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specifically black families and the point that black families being together is a great thing for the black community. and you do have to acknowledge the empirical fact that before lyndon johnson s policies and the welfare state that was created in the united state. i m not talking about good, bad, or indifferent about black families were hold on. black marriage rates were significantly higher. well, what if america, that s a good thing that may have contributed to the maybe the decline in marriage rates, which by the way, is not unique to black families. that s happening actually across racial groups. but what about other things? i mean, what about redlining? do you think that that had an effect on the black family? what about mass incarceration? what about the war on drugs, which was pushed by a republican president, who s adviser said it was specifically to target black people. what about all of those things? look, if you want to talk about red lining and a lot of the other policies that were