a way forward on the future of sbinet is expected shortly and will be fully briefed to congress when ready." fred burton is the vp of counterterrorism and security at stratfor. he's also the author of "ghost: confessions of a counterterrorism agent." he joins us from austin tonight. and joining us live from washington, california congresswoman democrat loretta sanchez, she's on the subcommittee on border security and as former chair of that committee has held countless hearings on this subject. welcome. congresswoman sanchez, you say that customs and border patrol were not even consulted before work on this virtual fence began. how is it possible that people on the ground with the most experience on the border were never asked what they needed to make this happen? >> absolutely, anderson. the first contract that was let is what we call project 28. the first 28 miles. it was supposed to be inoperational, sort of the pilot project to test the different sensors in the cameras and everything.