they see their work and their service, you know, as they see their students becoming self-actualized and participating in the democratic society. so most certainly teachers are taking this in a very personal way. and i think that in terms of kind of this national conversation and the rhetoric that's going on, we aren't necessarily separating the issues from the teachers. instead, we are combining them in our conversations in a way that -- that points fingers and blames a lot of the problems on the teachers who in essence are functioning in a system that has been given to them. >> i want to bring in jessica, a college newspaper editor who led a team from her school paper on a road trip this week to cover all this. they went to madison, got in the car, went to madison, took the cameras. we know jessica because she was a former cnn intern, as well.