he darn near did. in my first experience, putting amtrak together, he wanted to put every train going across this country or coming bac through west virginia. the only thing he let us free on is northeast corridor. he said, are you sure you can't swing that train -- he was as tough and as fair a man as i've ever dealt with. >> i experienced a little bit of senator byrd's power because as chief of staff to the congresswoman from the district of columbia, our job was to try to keep federal buildings and federal employees in the district of columbia. one of our earliest fights was with senator byrd who decided to move the fingerprint lab to west virginia. and he won. he had the votes. he took the facility across the border and he never could recover. and many other federal agencies followed suit. the one thing i want to say, he not only joined the ku klux klan