now, let's talk about the company that president obama is speaking at, industrial support, incorporated. they do metal stamping and metal braising and contract electrical assembly. this is important, because contract electrical assembly means they do it under contract for other companies elsewhere in the united states. so, if a company wants to manufacture some sort of electronic device and they need components for it, they don't make all the components themselves, they outsource it to other companies including companies like industrial support, incorporated, so we think of manufacturing outsourcing as being something that we send to other countries. well, in this case this is a company that's actually a recipient of -- of work from other companies that are manufacturing things. based in buffalo, new york, you can see that right there on lake ontario, right near niagara falls, and as i told you, a lot of the industrial damage in this country has been done around the midwest. interesting company, because it started with five employees. five employees.