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there's ever reason to believe that working too long would be even harder on people in creative positions. there's also been a lot of research since henry ford. that was the early part of the 20th century and people have replicated that in other industries, including blue collar jobs and more recently people have looked at this topic within industries much closer to our own, like the gaming industry and, you know, you always get the same results and it matches my personal experience and the experience of a lot of people i've worked with. >> well, you say that this mindset, right, that something is just wrong across the board, especially in tech companies. the mindset can lead to ageism and sexism. expand on that a bit. >> what i've observed is a lot of people basically in their 20s are able to work these hours for a little bit of time and then later they burn out and realize they have to make room for other parts of their life. but when you're in an intense