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government nor speaking against the war or for protesting against the crimes of the regime. to answer your question, well, of course the rejections of the appeal did not come as a surprise, not after this very long and tiresome trial that was held in moscow. and i did not expect them to behave any differently now that the trial finally reached its end. so, no surprises there. >> no surprises, and yet you're looking at a situation where your husband, who has survived poisoning attempts multiple times, and i know still suffers very seriously and grievously from those. you're now hearing he's going to russian penal colony, a 25-year sentence. evgenia, what happens now? >> the next step is the transfer. and this is a very dangerous period in the life of any prisoner, especially prisoners