so if i'm a gas guzzler or data hog, should i have to pay more? and if i do, will that stifle innovation? >> this is for the person who's in a garage -- the proverbial inventor, entrepreneur in a garage. >> and could we miss out on the next google or facebook? barry diller runs more than 50 internet companies and he's an adamant supporter of net neutrality. >> 20 years ago, you didn't hear the word entrepreneur very much. our endless use of this in the last 20 years came from essentially technology. and came from the internet. >> and it seems like you're saying, barry, the big media folks are pushing the inventors, the entrepreneurs of the internet into the dust. >> we've enjoyed something in this country that's a miracle, which is you press a button -- on your computer or whatever, and you publish to the world.