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ground forces to be able to accomplish that mission, that's something that makes sense. that's very different than a large deployment of 10,000 or 100,000 regular u.s. ground troops or occupying force, as we've seen in iraq. if that were the case, that would be counterproductive to us achieving the mission of defeating isis, it would play into their rhetoric, saying it's a war between islam and the west and that is not good for anyone. >> you served in iraq. you fought there. has the u.s. learned lessons from that experience, looking forward? >> i wish the answer was yes wolf, but the answer's no, and this is my greatest concern. the reason for this is because, after iraq, the united states went ahead and did the very same thing in libya, overthrowing gadhafi. isis is growing in strength, has a stronghold in libya today, with plans to continue to

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