and his family still lives. she sees joining us by phone. what have you learned? >> reporter: don, can i tell you we've called out to his aunt nancy perlman. we've not yet heard from her, but we did talk to the vice chairman of the islamic center of orange county. now this is the center where adam gadhan actually made his conversion tois lanl. he told me that quite frankly he was surprised to learn that there were reports of his capture because he thought he was dead for the last two years. he said there have been so many conflicting reports as to whether or not adam gadhan has been captured, what has actually happened to him, and he said he was actually surprised to find out that these reports were out that he had been captured. but he did say that they welcome it. he talked to many of the people at the islamic center and within this community and he said people here actually welcome the news because the types of things that adam gadhan has been saying in the past few years and what