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cultural issues may not attend church services themselves and i wonder if that tracks with what you had been seeing and what that would mean politically. >> it is similar to what we were tracking and it is self identified evangelicals. have not seen a drop in attendance some of the evangelical saying they support trump. and politics does not become our religion. make sure you look higher as david said where the hope comes from it comes from the lord and not washington, d.c. also tell them to think bigger. hopefully people can keep focus where the focus needs to be and understand that politics is part of it but not all of it. >> going back to the recent poll, does it surprise you that the former president is doing so well among former voters