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brutal. just to put a point on it for americans, they are also the most attractive group to join for foreign fighters, in part, because they have such low requirements. you have a lot of europeans and americans as well going on jihadi vacations in syria. the kern, and iraq, and the kern being, this is something u.s. intelligence officials have told me repeatedly, what happens when they come home? there's already been an attack in brussels, pinned on a veteran of that conflict. this is about a regional problem but also about a real threat to europe and the american homeland. >> while all that sounds strategically doable, chris, you spent a lot of time there, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2008. you helped as a part of seal team 8, as a contractor afterwards, you helped mosul and you have a specific point of view as to what started this, the iraqi generals who had a big big position before the americans came in and dissolved the whole army. >> absolutely, ashley. jim makes some very good points.