physical or verbal bullying, there's someone around. there's a witness. maybe an adult or somebody who can help. but if a kid is being bullied on the internet, in their bedroom, they're unprotected. they're alone. >> well, they truly are alone, anderson, and, of course, we know that the number one tool of the abuser is isolation. if they can isolate their victim, their power goes up so much. and one of the things about internet that we don't think about is one kid can take on ten identities and bombard another child, and the child thinks that it's everybody at school that's after them, when in fact it may just be one kid that's picking on them and taking on all these false identities on the internet. >> there's a lot of websites i think adults don't even know about, i just learned about this one, form spring, which a lot of kids tell me is a place a lot of kids get bullied because there's a lot of anonymous postings. there also just seems to be a level of cruelty and sort of lack of empathy that we're seeing with cyberbullying that's even worse in some cases than face to face. >> it is worse, and i tell you, i call them keyboard bullies because they are able to get anonymously on the internet, they don't have to look their victim in the face, so they