put together, a device was developed to help bring the oil up and now we need the tankers there to take that oil up. those will be in place in the coming days and when they are, the capacity will be there to take in what we believe is all or nearly all of the oil. >> well, should the president though be coming on national tv and touting a number that's based on bp's estimates when just yesterday, for example, we learned again that the flow rate increased almost 50% on a daily basis than was previously reported? i mean in some ways is he relying on bp's best estimate? >> he is not. he is not relying on bp. these are the estimates of the scientists and technologists that the government is marshalling as to what is happening underneath the sea and how much oil can be removed and what it will take to do that. we have some confidence in that. we're certainly not relying on bp for that information. >> you are relying on that bp, this would be their best case