around the world, i think there's a certain amount of selectivity going on here. >> larry, let me just make one point of clarification. we, meaning the defense team, never suggested that the media reach out to any of the jurors. in fact, we have gone beyond our duty to make sure that the identity of the jurors was never told by us. now, obviously, your people are pretty good investigators and found out who this juror was. but we have made it abundantly clear that we have tried in every effort, even from blanking his name out and phone number, to not make his identity known. but we do appreciate -- >> larry: all right, dan. >> but we appreciate the fact -- >> larry: i guess we found him. >> i guess you did, larry. >> larry: can you tell us, dan in simple terms why is your client going to jail thursday? >> my client is going to jail because the jury -- >> let me just say, we still