line of fire. >> absolutely. >> to say there will be this no-fly zone to protect civilians, doesn't that necessarily mean also to take moammar gadhafi out? >> this is what many in london are arguing. . maen be able to say it publicly just yet but it's certainly the ambition. two caveats. first of all, regime change may not no better fors ive yans. where institutions are missing, civil society is hollowed out can be incredibly messy. secondly, what is the means by which we expect gadhafi to go? is regime crumbling, people peeling away with mass defections in tripoli? we haven't seen any. what therefore is the means, the strategy by which we achieve this end state? there isn't one. >> you wrote in an article, you said assistance to rebels is a feasible and effective option. we've been talking about rebels and opposition but we don't know the makeup, who the opposition is and what kind of force they
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