down, he was trying to be creative and lift the pedal up and it didn't react. he knew it wasn't the floor mat. he did state that. he was obviously listening to what we said, whether or not he put it in neutral, i don't know, he thought about shutting the car off and knowing that there were was no safe place to pull off, was smart. people aren't usually aware of their surroundings. he did all the right things other than using neutral. >> you try and get out and roll out but that's not practical when your car is at 90 miles an hour. >> i don't know if that's what i should do it. >> that's what you should do is put it in neutral? >> i wouldn't want to roll out of any car in traffic. >> so, tell me what the steps are. what would you do? >> okay. the first thing i would do if i were in that position, and i actually have spoken to many people since, i know that national highway traffic safety administration has talked to additional people that have had recall problems or problems with cars still accelerating or they