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i have to show example. if i lose hope, well, my children would lose their future in independent country. then we would lose ukraine as a nation. it's not only about the territory. it's about ourselves, our identities. so we cannot lose hope. we have had different moments. some were very cruel. there were moments of challenge. i'm sure in the history of the united states, they also have many moments when the people had to fight for their independence. we remember the period of struggling when many people lost hope, or some people emigrated france. but some people raised the banner, the banner of independence. some people were skeptical on both sides of the ocean, in europe too. but people didn't give up.