contaminate either planet by carrying the biology alongside so we don't mistake martian life or earth life or bray pathogen back to earth. >> larry: why doesn't the government treat it seriously? >> i think the government has. they've been interested for many years. there is all kinds. footage. we know you saw something. we're not sure what it was. joint army and navy air force publication. number 146 specifically instructs pilots and army aviators, if you see one of these things, don't talk about it. it is a breach of national security. the air force has been very interested. the memo says we have to look into these things. they're aerodynamically advance asked there is something here. they have been interested and i think today, still. >> larry: is that true? >> i want to speak up for