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Aid before go to harrys. Com slash shave to claim your 7 Trial Vegas The Story Of Sin City to 9810 on cnn you are in the cnn newsroom, im jim sciutto in washington. All eyes on the Us Supreme Court where tomorrow the justices could back. It might look like likely theyre going to provide an answer on whether former President Donald Trump is eligible for colorados president ial so ballot and therefore for other states that have raised this issue, the constitutions 14th amendment says that americans who engage in insurrection are disqualified from holding future public office. The Colorado State Supreme Court ruled this applies to trump after his alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election, which then led to the january 6 attack on the capital. But the constitution does not spell out exactly how to force that banned, nor does it define what qualifies as insurrection, leaving the Us Supreme Court now to fill those gaps, colorado Secretary Of State Jenna Griswold joins us now. Good to have you on tonight. I couldnt think of a better night to have you on given what Supreme Court watchers believe will hear tomorrow, it doesnt reveal ahead of time which opinion to expect, but theres a lot of analysis that given Super Tuesday is just 48 hours away, this will be what they decide on what are you expecting . Well, thanks for having me on jim, its always great to join you. And i can tell you, i hope its the decision and youre right. A lot of folks think that it will be the colorado decision as to whether or not trump has disqualified himself i had hoped for this decision last week, the week before, because our ballots actually went out several weeks ago. And over 400,000 ballots have already been returned for the republican president ial primary. At the end of the day, coloradans, and americans deserve to know as they go into Super Tuesday Whether Trump is a qualified candidate or not. Let me ask you this. You of course, listen to the Oral Arguments last month where even the liberal justices seemed skeptical of the disqualification, make the case here why do Donald Trumps actions and alleged crimes . Why . Do they meet the standard . The 14th Amendment Standard for disqualification well, i think the colorado Supreme Court got it right to courts in this country, both in colorado, have looked at the question of Whether Trump engaged in insurrection they both determined that he did. And from my perspective, its clear as day what he did. He incited that violent mob to try to stop the peaceful transfer of president ial authority. And when it comes down to it, i do not believe that the president should be above the law or above the constitution. Thats what trump consistently argued. Section three of the 14th amendment has clear language. If someone swears to uphold the constitution and then engages in insurrection, theyre disqualified again, i think the colorado Supreme Court got it right. Oathbreaking insurrectionists should not appear on a states ballot. If that state determines to disqualify those candidates but just like you will see what the Supreme Court says hopefully tomorrow. How do you believe the swim court will decide on this question . I, think theres a lot of commentary about the Supreme Courts questions during oral argument. From my perspective, Section Three of the 14th amendment is clear and its intention in the constitution is a realization that insurrectionists in office can try to destroy democracy from within so i hope for a specific position colorado argued that oathbreaking insurrectionists should be able to be excluded from our ballot. But at the end of the day, jim, Whether Trump is disqualified, qualified, whether hes bound lets across the United States are not americans will be able to save our democracy at the ballot box in november. Let me ask you this because beyond the questions about whether this meets the standard what is an insurrection, et cetera . Was the question of states deciding on a National Election . And that even gets to what a justice such as elena kagan, that was the central question she asked if she pressed lawyers during Oral Arguments, whats your answer to that question well states all the time determine whether or not candidates are on or off the ballot, including a national races. Even in this president ial primary, there are candidates who have been determined disqualified and some states. And so theyre not on the ballot, but theyre on the ballot in other states. So thats exactly how it already works in the United States and its worked for over 100 years at the least with election administration. And earlier, you mentioned the question of, well, what is an insurrection i believe that the United States Supreme Court can clearly define what an insurrection is in this case, there was a fiveday trial going after that exact question. Evidence was presented. Witnesses were called from both sides, and then the colorado Supreme Court looked at that question again. So all these terms are able to be defined if the court chooses to go down the road under i guess, allowing states to do what we many of us believe is already within our authority executing the constitution, protecting our ballots and our democracy from Oath Breakers there have been public questions about partisanship on this Supreme Court, and i wonder, do you expect the Supreme Court as its currently composed, to answer this question without partisanship and fairly again, what i can say is the American People will be in the a great position to save democracy in november. This court has had several major issues to say the least. It has rolled back protections on Voting Rights, on womens rights and ultimately, well see this isnt a nation of laws and courts. I of course will follow whatever the Supreme Court decides but we have to dig into their decision when it comes down hopefully tomorrow to see exactly what path they go down and what authority is reserved to the states versus other actors like congress, will reach out to you after we have their decision Jenna Griswold, we appreciate you joining us tonight thank you well, the remaining president ial candidates are gearing up for a critical week with more than a dozen States Holding primaries on what we call Super Tuesday. Thats nikki haleys hedging on her promise now to support donald trump if he were to win the nomination while President Biden works to fight off concerns among some democrats, particularly after recent polling. Were going to take a deeper dive. 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New episode tonight at nine on cnn this weeks high stakes, high drama in the political world. On tuesday, voters could effectively delivered the final verdict on the Republican Campaign when a huge number of americans go to the polls for Super Tuesday, then on thursday jake, President Biden, hell deliver the state of the Union Address to make his case for why he should lead the country for the next four years despite seeing some bad polls recently here with us to break it down, our pair of political strategy strategists, democrat maria cardona, republican, Alice Stewart, good to have you both on so maria go to you first because this got a lot of concern about that New York Times poll over the weekend showed and biden, not just behind trump, but also week on things like enthusiasm among democratic voters and a decent percentage of democratic voters who wish there was theres another option does it worry you yes, it worries me. And yes, it should worry the campaign. I always say that the only way to win is if youre unopposed or if you run scared. So they should be concerned. But look, this poll had a lot of flaws in it, and i have to point out a couple. The first one is that it over represents republicans and conservatives the second one, which i think is huge, is that there i guarantee you, jim, there is zero chance that latinos are up for trump as opposed to biden doesnt the reason you so just has to be some right. I guarantee you there is zero chance that trump is beating biden with latinos. And i will tell you why, specifically the flaw in this poll. In order to pull correctly for latinos, you have to have at least 35 of the interviews done in spanish. This poll had 3 interviews and spanish completely skewed. But lets not fight the polls. Lets have this Campaign Fight for voters, and thats exactly what theyre going to do. And so moving forward, the message continues to be democracy, rights and freedoms. What this existential threat is if donald trump gets to the oval office, that will continue to be the contrast. And when every single democrat really starts to tune in and understand that that is the consequential choice. I believe biden will come out and thats the point. Tom suozzi, democratic congressman, made to me earlier to tell me though as a republican looking at these numbers and i know republican who is, who . Does not love trump as, as the option to lead america again, do you look at these numbers and say, well, republicans got the advantage. It does what good and i applaud my friend maria for acknowledging that this is not ideal, but we saw in the New York Times yesterday key democrats saying the level of freak out in the Democratic Party is at an alltime high and its not just a new york tom cnn poll that shows trump behind or ahead of biden by five points. Look at art cnn poll of polls, which is a culmination of 16 recent polls that still shows donald trump up to that, shows that this is not just a snapshot in time. This is a trend where donald trump is edging out joe biden granted. It is within the margin bearer, but i would rather be two points ahead than two points below. So let me ask your question because you got polls and then you have votes and weve had a series of votes. We had a special election in new york, three short time ago because she had to go back to the midterms in 2022 when theyre supposed to be a red wave, didnt happen. Other special elections where democrats have look stronger and i talked to a guy like tom suozzi that was of course George Santos, his district. So it had some problems in it, but that was plus eight for George Santos about 14 months ago and it was plus eight for a democrat here. Thats a 16point swing in that district. So when you look at and i know by the way again, with the proviso that some Number Crunchers say specials arent indicative of actual Cycle Elections do you think they are . Do you think what weve seen recently going all the way back to the midterms, tell you a different story with all respect to those Number Crunchers, how is it that they can put more faith in a poll of less than 1,000 people, then actual real votes of real americans voting for real hell people thats just insane and to again give an example of how off pulse can be this same poll was the one that was predicting the red wave in the midterm elections. A weekandahalf ago, the Quinnipiac Poll has biden up by five so again, polls, i think, especially this time around, its not that they dont mean anything, but they dont mean everything. And let me talk to a little bit about enthusiasm enthusiasm can really be measured by when people invest their own money in the party or in the campaign the Biden Campaign Just Announced a record haul for it. President ial candidate at this moment in time in their reelection, they have 132 million cash on hand 97 of their donors came from donors who were giving less than 200. Donald trump and the rnc are sucking wind when it comes to catch. Yeah. So when you look at enthusiasm, i say the real measure is a few. Have somebody whos going to give up their own hardearned Money Candidate exactly so thats why i think democrats feel good about where we are. But again, work hard. No question. Democrats still have to bring home the coalition all the advantage right now in terms of mobilization and energy and focus is on the republican side because those are the primary. But do you i mean, do you see Warning Signs for republicans . Those skewed Fundraising Figures . I mean, theres also data that shows republican donors dont love t

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