city needs to find a way to deal with uncorroborative landlords and seems like nothing in the current law that gives us the power to dole dole what those folks to give you the power to deal with those folks maybe add that into the legislation proposed im familiar with supervisor wiener and supervisor avalos legislations but maybe an emergency powerful to get to the City Attorneys Office Sooner a year a little bit over a year and the fact that the City Attorneys office doesnt get involved in a year it needs to get to the if the that the City Attorneys office a prosecute that is a needed power to prosecute the landlords that who are not doing what they should be doing lets face it details are take advantage of the landlord the situations in either way neither here nor there the lass less changes theyll return when they have to wait two or three years for an apartment it is the a. D. Advantage to delay it is the landlords advantage to delay and we have a great concern about the fact if the majority of places people dont return they relocate and not leave that place and come back to the unit i think that the fire legislation has a lot of good ideas one of the things im really particularly excited about the fact it sets up an action plan that requires the tenants to be notified as quickly as possible as to what they can come back and retrieve positions it is the hurting committee sometimes they have to wait a long time it get a Fire Department report to determine they can walk in and retrophy what they can retrieve to be able to get in there and get what we get theres a lot more work to do but the most important piece looking at how the city can get those incorroborative landlords to comply. Next speaker, please. Thank you. With the mission clove we have been hearing that from some of the sro tenants about the chatter and little confusion you know folks are interested in when their displaced have having had several fires the 80s and fire safety when they pass the sro ordinance they passed this spiritual ordinance they were able to make sure that sores are provide outreach and training to the tenants the tenants are soon tobacco aware of what to do in case of. Fire and one of the recommendations to the Fire Task Force was to provide like maybe the time you sign a lease or because you know if tailor familiarity of the tenants to make sure that things are in place and also, they know their emergency exits and know what to do in the case of a fire it is logic but not when it is pending but provide an education for the tenants and also, we really need for transparency and accountability from the Fire Department when conducting the investigations and sharing that information between agencies and with dbi as well i feel like dbi shares a lot of the information we can guess and track the constraint we dont get the same response from the Fire Department thank you. Thank you for your comments next item, please. She has a question no important Public Comment well close Public Comment. So if no more Public Comment is closed. And on to the next item. Public comment is closed. For that particular item. Item 6 discussion and possible action regarding proposed code amendments for the multiple dwelling units and control of values to have unnecessary waste of water and major disruptions of the units for remodeling occurs in an individual units of a larger building. Steve chief plumbing inspector i was asked to come to talk about the proposed plumbing code in regards to the section. Well, that active thank you for coming out so, i mean we had a chance to talk offline i would like you to i mean for me, the impact that will cause and after talking with you i felt we had a good discussion i do get the intent of this and i if someone in my buildings i want to they need help and many of the newer buildings their definition of shut offices talk about that he the other aspect what is the tint consequences to existing buildings and you know the cost to small Property Owners and so on and comments why you think this as good policy in reference to the water conservatism. Ill address many of those that i remember you asked to make it long and short one of the question is shut offices for new projects being built existing projects will have remodels we know that the next years to come a lot of the boom of the highrise buildings can stop owe the Building Improvements will start and offline a lot of the buildings shut down their Water Systems and shut down buildings and the supply to the units to the area that the work is done and dumb the water and basically redoing the cycle over and over the mens and womens side with leaks they shut down and leaks and a problem those issues happen so having to shut down the water is a waste of resources first of all, you have thousands and thousands of gallons with the highrise buildings on a smaller scale if youre looking at remodels for existing buildings we the way we describe it for major remodels at locations where the supply is coming usually from a main to multiple units and singlefamily home not effected at all on for military unit where multi dwelling units where you have supplies off of main goes out to the different units and branched i shut down the main your effecting everyone on the floor for a remodel if youre talking about respectfully and sink or toilet or bath tub those are isolated you shut down those and it shut down the fixture a remodel youre taking 24 to this location that didnt work for that kind of situation you have to should you the main supply and your piping over here and obligate whole area and testing when you turn back on as a developer youve done this theyre putting sheetrock up and so shut down the water and dump the water and if there recent last weeks do it over and over again, the will that before that shut down for the angle this is not the case it is really a bitten wasted of water i looked at our supplies the largest supplier that are off the branches one inch to the penthouse units the supply might not a two inch on the main but the branch think two locations will be 3 quarter maximum one inch ive not seen them higher than to one area so the shut offices will be one value for hot and one for cold i looked one it was 13 a value was the highest it would be higher the lowest one was 11 that part is not the cost but it dont say take care of it saves us precious water to anything else i can add. This value is inside of the condominium project it is inside your unit not the common area. You could have it in a common area as long as its assessable by the hoa where they have assessed to service for that if youre unit is over here you have access the hallway or in a lot of hotels are assess panels the hallways we can it can take that and shut off our for that area or make it need inside your unit to shut off the unit as long as is comes in into the units that depends on the developer or the owners what they want to do i have no position. It doesnt matter if we can shut it down. Can they put the shut offices on the first inside the building you can spend a lot more money for piping that defeats the purpose but you dont think i dont mind that you can turn it off weve seen the people are talking about doing a small little metering promising room some places are doing sub metering you have to have shut down values maybe a mechanical room it works just as well, thank you. Any other questions no further comments thank you. Comment. Public comment on item 6. Okay. Seeing none item 7 commissioner. I have a commissioner walker. I move we supported that. Im looking this is not an action item. Yes. It is an action item. Move to support can i get a second. Ill second. No objections. There is a motion and a second to support this item. Roll call vote complaint commissioner melgar commissioner clinch commissioner gilman commissioner konstin commissioner walker that motion carries unanimously thank you for that. Madam clerk i think well call item 7 and would it be if we could call 7 and 9 together that would be helpful thank you for your patience so. So if no objection well call 7 and 9 together. Agenda item discussion and possible action regarding the proposed ordinance for supervisor file amending the electrical and plumbing and administrative code to clarify and standard device the procedures for the multiple code recommending to buildings and property that requires Fire Department to report on Code Enforcement activities and condition to other requirements and regulations also item 9 discussion and possible action regarding proposed ordinance file amending did Building Code to authorize the director of department of building inspection to stop all work on a construction project with wherever there are violation codes on the project. Good afternoon, commissioners my name is jeff im here on behalf of supervisor wiener ill address the item 7 and my colleague will address item 9 but theyre all part of a aboard package through the citys Code Enforcement we introduced this to crack down on code violators we all want save building and a process that works across the Building Health and fire keyed and planning code to basically to achieve the same goal or making the building safer for neighborhoods and tenants theyre forced to live in low standard conditions one of the challenges to the code system lacks the communication across the departments we held a hearing on a year or longer all the departments came and talked about the different processes and in that we basically discovered each department addresses the Code Enforcement in buildings differently and basic out of that we wanted to focus on was through the departments are different their processes should be the same deadlines and procedure how to improve cooperations to Work Together and respond to the public and in terms of where Code Enforcement you know Code Violations are in other process we put together and took the Building Code specifically the Housing Stock procedures ross are the best models moving from issue an nov to referred to the City Attorney with the model we mapped that model on to the health and fire keys before you but youre aware those are basically now following the same procedures but just we really specifically i know the legislation before you basically includes the orientating the nov for the Administration Action to the City Attorney but also grant the City Attorneys office the authority to pursue the corrode violations without the departments action this grants the attorney in egregious case the department refers the kate case to them for instance, the City Attorneys office is referred a case by dbi and their pursuing that case and find out a Significant Health Code Violations this allows them to put this into a lawsuit action and i know there are obviously dbi and it is better he referring cases to the City Attorneys office so it is not it is basically about making sure that tool is available it also refers quarterly reporting from the departments on case that are referred for administrative hearing for problematic cases where they were how their abated or referring to the litigations and cases are not stuck additionally this is legislation before you in your packet was the most recent to the board in the interim between then and now working with the dbi to tweak the legislation i sent that to dbi to the commission yesterday and hopefully, youll read it ahead of time changes with dbi to kind of tweak it to make sure it gets out what were trying to do ill briefing go over those making sure the changes for the notice of violations from certified to regular mail we dont want Certified Mail we dont want the administrative hearing process for the nov issuance not have overly burdensome for dbi to issue the notice but meets the requirements to follow up open any action it wills clarifies and allows to the a cases are received to the administrative hearing is being made the discretion of the department can delay the administrative hearing be held for instance, for the permitted is pulled and the work is ongoing then the inspector can grant them more time and not refer them to the administrative hearing theyre on track we clarify that is in there and again, i mentioned the quarterly reporting requirement issue for every nova reporting requirement that is pretty voluminous we kangd changed it for every administrative hearing for the administrative hearing, talking about the problematic and one change were requiring all the Department Heads get together and create a model form so all departments are collecting the same data it is currently the same form were trying to collect the same data therefore their templates basically the bulk of the change and other highlights tweaks again, theyre not worth going over i thank dbi staff it is helpful in terms of achieving our goals and last week the Code Advisory Committee asked for approval i explained the amendments theyve not seen but they looked those amendments as well ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. And let my colleague talk about item at just a few commissioner melgar has a question. I just afternoon this is great thank you so much im wondering if there is anything you can have the legislation to standard disingenuous the forms from a public prospective anything go the legislation that addresses standard dizzying the Electronic Data Systems from the departments i see as you may know you watch us every month right like the other departments are had that im wondering if anything addressing that the legislation and ive had discussions with people who work on this issue with the Mayors Office how to address the electronic data issue to achieve that the first step has everyone the process to have the data to include that here we want to get the procedures and the issue is something we are interested in. Youre thinking about it. Definitely. Thank you. Why not if you want to youre talking about the same item; right . Sorry to interrupt you i want to read commissioner lees comments regarding item 7. Ill let them finish and ill be super brief on item 9 with the Supervisors Office the second ordinance authorizes not require the dbi inspector to have a stop order for projects with serious and multiple violations we had a case in glen park where typical had a series Building Permits and the project without Building Permits when dbi was informed a lot of issues back and forth in terms of the contractor ultimately the most recent permit was superintendant but the other ones were not the project shifted and it was a frustrating experience and the Neighbors Association and Park Association was cross and quite frankly so we we another project knowing theyre not likely to get permits to remove street trees part of project they did it anyways and preceded and continued continued with their project we hope that will not be revoked hopefully the dbi director didnt feel obligate the requirement to stop the permit by the dbi project to have the authority to send a strong message and strong deternlt we want the people to follow the rules not the dairy land complicated nature of the code that is about those 0 rare observances that are are egregious cases we agree are problematic thank you. So well work backwards i read the station for the enforcement we had conversation about i think we got a better understanding of what youre trying to do here i would just and maybe a hypothetical situation so lets say you have a building in my case im getting graffiti notices and extremely efficient to get a notification to step over the homeless i got 4 of them im complying by the time i get rid of the graffiti im charging other violation even though i comply another one the next two days how would if im a multiple violator will someone school my permits by the director because im not complying with dbi. Two aspects one that relates to other departments addressed the other what happens to the project the legislation provides the language that provides which is what happens today but basically other Department Directors that any request the dbi director to have the authority for the dbi director to do that this is the language in the ordnances so never mind in this case ultimately i hope that the dbi director, will use his or her discretion whether or not a project needs to be stopped and in the case of the gravel graffiti but to provide the language f to testify a serious violations or something to that effect but the supervisor is open to that point. Im finish i was hoping youll is that i dont know from the legislation is open to the amendments i think it is in the page 2 somewhere around 11 00 or 12 00 i belive im the same b. It says i dont know if you catch up out to me officially the Building Official may stop all work ever portions of the work depending on the severity so. Your, of course, the commission is welcome to make the recommends i think the supervisor open to considering them and whether or not hell accept those. The next steps will be to just forward them to him and see before they go back up to the board go back to land use. The requirement of the charter the Building Code heard by the commission at the hearing prior to an item schedule and land use that today is the charter required hearing if you want to make a recommendation for edits well be happy to consider those in advance. Im if i could get that language i mean, ill be supportive of it today. I suggest you make a motion to support the amendments. Commissioner walker please. Thank you for that bundle of legislation on this particular item is that not under the purview of the director of our department to already do this. The position of the City Attorneys office is that, yes it is the current the dbi director at the building hopeful has the authority today to stop everything on a project the message we receive from the department urging did the two cases ive explained requester somewhat different the intent of the legislation to clarify and be clear and so it is the position this really didnt create a new authority it clarifies the issue. It sort of it rats an tension and it makes it clear and understandable not only only the city but the public side. Thank you so is there anybody any more questions i have a million can i go back. Oh, forgive me frank lees comments do we inform of the nov or request a hearing what their give an nov if not id like to see a process that allows the residents to appeal or request a hearing on the onset. This types is into 7 correct. Well not that i know of and this legislation is based on dbi Current Practice so that is an issue that the Commission Wants to make a recommendation to dbi staff not changed the process and not brought up they need so you know. Yeah. Unfortunately commissioner lee is not here to defend it but basically, he you get the notification one of the things about we hear complaints about the notification just sits there until it is time to deal with that hes trying to get at the nov the outreach is done you have you can appeal and request and hearing right away and so on. Cant you do that already. I guess is there if i read the question did we to the residents of the nov to request and hearing when given an nov. If he could ill read the rest. The rest of it operationally is kind of i mean, i think we cant get past the rest of them ill recommend this is something i think to our point it is a bigger policy issue we have and something we wanted to amend your legislation will not object. The legislation will not prevent dbi from the practice to create an administrative outreach not permit dbi but the timeframes certain things must happen. Ill set this as a spate issue. Can we talk about the City Attorneys written. We have a situation which we have a lot of Mental Health issues and more of 0 fire and health issue we didnt write on nova in this particular case and the City Attorney choose to prosecute no movement would we be billed as a department for the nov work. So for the portion that effects dbi the portion that effects yes, but the rest noting no, not the majority of the case by case case is built around the health code but the department. We have a to pay their position and fire but im sure well be involved in more a point of order he wanted to clarify any, any more questions. An objection action. An action item. Open up for Public Comment; right . No more presentation. You have a comment . Dan dbi on a notice of violation currently if we have a notice of violation they want to appeal the notice of violation they can come to the staff and well investigate 9 violation the notice of violation has to be amended or if it was issued in error it would be. Is that on the notice of violation the instructions that you can appeal it. I dont think that is, i, look both that into the notice of violation theres a lot of language and report back to you. Okay. Great. Thank you. Public comment on item 7 and 9 okay. Seeing none is there a motion . Okay commissioner walker. I move to support items 7 and 9 do we need to do it separately or together. Commissioners. Dont we have an amendment. Yeah. Help me out folks all the academics can help so on if no objection id like to off of a friendly amendment on page 2 of the 100 had a i believe that is in item b and it reads enforcement of the Building Official an official may stop the work our portions the work depending on the severities are the language i want to add whats the language you want to add may request the Building Official to order all work or a. Portions of the work depending on the severity. Okay. And continue on the code of violations. The motion includes the amendments. I second. Its been moved and seconded on this item. Roll call vote. Commissioner president mccarthy commissioner melgar commissioner clinch commissioner gilman commissioner konstin commissioner walker that motion carries unanimously and thank you, supervisors staff and for working on that i know that is a long prosecutes but good work thank you very much. Back to item 8. Next item please is item 8. I want to acknowledge we have two commissioners that left us but we have quorum still. Item 8 discussion and possible action regarding a proposed ordinance board of supervisors file amending the green Building Code for certain new Building Construction with the development of Renewal Energy and updating the Green Building requirement for city weekly a date of january 1st, 2011, and other requirements and regulations good afternoon, commissioners again with commissioner Wilson Office sports legislation thank you for considering that was a considered and supported by the Committee Last week this is a simple ordinance todays Building Code does requires that most new construction designates 15 percent of the rooftop as solar ready the context it means free of obstacles and construction at some point other equipment can be installed billed off the solar requirement requiring the 15 percent is already solar asphalted solar in his context is solar panels for electrical generation or hot water heating that is a popper aspect in this era of uncontrolled climatic change we have to doing the best we can respectfully yours, the empower consumption and a significant aspect of the more sustainable city weve reached to the legislation to a broad array of parties with people that construct buildings and manage them and received support from those folks well be honored to have the commissions support as well the department of the environment has been working hard and we have the colleague here this is the phase one of a more broader better roof ordinance that will be expanded at some point to include other elements such a green roofs and stormwater issues and the idea for this to be a grab bag of pick and choose every project can choose to satisfy the requirement so in some cases solar make sense and in some cases solar didnt make sense but before you is the solar aspect thats what were considering today thank you. Okay so if no more presentation on that well go straight to Public Comment. Any Public Comment on this item. A any Public Comment . No presentation staff is here to answer questions. Commissions any questions and searing any pima motion on the item. Commissioner walker. Move to you approve. Second there is a motion and a second roll call vote on the item commissioner president mccarthy commissioner melgar commissioner gilman commissioner konstin commissioner walker okay. The that motion carries unanimously item 10 update on the annual cost of construction increase supply to the department of building inspection cost schedule. Good afternoon kirk dbi Technical Services im here to talk about the annual update to the cost schedule and give you a little bit of background currently San Francisco Building Code permits issuance fees states that fees were based on the construction value and that construction value as determined by the director the Building Department and in addition that the Building Department publish our schedule make that available to the public and that between the cost schedule and the actually costs whatever it greater that will be used to vault and determining the issuance fees and then the last item of the section it gets updated annually thats what were here this is our annual update as you recall last year there was a major reenforcement of the cost schedule and thats been going on to date only a few minor changes were made the first one changes include on page 2 under tenant improvements there is two added item 5 and 6 to addressing add the items for Energy Upgrades to building one for lighting and controls the other for lighting and controls at our Energy Management system two different kind of scales of work under the tenants improvements and to address at least those two page 29 theres an added section for Electrical Equipment primarily added so next year we plan on a bunch of items incorporated to have a place holder for those kinds of items coming up and temporarily move solar thermal and other item to that section and on page 29 under plumbing fixtures adrc the green fixtures with one and 50 gallons or less with the rate one and 50 or more is another rate currently the provision of the state architect from the state of california uses 20 city major u. S. Cost Construction Costs index in order to determine their disabled assess cost valuation threshold weve found out it is previous effective index to use as well the state architect published it on their website labor it was 2 percent that is what we added into the cost for this cost schedule by step up to the plate. 2 percent increase the overall Construction Costs. It goes up every year and the valuation fails both that the code requires us to do. An automatic 2 percent. Where the commission has asked to waive that underscores the construction to get going again and it is sometimes higher and sometimes lower trike trying to track the costs even our cost valuation is no way the actual Construction Costs we want to track it so as people are problems are the amounts there is a reason. Commissioner walker. How does that compare with other cities the state are with we consistent. Are we under two different systems. Right. I dont know about all the cities that is San Francisco as done that for a long other cities use i think there as schedule that is published by the International Code council and theyve adopted versions of that i think we were using Something Else we had to change to this; correct . We reformulated correct. Great. Its the same general system based on this. Great, thank you. Okay. Thank you for your presentation. Any Public Comment think item 10 seeing none, 11 directors report update on the dbi finances. Good afternoon, commissioners Deputy Director before you your february 2016 year to date Financial Report ill take a couple of minutes to go over the highlights were doing well, i remember in january we depressed in january but february weve increased a lot this is basically has to do with with a variety of things primarily the increase once again in permit valid over one Million Dollars and above an increase and if you look at page 2 here if you look at page 2 youll basically see your revenues are 13 million more than what it was the same time last year and using youll see the salutation is up 64 percent and almost all categories evaluation has changed and once again the main reason with for the increase in revenue has to do with with 3 primary revenues based on evaluations so Building Permit and plan and premium plan check if you look at page a series called the department of building inspection for 20152016 if you look at page three or four look at the first revenue that is calls Building Permits as you can see our budget is 119 weve collected 10. 8 and page 4 for as you can see the revenue for plan checking revenue budgeted at 20. 7 were at 26 million thats the increases for the revenue increase side as i stated before it is difficult to make projections not a real pattern in january it went down drastically look at the same reports on page one and two and see the revenue dropped and went up it depends on projects through the pipeline on the expenditure side our expenditures are roughly the same at the same time last year with 1. 2 percent increase weve expect that building to go up as we hire as more departments start to bill work orders and thats really a summary of where we are i want to give you a quick update on the budget no longer june one but moved up to may one we talked about the board possibly considering the dbi and a host of other departments with the true two year budget well continue with the way weve done with a two year budget so thats all i have ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. Whats the thing on the vote on two year. I did not get the vote so the Fire Department will not be two years budget and one or two departments were two year budget are not two year but the library and another one i can loop that. Commissioner walker. An some level it would be nice to plan that far ahead but the case from the workload in the department went down it changes the budget and may need to act so i think we should assume we need to do something more than that annually i guess the revenue is tied to the activity level of the big projects so we know were in a boom. Uhhuh. So you know gives us anymore flexibility i think. Thank you. All right. Item 11 b sulfate and local legislation. Good afternoon bill strong legislative and affairs ive circulated the update ill talk about a few of the items such as the commissioner avalos ordinance did pass that is the one calling for the inlaws that passed and september to the mayor for signature i dont know from the mayor has signed did he say out of the country traveling assuming he signs it when he returns were looking at an Effective Date in the middle of april the thirty days following his signature youve fully heard about the Code Enforcement item and those are the pleasure so ill refer to those ill say with respect to the soft Story Program we recently remind owners in all four tiers about the you mean deadlines were specifically after as commissioner president mccarthy mentioned at the beginning of the meeting of those in tier 3 the 5 hundred and 84 which we only had a thirty percent response to begin a motivate the other 4 hundred plus owners they need to take action and obtain a permit before the middle of september and doing paid 41 media the coming months take advantage the Mayors Office of safety is having a fair that dbi will participate in at brooks haul or the pacific uniform on 1906 San Francisco earthquake we the evidence will then show the awareness of seismic safety and motivate owners of the soft Story Buildings to act so that notice has gone out i think the only other ordinance supervisor tangs mandatory assess improvements orientals will be heard on march 23 we expect the committee to refer that to the full board in probably the four or five weeks when dbi is working closely with the supervisor and structuring it in such a way we think the firefighter Small Business owners will take the steps need to help to protect them from this flurry of drive by lawsuits one of the supervisors critical motivations in putting this forward but other than that ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you, bill. Item c update on major projects. Good afternoon Commission Tom huey director of department of building inspection this is dropped down minus 6 percent the revenue you know the Deputy Director, you know, of finance you know mention you know is coming in more money but all you can this up and down have control we may are more projects coming in next month but right now that money that less than last month any questions. Thank you director. Leveling d update on Code Enforcement. Good afternoon dan Deputy Director services Code Enforcement with the dbi Monthly Update for the bring to your attention 5 thousand plus claimed received three hundred plus complaint response be 24 to 72 hours was 200 plus the complaints of finishes notice of violation was 50 and complaints without notice of violation was one and 51 abated containment of in violation were 21 and second notice of violation referred to Code Enforcement was 9 the Housing Inspectors 5 hundred inspections performed and three hundred plus complaints and the complaint response within 48 hours to 72 hours containments of notice of violation issued one and 32 abated containments and notice of violation were three hundred and 3 number of cases sent to the directors was Orange County inspections three hundred and 8 for the Code Enforcements cases welcome back was 53 the number of order of abatement were neuron and the number of cases under advisement were 3 and abated were about 40 and Code Enforcement inspections performed one and 6 thank you. Any Public Comment on the directors report items 11 a through d. Okay seeing none, item 12 discussion on the tracking system. Good afternoon, commissioners director im here him henry from the department of technology and ma gill sends his regrets for not being able here he was with the weekly update on the Assessment Project for dbi heres the updates since i came before you last month the project has started, the work on the project started february 29th with a formal kickoff with the dbi staff on march 8 also the date of the first interview the garden team has conducted 25 combrufz with stakeholders we predominantly dbi theyve also had interviews with commissioner walker that choose to participate and commissioner president mccarthy is participating most of the chief Financial Officer the which have management all the interviews will continue this week and well be wrapping up next week sill still to be interviewed on the stakeholder list with the administrators is tomorrow and with the 21 tech the partners from the project and then gardener said the interviews have been going very well people are sharing their experiences with the project i do want to commend all those i reached out for giving me time on their calendars and been able to schedule those without a lot of urban due effort and in parallel gardener has a team of 5 folks working on the other the folks are conducting the interviews and the background there is folks reviewing the documents and contractors and change orders all of the written documents associated with the project that has been accumulated since 2011 their powerfully through the information and gathering details from that and all of this assessment phase is to conduct or continue for another three weeks which they will have gathered all the information and the analysis as to ask the questions and followup and then start the analysis phase basically pulling out with gardener calls the common theme from the document reviews and start formatting their recommendations with the cause and the recommended plan that will be in a draft form before finalized that concludes my presentation. Ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Commissioner walker please. Just for the record when will we have that next month or the analysis phase is scheduled to last 5 weeks and during i dont have the exact schedule but during the 5 weeks process we will have the draft set of themes and ultimately a draft report a few weeks into that next phase so timing wise that is he trending towards the end of april. Okay. That would be great. I want to say from my experience of the interview im xhovend by the conversation and the questions and the knowledge not just of the system but of our process that the Gardener Group has i felt walking out we will actually be able to find a path forward and feel more comfortable about that i appreciate youre welcome there is one item i want to touch on one of the Staff Members from gardener has seven years of direct hands on with the implementation and so she also one of the background activities meeting with Staff Members to go through how configured for dbi just to get that keeper look and not done the most fiscal way. One of the questioners was involved with your business reprocessing system we went through with so many people that created the system that we have so i felt confident they know so were not redoing that in this process. Yes. That was good to know. And thank you for rescheduling. Youre welcome. He totally apologize. Youre not the only one with scheduling conflicts. Commissioner gilman. Im sorry henry as a new commissioner, i have a quick question and one question could you clarify for me, the Planning Department and the dpw already have their systems through excel up and running. We call the dbi project but a joint project radio dbi and planning and x cell management together. With theyre data. And isnt the department of public works open that. Theyre using a product it is a company that excel is requiring over the past year it is an x sell product. But they will be. And sorry. I was going to say yes, we know that dpw they want to see dbi launch successfully and then they have in their minds to leverage the policeman and excel was leveraged for that the whot whole city in 2011 they bought citywide perpetual licenses. Thank you you answered my questions. If notice more presentation Public Comment. Any Public Comment on item 12. Yes. Im jerry the next time ill bring my lunch to the meeting. I have two concerns one is clarity around the scope of the work and specifically clarity around the deliverables it is highly recommended the next meeting that be presented so from the bic commission has any concerns about final product they can raise those concerns well before they see a draft of report that is common practice otherwise it is a moving start and second a specific concern that the Gardener Group address the adequacy of the documentation that has been provided by dbi and specifically is there adequate documentation to properly configure on connecticut sell a. Thank you, mr. Burke youve given me my too good questions and henry. Heroin department of technology in terms of the scope and the dleeshlz the rfp which listed the dleeshlz was provided to the commission i believe a couple of meetings ago and it is a Public Document and in addition, we now have a detailed contract between ti g gardener that details the deliverables and the timeline. Well certainly provide that. Send it to the commission and update us. Okay. Well, ill tell you what you can come up and ask that question. But then how would the public assess that document if it is a Public Document and go ahead. Lilly i said sally and Lilly Communications director i deal with the reports we can provide that, sir and talk after this meeting. It might be good to put it on the site as part of document as part of agenda. So the public can we can do that. All right. Good. One more question jerry thats it im going to get in so much trouble. I want to clarify pa was said that was a Public Document if you know that exists and you have the knowledge to request that that doesnt meet anyones definition of a Public Document. Item 13 review and approval of the minutes of august 2015. Move to approve is there a second. Ill second. Any Public Comment on this minutes. All in favor, say i. I. Opposed . Okay. The minutes are approves item 14 commissioners questions and matters 14 a at this time commissioners may ask the staff about various policies and procedures that are of interest this witness to the commission. Commissioner walker. Following up our discussion sros and the issue of the fire we wanted to set up a Side Committee maybe we could get some language from commissioner gilman that we can put on the next agenda to discuss the formation of the commission and vote on that. Sure maybe we can this can be discussed and explore the issues of performing a subcommittee with the art 41. Are we talking about 41. 41. Okay yes dually noted. And i think that is. Yeah. It needs to be looked and. Then did you have something about the fire no . The fire issue is the issues that came up about our process of notifying the public being involved communicating with adapted tenants, and i know that isnt necessarily our purview but good to talk about expediting replacement especially housing if housing is lost especially Affordable Housing is lost rentcontrolled unit i think one of the good points commissioner walker was that you know in a fire there is certain procedures for instance, we know go that the bucket is set we need a clear understanding of insurance issue with dialogue going on this is the i know this happened outside but some sort of a rule that you have to at least let the Property Owner know i cant do that im under investigation of a fire. Anything to secure the property is secure maybe we need to have a sheet that gets handed to an owner i i mean, we, talk about that. The security and so on right. And maybe timelines as to we have to revisit a fire damaged building on a this basis to go over the issues and revisiting the issues to stay in line this will be a big one. Just put it on the agenda. Id like the asbestos was in issue that delayed the process more we need to make sure we have all the facts commissioner. I wanted to amend what i said we have an sro subcommittee i think you are role is really to look at the fee schedule for rebuilding i want to caution if everybody in article 41 the subcommittee will be meeting for years but found the most troubling or we can i suggest we form a committee after a discussion to prioritize whatever so not have the discussion now. So well work on the language of just having a Commission Discussion how to prioritize. Thats specific to one part of it thats correct. Perfect. Item. Sorry one more thing commissioner lee comments in regards to the notification through the nov for the people given the information they can request a hearing immediately or next steps for them rather than waiting for them; is that correct and Something Like that. All right. And he can finetune that. Okay. Item 14 b future meetings at this time the commission can seat belt a meeting or determine the items and other future meetings with the other observing on april 20, 2016. Any Public Comment on item 14 ab . Seeing none, item 15 adjournment move to adjourn second. Second. All in favor, say i. I. 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