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>> yeah. my initial reaction was sort of centered on ramaswamy because of how much he dominated the attention after the debate, but after 24 hours of thinking about it i really think desantis may have come out as the winner. he made no mistakes. i think he advanced himself on a couple of big-time answers especially early on. his opening statement sort of indicting the biden economy, so i think desantis did himself some good. i think nikki haley did herself some good. i was glad to see mike pence turn in a first feisty performance, and i'm just want sure the schtick ramaswamy will play that well over time. i think it wore thin as the night wore on. >> is there anybody on the debate stage, nina, that would concern you as a democrat? >> all of them. >> i mean as most formidable as an opponent. >> the person who was not on the st stage, donald j. trump. the mug shot over $7 million