lieutenant. if it's not okay, how can this guy keep his command? >> well, and that's a great question, right. it's kind of a -- it's a hard place to be in. is it okay to ever use racial slurs or slurs of any kind? it's not appropriate, as the xo of a large nuclear aircraft carrier, we do better than that. we have a culture of excellence and we told each other -- hold each other accountable through debriefing and through constantly learning. that part i don't think is okay. me, personally, i'm not really offended by the chicks in the shower thing. but only because if you're deployed for months and months on end what people don't realize, there's not an endless source of water and you're constantly having to drive home the point of water conservation. maybe he got to the point where how do i get people's attention that we're running out of water. so, you know, i'm not condoning the tapes, please don't think that i am, but i understand part of where it came from. >> i want you to listen to another part, another snippet he