entirely in view of the lack of support they receive from the people in their leaders, from the people in their community who should be the leaders. before i asked the witnesses to say a few words, i want to ask the congressmen if there's anything they want to add. >> the only thing i'd say is that this is a follow-up to a hearing held four years ago in southern california when then jane harman then congresswoman and chairman of a subcommittee had -- held a hearing on the radicalization of the prison population where we learned of the facts of radicalization and of plots at least a single plot in that case that was located in southern california. frankly, we should have had these hearings before. for four years we haven't had anything like this. this is necessary to get facts out on the table and to hear from members of the community as to what they go through when they want to raise the voice of moderation in the muslim