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race for any other office. in your opponent is indicted, whether it's one time or multiple times, you go after them. donald trump, by and large, has been free from that process which makes the debate coming up more interesting. also this hurts him not just in georgia, but we learned from georgia how it can hurt him in other states. donald trump argued over and over again that the process is rigged, the elections are rigged, and enough republican voters believed donald trump, they didn't fill in mail-in ballots, didn't vote, didn't vote in the runoff, in the senate races, that's not going to affect georgia, that can affect my home state of north carolina, arizona. >> fascinating point. doug heye, clark cunningham, we have to leave the conversation there. appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. >> glad to be with you. we are going to take you live to maui where multiple