isn't a single study, and we've looked at all the science, that says there is any causal link between these vaccines and autism. i know you're saying -- >> that's not true. >> there isn't a study that disproves it. but there's no affirmative causal link there. and so don't you think it would make more sense to lack at other potential causative factors? >> you know, what you're saying is simply false. there's a study out of suny stoneybrook within the last six months that compared a group of children that got the entire round of hep-b vaccine and a group of children that kind and found autism was three times more likely in one group. a new study out of the university of pittsburgh that took primates and vaccinated a group of them and i didn't vaccinate the other and they're finding dramatic differences between the two sides. so to represent that somehow the science has been done is simply false. more importantly, the science that has been done is what we like to call tobacco science. you take a group of kids who all got vaccines but got a little less mercury and compare them to a group of kids who all got vaccines but a little more