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they could regulate the economy. they could regulate wages and hours of workers and regulate wall street. >> and safety and the environment and all of the other things that we've seen between world war ii and the new deal and the present moment? >> they're all against the backdrop of the supreme court allowing those kinds of things. it is really possible because of the vision that these four justices brought to the supreme court of the constitution. >> that's right. >> we are about to see this potentially be flipped on its head. we have a very conservative court right now. we have chief justice roberts. alito, scalia, thomas, maybe kennedy hanging out there as a pivot point with cases somewhat like the new deal cases on their way up there and what will happen when the health care legislation gets before the supreme court? >> we have seen some really similar moves recently in which the four conservative justices

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