intellectual titans of that party. >> come on, james. >> the gulf is not that great. tax reform would be a great place to start. >> i would be for -- if taxes were progressive, i have no problem with simplicity, not at all. >> you can take the agenda and take the parameter that they're talking about, make it more progressive, eliminate a lot of deductions. the president of shell oil saying a lot of things, both sides of the aisle should agree with. >> you all, gentlemen, it may well be that what happens in washington is going to be dictated by what's .haing in the states. the real leadership 345i be what goes on in new jersey, california and illinois. i think we're going to hit -- if the crisis is coming in a bigger