that means giving in on things. that's a very difficult thing to do when you're talking about making deals with someone like bashir. but there have to be substantial sticks. there has to be a real punishment for not fulfilling the things -- you know, bashir said yesterday that he would support this sudan -- sudanese -- the south. he says a lot of things. he never sticks to them. we need to hold him to it. >> you're heading back to the region, george. is that right? >> tomorrow, yeah. >> what do you hope to accomplish? >> well, you know, we're going to be there. there's going to be a lot of news coverage there. we'll be there to -- to try and make sure that -- that we can keep the attention on it. this is a very important time. for the -- not just now. what's also important about this is that this doesn't just, you know, stop and everybody go home on the 9th. this is going to be an ongoing thing for months and years. so to make sure these people are