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binding on the states. but, as joan noted, it's not clear exactly which issues they're going to weigh in on. the other big question is, what role does the state have to enforce that section? there are some other cases, other questions they could potentially weigh in on, like did he engage in an insurrection. i expect they might try to stay away from that, try to be narrow, focus on the constitutional issues. whatever they say, they're the final word on interpreting the constitution. >> joan, you've been covering the supreme court for years. given the personalities, the politics involved, do you have a sense of what's going on behind the scenes of this decision? >> they came to the bench today for the first time in the new year and the first time since these cases had arrived. i was there in the courtroom. they handled, for some early minutes, a lot of routine visits, admissions to the bar at the supreme court. that's when they left the bench, took off those black robes and all sat around a conference table in a small room off the chambers of chief justice john