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try and pursue, anderson. >> you've had along career, art, tracking down fugitives here in the united states. how hard is it for somebody to cover their tracks or how easy is it? >> if you can -- every one of these criminal case, every fugitive case i've worked we try to get to the communication device whether a cell phone, computer, whatever they were using to communicate with support systems or to get resources. once we got a hold of that device, we could exploit it either track through tracking or monitoring their messaging and it would always come back to that particular devicdevice. so it's key in the investigations. >> i keep coming back to the fact this is a married couple and have the advantage maybe there is a larger network but certainly have the advantage of being in the same place and they don't need to communicate with each other. they can do that face-to-face. >> they can but when you look at like the stuff that's been seized, we saw several of the