provide is attorneys for people like mr. francis who can't afford them. and so you have all of these people being rushed through this system, the system is already overloaded and arizona is simply going to pump more people into that system, including more u.s. citizens. so we're going to see more of these cases emerging. i'm personally familiar with a couple dozen cases like this, but this is really just the tip of the iceberg. if you look at mr. francis, it took ten years for him to get back here sand tell his story. there are a lot of these cases out there and there are going to be a lot more to provide a due process system to people that are criminals. >> it's difficult to see where they're going, having been through it. having to know if basically one can't defend for himself, there is not any legal representation whatsoever that is given to you.