is a revolutionary time? >> oh, yeah. but it's economics. i see everything in terms of economic policies, and that's what drives everybody. that's what makes people so angry and upset. you think if there were no economic problems this would be going on? this is the end of keynesianism. it's been with us 70 years and it's failing. even the liberals know it's failing. it's sort of like revolutionary end of an age with the downfall of the soviet system. it finally just didn't work. you didn't have to fight anymore it didn't come from the leaders it came from the grassroots and that's what's happening right now. the grassroots knows that government fails. even today statistics say hardly anybody trusts the government anymore. and good reason. >> what about -- >> it doesn't function. it doesn't have the right system anymore. >> there are those who say, well, look, what about actually getting things done in washington? i mean, that compromise is essential in politics, that no matter what you need at some point to compromise with someone on the other side of the aisle or someone even within your own party to effect change. do you think that's true?